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"Speed" /Methamphetamine may PROTECT THE BRAIN against stroke damage

 
Billy Whizz
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"Speed" /Methamphetamine may PROTECT THE BRAIN against stroke damage
But don`t speedfreaks go jumping too soon as it`s major benefit can be found AFTER a stroke...damn...



Methamphetamine may protect the brain after a stroke, according to new research in rats and gerbils.

The illicit street drug – also known as speed – helped reduce brain damage when used up to 16 hours after stroke, potentially widening the window of opportunity for drug intervention.

Researchers induced strokes in gerbils, causing them to become twice as active and agitated as normal gerbils. But when the animals were given a low dose of methamphetamine up to 16 hours after the event, the animals became calmer. Dissection later showed that the neurons of the gerbils given methamphetamine were as intact as in animals that had not suffered stroke.

“Methamphetamine is a drug that has been shown to exacerbate stroke damage when administered before a stroke, but we have seen roughly 80% to 90% protection of neurons when administered after a stroke,” says Dave Poulsen, who led the research at the University of Montana in the US.

[link to www.newscientist.com]
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SPEED MAKES YOU STUPID.



That is all.
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.
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OH! Don't forget how GREAT it is for...
You're TEETH!!!!!!!!
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10/13/2006 10:37 AM
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OH! Don't forget how GREAT it is for...
You're TEETH!!!!!!!!
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Yeah! Dont eat any rock hard cookies any time soon!
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10/13/2006 10:39 AM
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But it sure will make a horndog out of anyone....

speed plus sex equals WOW!
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.
 Quoting: Soothsayer

Hey smartass I smoke weed EVERY day.

I do SHrooms Twice a year.

It's about chosing your drugs wisely.
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OH! Don't forget how GREAT it is for...
You're TEETH!!!!!!!!



Yeah! Dont eat any rock hard cookies any time soon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14308



true dat.


I've got the root canals to prove it.
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Hey smartass I smoke weed EVERY day.

I do SHrooms Twice a year.

It's about chosing your drugs wisely.
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How many times have you used speed?

I am guessing probably as much as people who say "weed makes you stupid" smoke weed.
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Hey smartass I smoke weed EVERY day.

I do SHrooms Twice a year.

It's about chosing your drugs wisely.


How many times have you used speed?

I am guessing probably as much as people who say "weed makes you stupid" smoke weed.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



Too many times to count.

But alas those days are behind me.


fuckhead.
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Too many times to count.

But alas those days are behind me.

fuckhead.
 Quoting: vicious


Perhaps the speed did not make you stupid, but rather you were born and/or raised that way.
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Too many times to count.

But alas those days are behind me.

fuckhead.


Perhaps the speed did not make you stupid, but rather you were born and/or raised that way.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



you're obviously a fucking idiot who can't admit he's misdjudged the situation.

Shame that.

Must be lonely....
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.
 Quoting: Soothsayer




Eh ?
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.

Eh ?
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I have had numerous experiences with anti-drug crusaders on this forum, most notably 4Q who stalked me for six months on here because I bested him in a debate about methamphetamine.
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.

Eh ?


I have had numerous experiences with anti-drug crusaders on this forum, most notably 4Q who stalked me for six months on here because I bested him in a debate about methamphetamine.
 Quoting: Soothsayer




But the original post points to nothing of illegal drug bashing...
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.

Eh ?


I have had numerous experiences with anti-drug crusaders on this forum, most notably 4Q who stalked me for six months on here because I bested him in a debate about methamphetamine.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



What does that have to do with insulting me ?
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What does that have to do with insulting me ?
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I believe you started the insults by calling me a fuckhead.

I understand that you are not a drug warrior, but just a jackass who makes ignorant statements....like when you tried to correct me in another thread about a movie title even when you were wrong.

I apologize for the mistake.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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What does that have to do with insulting me ?


I believe you started the insults by calling me a fuckhead.

I understand that you are not a drug warrior, but just a jackass who makes ignorant statements....like when you tried to correct me in another thread about a movie title even when you were wrong.

I apologize for the mistake.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



The insults began with you stating that I was born and raised dumb....

Now I'm a jackass....

Splendid.


I give up...you're just too thick.
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The insults began with you stating that I was born and raised dumb....

Now I'm a jackass....

Splendid.

I give up...you're just too thick.
 Quoting: vicious


Everyone can quite plainly see that I said you were born and raised dumb AFTER you called me a fuckhead, but apparently the most obvious things escape your notice.

Are you retarded?

I would bet money that you were just as stupid before you did any drugs whatsoever.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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The insults began with you stating that I was born and raised dumb....

Now I'm a jackass....

Splendid.

I give up...you're just too thick.


Everyone can quite plainly see that I said you were born and raised dumb AFTER you called me a fuckhead, but apparently the most obvious things escape your notice.

Are you retarded?

I would bet money that you were just as stupid before you did any drugs whatsoever.
 Quoting: Soothsayer




Can this be accounted for by drug damage ?
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Our bodies are nothing more than mixtures of chemicals of all kinds, making them actual drug factories.

The major rich people in the world have been doing drugs for many hundreds of years, for recreational use. That includes Kings and Queens, their friends, etc. How many of these types have ever been arrested or jailed for such things? How many have you ever heard of dying from Cancer?

All this "drug war" affects royals verses low income people? People need to grow-up and be responisible to themselves. Should not fatty foods be outlawed since they kill millions more than all the drugs in the entire world, legal and illegal. So we play these defeating games to only ruin families.
Oh how dumb we have become since allowing the Nazies to come in after WW-II pointing at Commies and a plant that Popular Science Magazine had said in 1922 could be used to make cheap fuel and over 20,000 other consumer products. Wake-up time people, the Nazies scared you into letting them take your country and liberty away with total non-sense. Take a good look at the damage Nazi's and their favorite "high" grain alcohol has done for one former actor, drinker and Nazi Mel Gibson.
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.
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Soothsayer, Google "Meth Mug Shots" and them explain how "good" speed is.

I've seen meth absolutely destroy people and wreak havoc among those who tried to save them.
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10/13/2006 05:31 PM
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Our bodies are nothing more than mixtures of chemicals of all kinds, making them actual drug factories.

The major rich people in the world have been doing drugs for many hundreds of years, for recreational use. That includes Kings and Queens, their friends, etc. How many of these types have ever been arrested or jailed for such things? How many have you ever heard of dying from Cancer?

All this "drug war" affects royals verses low income people? People need to grow-up and be responisible to themselves. Should not fatty foods be outlawed since they kill millions more than all the drugs in the entire world, legal and illegal. So we play these defeating games to only ruin families.
Oh how dumb we have become since allowing the Nazies to come in after WW-II pointing at Commies and a plant that Popular Science Magazine had said in 1922 could be used to make cheap fuel and over 20,000 other consumer products. Wake-up time people, the Nazies scared you into letting them take your country and liberty away with total non-sense. Take a good look at the damage Nazi's and their favorite "high" grain alcohol has done for one former actor, drinker and Nazi Mel Gibson.
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eh ? are YOU drugged up ?
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10/13/2006 06:09 PM
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i dont know but
seems like the op was
just pointing out that
there may be a legitimate medical use
for
crank

nothing it seems
is
purely evil
or
purely good

just depends on the
application

nicotine for example
seems smokers have less a chance
of
developing
parkinsons

these things should be investigated
not
kneejerked
into oblivion

peace
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10/13/2006 06:17 PM
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cocaine was used as an afternoon "tonic" for women, as a teething agent for babies and of course was responsible for the initial greatness of the soda/pop "coke".

all drugs/herbs have their uses in medicine.

it was legislators that decided which were "bad" and which were not so "bad". most of them drink alcohol and enjoy a cigar (no puns intended).

pres. bush (41) heralded the drug war with champegne.

legislators should get out of the medical area.

anyway, thank you OP for the good article showing the "good" of things when used wisely.
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I knew it would only be a matter of time before a drug warrior lashes out mindlessly about how bad all illegal drugs are.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



Really... ALL huh? What a crock of shit. Meth is a far cry from weed, both of which are illegal.

My opinions, from experience with addicts of both. (Weed may not be physically addictive but psychological dependence can be a problem):

Lived with meth addicts, lived with potheads. Guess which ones were lying, theiving, violent and criminal beyond illegal drug use?

Do NOT assume that it's the "Just Say No" crowd that has a problem with meth users. This shit is a plague, plain and simple.
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So what is it that causes your teeth to go bad. Is it from gritting and grinding them or a chem reaction. I was just reading up on it some where else and didn't read about the teeth part.
Sounds like some messed up SHIT to me.
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So what is it that causes your teeth to go bad.
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This is strange ...do you thunk it`s because users don`t clean them at all ?....although I don`t think this can be the case because decay seems to occur so rapidly...but not all users teeth go bad ... scratching





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hmm..speed is amphetamine. crystal/ice is methanphetamine...big difference
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I'd pay $1000.00 for a handful of Black Beauties right now. God they were great - in the day - One would keep you churning for 20 hours. And crank - not as clean, but not bad. Didn't destroy me. Of coarse that was years ago. Before the trailor trash discovered it. A real nose burner. Simular to any other "Dragon". Play with it when it's little, don't feed it, and don't let it grow, or it will hurt you.





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