If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70983707 Germany 12/07/2015 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70731748 United States 12/07/2015 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 what does it sound like to you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31354075 United States 12/07/2015 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 what does it sound like to you? Glugen flugen hygen plugen........ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31354075 United States 12/07/2015 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 what does it sound like to you? Glugen flugen hygen plugen........ |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70731748 United States 12/07/2015 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) peel back a layer of the onion and think about this obviously the progressive liberal left is part of the beast system the beast system is diametrically opposed to God they want us unarmed Jesus wanted us armed boom. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70983707 Germany 12/07/2015 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 what does it sound like to you? For me it sounds like, that he told his disciples (only), that they need swords, because in the end, when they capture/ arrest Jesus, they should use a sword... because it's part of Jesus' destiny: Matthew 26:51 And one of those who were with Jesus put out his hand, and took out his sword and gave the servant of the high priest a blow, cutting off his ear. Then says Jesus to him, Put up your sword again into its place: for all those who take the sword will come to death by the sword. Again, for me it doesn't sound like a general command and by the way you use this part I almost get the impression, I often get, when muslims, try to talk bad about the bible and Jesus, by using parts like these: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." To show, that Jesus was not peacful, but agressive... total taken out of context, so it fits in their own agenda. That you saw the need, to post a picture of "Jesus" with these words, makes me cringe. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70731748 United States 12/07/2015 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) ok, first of all, there is a difference from being a sword toting zealot who wants bloodshed at every turn and a person who needs to protect themselves. that is the difference btwn "live by the sword/die by the sword" a person who makes it their life mission to be at war, be a zealot, will die by the same means that they oppress onto others very different from taking a sword to protect yourself in the midst of evil people also, the reason the man who drew the sword to defend Jesus before his arrest was rebuked is because Jesus knew he had to die and the man with the sword was interfering with that mission also very different context, people. |
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User ID: 60551378 United States 12/07/2015 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 i guess in german it means build some ovens and lots of tanks and airplanes and guns and shit. Look at the cawk on that dawg Education is a process,not a result |
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User ID: 60551378 United States 12/07/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 i guess in german it means build some ovens and lots of tanks and airplanes and guns and shit. sorry ,could not help myself.seems many germans have become a suicide cult.even a hard core american white guilt lefty will fight if cornered. Look at the cawk on that dawg Education is a process,not a result |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25878820 United States 12/07/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) You think, you can use this part as an argument? You not think, that Jesus told this only to his disciples, because it had something to do with his destiny - when his disciples attacked the soldiers? When I read this part in german, it does not sound like a demand to buy a weapon of any kind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70983707 what does it sound like to you? For me it sounds like, that he told his disciples (only), that they need swords, because in the end, when they capture/ arrest Jesus, they should use a sword... because it's part of Jesus' destiny: Matthew 26:51 And one of those who were with Jesus put out his hand, and took out his sword and gave the servant of the high priest a blow, cutting off his ear. Then says Jesus to him, Put up your sword again into its place: for all those who take the sword will come to death by the sword. Again, for me it doesn't sound like a general command and by the way you use this part I almost get the impression, I often get, when muslims, try to talk bad about the bible and Jesus, by using parts like these: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." To show, that Jesus was not peacful, but agressive... total taken out of context, so it fits in their own agenda. That you saw the need, to post a picture of "Jesus" with these words, makes me cringe. Well here is the problem "For me it sounds like" Scripture is the ROCK. It is US who must change to conform to Scripture. You are trying to make Scripture bend for you. That's not going to happen. Old Testament Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: Ecclesiastes 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; Ecclesiastes 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; Ecclesiastes 3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; Ecclesiastes 3:5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; Ecclesiastes 3:6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; Ecclesiastes 3:7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; Ecclesiastes 3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. New Testament Jesus speaking Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. Luke 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. Jesus told the apostles to buy swords. Luke 22:47 And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him. Luke 22:48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss? Luke 22:49 When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? Luke 22:50 And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. Did you see that? The apostles ASKED Jesus if they should smite the evil men who came to arrest Jesus BEFORE Peter struck the servant. John 18:10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus. John 18:11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? Jesus APPROVED of Peter using his sword against the evil GOVT leaders who came to arrest Him. Jesus ONLY told Peter to put his sword away because it was time for Jesus to give Himself up to die on the cross for us. Every Christian should own at least one firearm to defend themselves from ANYONE who is threatening to harm them. Own a firearm and then live in peace if the govt will allow you to live in peace. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70785810 United States 12/07/2015 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36 (Even Jesus supports being armed for protection) This is a misrepresentation of the verse. The actual context here is that it was illegal for citizens to be armed and Jesus needed to be numbered "among the transgressors" to fulfill prophecy. |
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