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Op,

Did they disappear or die off?

If they disappeared, where the heck did they go?

Maybe another underground river/ocean?
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by itself, this would probably just be another el nino effect

but when you include all the other death and strangeness in the pacific ocean, it must be fukushima

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it's a big ocean, they just died and sank to the bottom
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Hmmm.. I wonder why.. [insert Fukushima here].
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Source?

"To date, FDA has no evidence that radionuclides from the Fukushima incident are present in the U.S. food supply at levels that would pose a public health concern. This is true for both FDA-regulated food products imported from Japan and U.S. domestic food products, including seafood caught off the coast of the United States. Consequently, FDA is not advising consumers to alter their consumption of specific foods imported from Japan or domestically produced foods, including seafood. FDA continues to closely monitor the situation at and around the Fukushima Dai-ichi facility, as it has since the start of the incident and will coordinate with other Federal and state agencies as necessary, standing ready to take action if needed, to ensure the safety of food in the U.S. marketplace."

[link to www.fda.gov]
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We all know that the radiation has reached the west coast.
Can't enter your link even if I add the extra 'L' in the end, but are you sure the research are up to date?
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I didn't know, source? chuckle
Link works fine for me, it's Food and Drug Administration's research, not mine.
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Go check the chiOknees fishing fleets for the fish ...
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Golly Gee Willikers, what on earth could possibly be causing that?

It almost sounds like some kind of nuclear radiation issue, but surely that isn't the reason.

sheep
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Well, I am not specificly linking the two in this thread---merely pointing out how widespread and devastating to all Pac lifeforms whatever is causing it--as Pac rim governments adamantly refuse to investigate--which is in itself---mysterious

I would point out this fact that is being missed.

Many gov scientists are reporting huge outbreaks of domoic acid--red tides.

The same domoic acid outbreaks that are so devastatingly deadly across all ocean biota, causing severe neurologic trauma, evidenced in several differnt mammalian species of ocean life

Is also deadly to humans.

So if it is so rampantly found up and down the Pac Coast--why have they not mandated closure of fishing until this abates??????


HMMMMMMMMMMM


can't have it both ways guys.
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What causes these "red tides"?

Not sure what is going on and interesting it isn't being reported on, but one thing for sure, there are going to be a bunch of hungry starving bear this winter.
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Headline: “Millions of salmon mysteriously just disappear” off West Coast — Expert: “Literally within 2 days it disappeared, it just crashed… I have never ever seen, nor can I explain” that — “One of the worst seasons ever” — “Disturbing… Serious trouble… Very dramatic”



Late sockeye numbers ‘disturbingly low,’ monitoring group says

Pre-run estimate of 1.24 million dropped to 200,000 for entire Fraser River run


November 3, 2015

From the link:

"The late South Thompson sockeye run has seen far fewer fish than expected, but the federal fisheries department says it’s still very preliminary with the final numbers not known until late December or January.

“In terms of the sockeye return, it’s much more disappointing than people were hoping to see this year,” said Greg Taylor, senior fisheries adviser for the Watershed Watch Salmon Society, a Vancouver-based non-profit organization that monitors wild salmon.

“They arrive in the spawning grounds in October, and the numbers they’re seeing are disturbingly low.”

Taylor noted that the Pacific Salmon Commission’s (PSC) pre-run estimate of 1.24 million late-run salmon was dropped to 200,000 for the entire Fraser River run, which includes the South Thompson, the Little Shuswap, Shuswap Lake and Adams River.

“It’s a very dramatic reduction.”


The update said, for example, that a total of 2,193 sockeye were counted at the Weaver Creek Channel on Oct. 28 and that no live or dead sockeye were observed Oct. 27 on the Bridge River in the mid-Fraser.

DFO spokeswoman Lara Sloan said that the department’s area director for the B.C. interior cannot be interviewed about the situation until the new federal government fisheries minister is sworn in and gives the go-ahead.

But she also said the preliminary numbers don’t tell the whole story. “Every year we release final escapement numbers, usually in December or January.”


“What’s disturbing is it’s a harbinger of the future, those kinds of summers.”


He said that the early summer component of Shuswap sockeye also returned in relatively poor numbers.

Taylor noted that this is the second year in a row that both the early summer and late summer components of Shuswap sockeye returned at levels well below pre-season expectations.

“They join many other Thompson salmon stocks, including coho, chinook, and steelhead, that have struggled in recent years.”

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Millions of B.C. salmon mysteriously ‘just disappear’ in troubling year


VANCOUVER — The Globe and Mail

Published Tuesday, Nov. 03, 2015 9:35PM EST

Last updated Tuesday, Nov. 03, 2015 9:38PM EST

Although spawning salmon are still returning to British Columbia’s rivers – including some, surprisingly, to urban streams – early returns indicate another troubling year, despite some bright spots.

“It really is a mixed bag this year,” said Brian Riddell, president and CEO of the Pacific Salmon Foundation. “How the heck can we sum it up? I’d say it’s the good, the bad and the mysterious.”

There were good sockeye salmon returns to the Great Central Lake system on Vancouver Island and to the Nass River on the North Coast, he said.

But contrasting that were very poor returns on the Fraser River, where only about two million sockeye returned, far short of the more than six million predicted in preseason forecasts. Even more dramatic was the collapse of the pink salmon on the Fraser, with only about five million fish showing up when more than 14 million had been forecast.

The federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans declined to provide a spokesperson to talk about the salmon runs, saying it is too early to have firm numbers.

But Dr. Riddell said it is possible at this point to paint a broad picture, and the indication is that some stocks are in serious trouble.

One mystery, he said, is what happened to all those pink salmon that were supposed to return to the Fraser River.

Dr. Riddell said test fisheries in the Georgia Strait in the summer showed a strong run of pink salmon coming in, but then, in what should have been the middle of the run, the fish just stopped arriving.

“If we are not going to go the way of Washington, Oregon and California [where salmon stocks have been decimated], then we need to adopt precautionary management. We need to implement the Cohen Commission recommendations and we need more funding for DFO,” he said. “If we don’t do those things, we are risking our salmon.”

In 2012, then-B.C. Supreme Court justice Bruce Cohen completed a $35-million inquiry into the collapse of sockeye stocks in the Fraser River. His report’s recommendations were never implemented by the federal government.


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FUKISHIMA

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TEPCO assure us that it has nothing to do with them.
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Golly Gee Willikers, what on earth could possibly be causing that?

It almost sounds like some kind of nuclear radiation issue, but surely that isn't the reason.

sheep
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Well, I am not specificly linking the two in this thread---merely pointing out how widespread and devastating to all Pac lifeforms whatever is causing it--as Pac rim governments adamantly refuse to investigate--which is in itself---mysterious

I would point out this fact that is being missed.

Many gov scientists are reporting huge outbreaks of domoic acid--red tides.

The same domoic acid outbreaks that are so devastatingly deadly across all ocean biota, causing severe neurologic trauma, evidenced in several differnt mammalian species of ocean life

Is also deadly to humans.

So if it is so rampantly found up and down the Pac Coast--why have they not mandated closure of fishing until this abates??????


HMMMMMMMMMMM


can't have it both ways guys.
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What causes these "red tides"?

Not sure what is going on and interesting it isn't being reported on, but one thing for sure, there are going to be a bunch of hungry starving bear this winter.
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Red tides are caused by algae...or communists
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El-Nino had that before.
Fuka-nuke-you, would be my guess.
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Here!

California lovers (and fishers) of the delicious and popular Dungeness crab may have to wait for their favorite delicacy. Wildlife and fishery officials are concerned the shellfish are toxic thanks to an unprecedented algae bloom in the Pacific Ocean.

Read more at [link to www.inquisitr.com]
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Golly Gee Willikers, what on earth could possibly be causing that?

It almost sounds like some kind of nuclear radiation issue, but surely that isn't the reason.

sheep
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


Well, I am not specificly linking the two in this thread---merely pointing out how widespread and devastating to all Pac lifeforms whatever is causing it--as Pac rim governments adamantly refuse to investigate--which is in itself---mysterious

I would point out this fact that is being missed.

Many gov scientists are reporting huge outbreaks of domoic acid--red tides.

The same domoic acid outbreaks that are so devastatingly deadly across all ocean biota, causing severe neurologic trauma, evidenced in several differnt mammalian species of ocean life

Is also deadly to humans.

So if it is so rampantly found up and down the Pac Coast--why have they not mandated closure of fishing until this abates??????


HMMMMMMMMMMM


can't have it both ways guys.
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What causes these "red tides"?

Not sure what is going on and interesting it isn't being reported on, but one thing for sure, there are going to be a bunch of hungry starving bear this winter.
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Red tides are caused by algae...or communists
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And Bama fans. Oh, and you forgot women. I'm especially surprised you forgot women.
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the creation is falling…

yt: Prof. John Sanford on Genomic Entropy


Geneticists:
Dr. Crow: we are inferior to caveman.
Dr. Knodrashov: no human geneticist doubts man is degenerating.
Dr. Lynch Even assuming a lower mutation rate, we are degenerating at 1%-5% per generation.
Implies a young Creation and as with DNA complexity, theory of evolution is unlikely.

Average cell in 15 yr old - up to 6,000 mutations per cell. (all your cells are different)
Skin cell in 60 yr old - up to 40,000 mutations
Mutations primary cause of aging and death.
“...little potential for substantially increasing the upper limit of human life span.” (upper limit: 120 yrs)
--Michael Lynch (Population Geneticist)
50% reduction in sperm count in men.

Around 100 new mutations per generation.

Dr. Francis Collins, head of Human Genome Project, converted to Christ partly due to the data he found working in genetics.&#65279;


“And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;”
Heb 1:10-11

“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”
Romans 8:22
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The damage from Fukushima is reaching a trajectory that the Pacific ocean will NEVER recover from. Whatever radiated fish are left will be eaten by humans at the top of the food chain. The DNA modification and mutations have already begun...

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I'm betting Fuki but I've also scene what the local BC natives are doing to the populations.Now that they can sell a portion of there catch man are they selling.I know a guy who parked his motorhome at the river and did nothing but catch fish and smoke crack.His dealer would deliver the drugs and pick up the fish.I know its only one guy but I know quite a few and they make a pile of money selling fish.Its definitely having a effect on the next runs
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And so it continues to worsen.....
More small doom stories everyday.
As we accelerate towards???
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We have ring side seats to a mass extinction event, in real time. Global ecological collapse is beginning to unfold.
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