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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
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"The source underscored the unreliability of metadata, most often from phone and computer communications intercepts. These sources of information, identified by so-called selectors such as a phone number or email address, are the primary tools used by the military to find, fix, and finish its targets."

[link to reason.com (secure)]

Why is this important? BECAUSE THE NSA'S PRISM SPYING SYSTEM COLLECTS METADATA!

We were assured this data could not be used to identify individuals.

THEN HOW THE FUCK CAN IT BE USED TO TARGET TERRORISTS FOR ASSASSINATION!?

Your government collects and collates metadata on each of you, even those of you outside America. It can use this information to target you for a drone strike if they want.

This isn't worth worrying about?!
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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
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Snowden is a traitor and a fag who cares what he says anymore?
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no wonder 90% of drone victims are collateral damage, metadata is un-reliable.
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what in the hell... Just Monday I saw what looked to be a drone flying over my neighborhood. Similar to this: [link to www.constitutioncampaign.org] I figured I was most likely mistaken and it was one of those guppy things, but it freaked me out as I had never seen either in person before.
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no wonder 90% of drone victims are collateral damage, metadata is un-reliable.
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Yup. That's part of the story. They're using imprecise data to lock targets, and they're doing this knowingly. All these TV shows and movies that portray these as precise strikes done from CIA HQ, with live video feeds...nonsense.
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what in the hell... Just Monday I saw what looked to be a drone flying over my neighborhood. Similar to this: [link to www.constitutioncampaign.org] I figured I was most likely mistaken and it was one of those guppy things, but it freaked me out as I had never seen either in person before.
uhoh
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The veil is being lifted, finally. They're tracking everything, storing everything, and can use it to target you.

Just think: local cops are increasingly using drones.
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You are helping convince me that modern technology is just a liability

Tune out, turn off and drop out = no Metadata
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You are helping convince me that modern technology is just a liability

Tune out, turn off and drop out = no Metadata
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I have a $10 topup phone and almost never use it. I virtually never use social media.

The danger isn't so much broadcasting "extreme" views, like libertarianism. It's giving them a record of your daily life, an account of your plans and hopes, a record of where you go.
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You are helping convince me that modern technology is just a liability

Tune out, turn off and drop out = no Metadata
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I have a $10 topup phone and almost never use it. I virtually never use social media.

The danger isn't so much broadcasting "extreme" views, like libertarianism. It's giving them a record of your daily life, an account of your plans and hopes, a record of where you go.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Exactly

Every move you make in Metadata is helping them mind map you
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I posted this in another thread yesterday, but it applies here too. Snowden Tweeted this article a few days ago.

It may be a "dirtbox".

Dirtbox - Devices on Planes Used by Government to Target Cellphones

"They’re heeeeere. Look overhead. That plane circling slowly above you is collecting information about you. And about just about everyone else.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the Justice Department and its various component agencies (including the U.S. Marshal’s Service and the FBI) are using a technology called “Dirtbox” to collect information from the users of at least thousands and possibly millions of cell phone users."

[link to www.securitycurrent.com]
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“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca

You can lead the Democrats to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
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I posted this in another thread yesterday, but it applies here too. Snowden Tweeted this article a few days ago.

It may be a "dirtbox".

Dirtbox - Devices on Planes Used by Government to Target Cellphones

"They’re heeeeere. Look overhead. That plane circling slowly above you is collecting information about you. And about just about everyone else.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the Justice Department and its various component agencies (including the U.S. Marshal’s Service and the FBI) are using a technology called “Dirtbox” to collect information from the users of at least thousands and possibly millions of cell phone users."

[link to www.securitycurrent.com]
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Thanks for posting.
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You are helping convince me that modern technology is just a liability

Tune out, turn off and drop out = no Metadata
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I agree! Turning them OFF completely fucks their plan of domination via digital means. They can't brainwash anyone if no-ones watching or listening to their BS.

That would mean going off (their) line completely though....
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You are helping convince me that modern technology is just a liability

Tune out, turn off and drop out = no Metadata
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3657477


I agree! Turning them OFF completely fucks their plan of domination via digital means. They can't brainwash anyone if no-ones watching or listening to their BS.

That would mean going off (their) line completely though....
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Going off totally isn't desirable. The internet is the best way to educate people, for one. It's also been a huge economic boon for the world.

The trick is locking down as much as you're able and not putting your life out there.
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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Snowden is a traitor and a fag who cares what he says anymore?
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The thread title is incorrect. The leak is from another 'Snowden', or as you would say, another traitor and fag. Someone who was involved in the drone program and is now leaking info about its inner workings.
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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Snowden is a traitor and a fag who cares what he says anymore?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42366748


The thread title is incorrect. The leak is from another 'Snowden', or as you would say, another traitor and fag. Someone who was involved in the drone program and is now leaking info about its inner workings.
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The title is entirely correct. Reread it.
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Things just keep getting better and better for us freedom loving American citizens don't it??







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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
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Snowden is a traitor and a fag who cares what he says anymore?
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Before long we aren't going to be free in America unless we are living in the wilderness with no electronics under ground and only venture out covered in cammo colored mylar suits.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


All this death and destruction is brought to you by the Nobel Clown.....I thought this dickhead said he would end wars?! Guess not....nobel clown
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
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Before long we aren't going to be free in America unless we are living in the wilderness with no electronics under ground and only venture out covered in cammo colored mylar suits.
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That freedom doesn't exist anymore. If you have kids, for instance, the Feds can either take them from you or force you back onto the grid in the interest of the proper raising of the child.
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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
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I am a traitor and a fag who cares what I says anymore?
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Fixed it for ya!
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
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The White House and Pentagon boast that the targeting killing program is precise and that civilian deaths are minimal. However, documents detailing a special operations campaign in northeastern Afghanistan, Operation Haymaker, show that between January 2012 and February 2013, U.S. special operations airstrikes killed more than 200 people. Of those, only 35 were the intended targets. During one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. In Yemen and Somalia, where the U.S. has far more limited intelligence capabilities to confirm the people killed are the intended targets, the equivalent ratios may well be much worse.


Absolutely Unconscionable.
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Before long we aren't going to be free in America unless we are living in the wilderness with no electronics under ground and only venture out covered in cammo colored mylar suits.
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That freedom doesn't exist anymore. If you have kids, for instance, the Feds can either take them from you or force you back onto the grid in the interest of the proper raising of the child.
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Just ask the amish,they are harrassed by FBI,FDA etc etc,self sufficiency is not appreciated
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Edward Snowden = 13 Characters / HOAX and US Government BOLLOX.

From Barack Obama’s date of Birth on 4.8.1961 to Edward Snowden’s reported birth on 21.6.1983 INCLUSIVE is: 7992 days

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

7992 = 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666 + 666

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"We have another Edward Snowden on our hands, and this one has had enough of the way America operates its system of killing people with drones. The source has come forward with a new load of classified information that highlights how risky drone strikes actually are and makes it clear that American officials know full well that they are killing hundreds of people that aren't their actual targets.

Jeremy Scahill and the journalists at The Intercept have been the recipient of all this data from the anonymous person they're referring to as their "source." In a series of stories titled "The Drone Papers," The Intercept describes the massive bureaucracy, technical flaws, and inner workings of America's deadly drone strikes.

The series of stories is huge and I recommend busy folks read at least the first section, "The Assassination Complex," which does an excellent job summarizing all the issues with the program. "

More at link: [link to reason.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Snowden is a traitor and a fag who cares what he says anymore?
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Worse than certain others who remain in control of everything?





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