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Didn't Einstein come up with his theory while riding a train?


Einstein described how at age 16 he watched himself in his mind’s eye as he rode on a light wave and gazed at another light wave moving parallel to his. According to classical physics, Einstein should have seen the second light wave moving at a relative speed of zero. However, Einstein knew that Maxwell’s electromagnetic equations absolutely require that light always move at 3 × 108 metres per second in a vacuum.

Nothing in the theory allows a light wave to have a speed of zero. Another problem arose as well: if a fixed observer sees light as having a speed of 3 × 108 metres per second, whereas an observer moving at the speed of light sees light as having a speed of zero, it would mean that the laws of electromagnetism depend on the observer.

But in classical mechanics the same laws apply for all observers, and Einstein saw no reason why the electromagnetic laws should not be equally universal. The constancy of the speed of light and the universality of the laws of physics for all observers are cornerstones of special relativity.

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The depiction of Apep, finally makes far more sense.


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Signs of an Unknown Solar 'Tsunami' Have Been Discovered Deep Inside Earth's Ice

Judging by the ratio of chlorine-36 to beryllium-10 isotopes, this event may even have been larger than the largest solar storm recorded to date in other ice cores and tree rings, dated to the year 774.

Both of these prehistoric storms were much larger than anything we have seen since the 1950s, "thus implying a so far underestimated threat to our society", according to the authors of the paper.

"These enormous storms are currently not sufficiently included in risk assessments," says Muscheler.

"It is of the utmost importance to analyze what these events could mean for today's technology and how we can protect ourselves."

Otherwise, the Sun could catch us wholly unprepared.

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Deep beneath the ice in Greenland and Antarctica, researchers have found signs of an enormous solar 'tsunami' that once crashed against Earth's atmosphere more than 9,000 years ago.

This ancient superstorm was triggered by a wave of hot plasma and magnetism from the Sun, and it is significantly larger than anything we have recorded in recent history.

The findings have got scientists concerned about our ability to predict when the Sun is going to let loose next.

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Don't drain all of the pasta water: Pasta water is a great addition to the sauce. Add about a ¼-1/2 cup or ladle full of water to your sauce before adding the pasta. The salty, starchy water not only adds flavor but helps glue the pasta and sauce together; it will also help thicken the sauce.
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Signs of an Unknown Solar 'Tsunami' Have Been Discovered Deep Inside Earth's Ice

Judging by the ratio of chlorine-36 to beryllium-10 isotopes, this event may even have been larger than the largest solar storm recorded to date in other ice cores and tree rings, dated to the year 774.

Both of these prehistoric storms were much larger than anything we have seen since the 1950s, "thus implying a so far underestimated threat to our society", according to the authors of the paper.

"These enormous storms are currently not sufficiently included in risk assessments," says Muscheler.

"It is of the utmost importance to analyze what these events could mean for today's technology and how we can protect ourselves."

Otherwise, the Sun could catch us wholly unprepared.

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Deep beneath the ice in Greenland and Antarctica, researchers have found signs of an enormous solar 'tsunami' that once crashed against Earth's atmosphere more than 9,000 years ago.

This ancient superstorm was triggered by a wave of hot plasma and magnetism from the Sun, and it is significantly larger than anything we have recorded in recent history.

The findings have got scientists concerned about our ability to predict when the Sun is going to let loose next.

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The VR environments are far more amazing than this really. Should be mentioned.
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There’s a reason that we don’t have new seasons of Black Mirror. We’re in it.
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My current view isn't much different than Mark's in the Metaverse ad..

Mine is real though.
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Thread: Facebook about to get wiped out!

Facebook Owner Meta Set for $200 Billion Wipeout, Among Worst in Market History
The Facebook parent plunged 22% in early U.S. trading on the back of poor earnings results, putting it on track to erase about $195 billion.

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As Meta stock plummets 25%...what's in store for fellow US tech stock giants like Netflix as interest rates and shareholder caution rise?
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As an electrical engineer cryptocurrencies piss me off more than just about anything. Hey let's destroy the environment for a scam. Fuck no.



Greater fool theory

In finance, the greater fool theory suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets ;items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value; if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, on the assumption that he can probably sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit.

This only works as long as there are new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value

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More than half of sex trafficking victims in the U.S. last year were recruited on Facebook, bombshell report reveals

The majority of online recruitment in active sex trafficking cases last year occurred on Facebook, according to a new report from the Human Trafficking Institute.

According to the 2020 Federal Human Trafficking Report, 59 percent of all online sex trafficking recruitment in active cases occurred on Facebook. That number rose to 65 percent in active cases involving children.

The internet was the most common recruitment ground for human traffickers last year, making up 41 percent of active cases in 2020 - a rising trend since 2000.

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^^

The product.
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Thread: Communist China's Tik Tok now openly collecting US Kids Face and Voice Prints

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The Chinese-owned video-sharing app TikTok, wildly popular with American teenagers, has updated its privacy policy to add a section stating that the app will collect biometric information including “faceprints and voiceprints” from users.
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We carry it around in our pockets. We wear it on our wrists. We devote more than 10.5 hours a day to screen time.

Facebook has conducted experiments on us that show how susceptible we are to mind control. In 2012, the company secretly tampered with the news feeds of nearly 700,000 people, manipulating the ratio of emotionally positive to emotionally negative posts, then monitoring the subsequent activity of those users.

What they found is that emotions can be remotely controlled and are highly contagious on the platform. People who saw more unhappy posts showed more unhappy activity and vice versa. Many questioned the experiment’s legality and ethics, wondering if Facebook had triggered any suicides. Facebook apologized for the way the experiments were conducted and promised to conduct them “differently” in the future, with enhanced review.

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People are very easy to control using emotional triggers disguised as positive reinforcement, and the susceptibility to echo chamber in social media, is terrifying.

World of Warcraft utilized this same methodology when when they changed the word 'unrested' to 'normal' and 'normal' to 'rested'.


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Research

Informed consent is part of the ethical clinical research as well, in which a human subject voluntarily confirms his or her willingness to participate in a particular clinical trial, after having been informed of all aspects of the trial that are relevant to the subject's decision to participate. Informed consent is documented by means of a written, signed, and dated informed consent form. In medical research, the Nuremberg Code set a base international standard in 1947, which continued to develop, for example in response to the ethical violation in the Holocaust. Nowadays, medical research is overseen by an ethics committee that also oversees the informed consent process.

As the medical guidelines established in the Nuremberg Code were imported into the ethical guidelines for the social sciences, informed consent became a common part of the research procedure. However, while informed consent is the default in medical settings, it is not always required in the social science. Here, research often involves low or no risk for participants, unlike in many medical experiments. Second, the mere knowledge that they participate in a study can cause people to alter their behavior, as in the Hawthorne Effect: "In the typical lab experiment, subjects enter an environment in which they are keenly aware that their behavior is being monitored, recorded, and subsequently scrutinized."

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The birth of new online media, such as social media, has complicated the idea of informed consent. In an online environment people pay little attention to Terms of Use agreements and can subject themselves to research without thorough knowledge. This issue came to the public light following a study conducted by Facebook Inc. in 2014, and published by that company and Cornell University. Facebook conducted a study where they altered the Facebook News Feeds of roughly 700,000 users to reduce either the amount of positive or negative posts they saw for a week. The study then analyzed if the users status updates changed during the different conditions. The study was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The lack of informed consent led to outrage among many researchers and users. Many believed that by potentially altering the mood of users by altering what posts they see, Facebook put at-risk individuals at higher dangers for depression and suicide. However, supports of Facebook claim that Facebook details that they have the right to use information for research in their terms of use. Others say the experiment is just a part of Facebook's current work, which alters News Feeds algorithms continually to keep people interested and coming back to the site. Others pointed out that this specific study is not along but that news organizations constantly try out different headlines using algorithms to elicit emotions and garner clicks or Facebook shares.

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Facebook loses users for the first time in its history

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Fuel for the fire.

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The energy rn..

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They would do it..until they died..
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Dopamine-driven feedback loop

Dopamine is associated with “seeking” behavior. It works to motivate people to seek out food, information and entertainment, among myriad other commodities and experiences. Once a target is achieved, the brain’s opioid system delivers a chemical reward that we experience as pleasure.

Through experiencing this cycle repeatedly, people and other animals learn to anticipate pleasure from seeking, which perpetuates the loop.


Social media use provides a good model of the dopamine feedback loop. The search for information or entertainment drives people to scroll through their Facebook newsfeeds, for example, in anticipation of pleasure when something interesting pops up.

It’s not necessary that there are a great number of interesting items in the feed because, as in operant conditioning, an intermittent reinforcement schedule is the most effective for maintaining target behavior. In this case, the desired behavior is keeping people scrolling as long as possible. The feedback loop also manifests through posts, as people post anticipating responses and are rewarded by Likes and other reactions.

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People are finally catching on..

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The Business of America is Business Edition

Many people have likely heard a quote attributed to President Calvin Coolidge, “The business of America is business,” but this is a misquote. The real quote is a little bit different and the context in which it was said is not likely what most would expect.

The actual quote wasn’t necessarily a simple, catchy line. It wasn’t in a Big Business Speech or an answer to a business related question.

It was spoken during an address President Calvin Coolidge gave to the American Society of Newspaper Editors in Washington, D.C. on January 17, 1925. Given that the speech was before a news trade group, Coolidge was talking about the role of the press in a modern, democratic America and included warnings about the evils of propaganda. But more specifically, he was talking the role of the press in free-market America. After speaking for a bit he eventually said:


"After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with producing, buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world."

While the quotes themselves may differ, for many, the sentiment behind both may not differ all that much.

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Facebook has so much blood on their hands.

Up to their knees.
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This isn't over.
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I wonder how long it would/could take to totally crash FB/Meta.


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Spiritual opium.

The news will come as a hammer-blown to China's already under-fire tech sector and particularly gaming firm Tencent, which was recently accused of peddaling 'spiritual opium' to children and hit with anti-trust lawsuits that wiped $170billion off its value.

Tencent's stock price closed down 0.6 per cent on Monday ahead of the regulator's announcement.

Its current market capitalization of $573billion is down more than $300billion from its February peak, a decline equal to more than the total value of Nike or Pfizer.

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Equal to Nike or Pfizer..
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Thread: BREAKING: "Chinese authorities have banned all new video games from being released indefinitely"



That's nuts... Tencent owns a HUGE chunk of Epic Games...
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Thread: BREAKING: Another Chinese Real Estate Stock Crashes TODAY

The contagian is spreading from Evergrande, now Shanghai based Sinic Holdings had to halt trading after a 87 percent drop.

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Sinic Holdings Group Co. has halted trading after an 87% slump in its shares Monday afternoon.

The Shanghai-based developer didn’t give any reason for the trading halt in Hong Kong. The sudden selloff in the last two hours leading up to the suspension was accompanied by a surge in trading volume that was about 14 times its average in the past year, according to Bloomberg-compiled data.
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Thread: BREAKING: Evergrande Set to Default Saturday. Contagion Already Spreading. US Treasury Likely Defaults 12/3. Bitcoin Sets All-Time High






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Didn't Einstein come up with his theory while riding a train?


Einstein described how at age 16 he watched himself in his mind’s eye as he rode on a light wave and gazed at another light wave moving parallel to his. According to classical physics, Einstein should have seen the second light wave moving at a relative speed of zero. However, Einstein knew that Maxwell’s electromagnetic equations absolutely require that light always move at 3 × 108 metres per second in a vacuum.

Nothing in the theory allows a light wave to have a speed of zero. Another problem arose as well: if a fixed observer sees light as having a speed of 3 × 108 metres per second, whereas an observer moving at the speed of light sees light as having a speed of zero, it would mean that the laws of electromagnetism depend on the observer.

But in classical mechanics the same laws apply for all observers, and Einstein saw no reason why the electromagnetic laws should not be equally universal. The constancy of the speed of light and the universality of the laws of physics for all observers are cornerstones of special relativity.

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Facebook has so much blood on their hands.

Up to their knees.
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-26.39% at the close.
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You’re Doing it Wrong: The Guide to Making Perfect Pasta

Don't drain all of the pasta water: Pasta water is a great addition to the sauce. Add about a ¼-1/2 cup or ladle full of water to your sauce before adding the pasta. The salty, starchy water not only adds flavor but helps glue the pasta and sauce together; it will also help thicken the sauce.
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^Can't wait to try this. Makes sense why the sauce would stick to the noodles with the added starch. cool2

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I've been making pasta since childhood and have never once seen or been told to add a little pasta water back into the sauce.

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Facebook has so much blood on their hands.

Up to their knees.
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Do harsher punishments deter crime?

Another assumption is that people who commit crimes engage in a rational calculation with the likelihood that they will be apprehended, prosecuted and convicted, he says.

'The severity of punishment, known as marginal deterrence, has no real deterrent effect, or the effect of reducing recidivism.'


“A large number of crimes are what we call expressive crimes – that is they are affected by anger, rage, depression, drug or alcohol use, indicators of psychological disturbances,” he says. “So people are not turning their mind in a rational, calculating way, using cost-benefit of whether the punishment outweighs the benefit.


“There is the assumption too that people are acting in a vacuum, that they’re not influenced by a range of economic, social and cultural factors that provide the context within various forms of offending occurs.”

Professor Brown says we only need to look at the high rates of recidivism for past offenders to know that imprisonment doesn’t work in reducing further crime.

“Roughly around 60% of the people sentenced to prison have previously been in prison,” he says.

There are a number of civil disabilities that stem from imprisonments, such as exclusion from the job market, de-skilling and lack of access to housing, which lead offenders back to crime.

“It’s very hard to get a job with a criminal record, and particularly if you’ve been sentenced to imprisonment; it is so stigmatised,” he says. “People, for the period that they’re imprisoned, are not learning any new skills for employment.

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JUSTICE SYSTEM IN SINGAPORE: CANING, TOUGH SENTENCES AND EXECUTIONS


Caning in Singapore
Caning—being flogged with a moistened rattan cane— a judicial practice in Singapore and is meted out for offences ranging from vandalism to illegal possession of drugs. It is mandatory for crimes such as attempted murder, rape, armed robbery, drug trafficking, auto theft, vandalism, illegal immigration and optional for others. Young people have been caned for writing graffiti. Men over 50 and women can be sentenced to death, but not caned.


Death Penalty in Singapore
Amnesty International said Singapore has hanged over 420 people—including dozens of foreigners since 1991 and has the highest per capita execution rate in the world.

Amnesty says Singapore does not make public the number of people it executes. Most of those executed were convicted of drug trafficking, it said.


Reforming Singapore’s Death Penalty Laws
Human Rights Watch reported: On November 14, 2012, Singapore’s parliament passed new laws authorizing incremental changes in mandatory death penalty provisions that affect some 20 drug-related and intentional murder offenses. In drug cases, judges may drop the mandatory death sentence requirement and opt instead for life in prison with caning if two conditions are met: the accused must have functioned only as a courier, and either meaningfully cooperated with the Central Narcotics Bureau or have a “mental disability that impairs appreciation of his own actions.”

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Being 'forced' to submit to anything is at the core of humiliation.

Throwing one's weight around, eventually comes to an end. Often dramatically and suddenly in a fit of rage.

Rage being the brother of Wrath.


Your blood isn't in your brain while you're raging, that's why one becomes subject to poor and deadly choices.


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Do harsher punishments deter crime?

Another assumption is that people who commit crimes engage in a rational calculation with the likelihood that they will be apprehended, prosecuted and convicted, he says.

'The severity of punishment, known as marginal deterrence, has no real deterrent effect, or the effect of reducing recidivism.'


“A large number of crimes are what we call expressive crimes – that is they are affected by anger, rage, depression, drug or alcohol use, indicators of psychological disturbances,” he says. “So people are not turning their mind in a rational, calculating way, using cost-benefit of whether the punishment outweighs the benefit.


“There is the assumption too that people are acting in a vacuum, that they’re not influenced by a range of economic, social and cultural factors that provide the context within various forms of offending occurs.”

Professor Brown says we only need to look at the high rates of recidivism for past offenders to know that imprisonment doesn’t work in reducing further crime.

“Roughly around 60% of the people sentenced to prison have previously been in prison,” he says.

There are a number of civil disabilities that stem from imprisonments, such as exclusion from the job market, de-skilling and lack of access to housing, which lead offenders back to crime.

“It’s very hard to get a job with a criminal record, and particularly if you’ve been sentenced to imprisonment; it is so stigmatised,” he says. “People, for the period that they’re imprisoned, are not learning any new skills for employment.

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He does have a very punchable face. I think I'd enjoy watching Low-blow and Crusher work him over for awhile..Casino-style.

Sometimes violence is the answer.

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Details of Caning in Malaysia

Caning victims are tied down to an A-shaped a wooden trestle and flogged on their bare buttocks with a half-inch-thick rattan cane wielded by a professional caner trained in the martial arts. The canes are moistened so they don't fray. The reason it so painful is that the first few blows open the skin and subsequent blows are wielded on the open wounds. Caning is so painful that victims usually go into shock before the caning is finished and are left with permanent scars. They often have to sleep on their stomach for weeks and have difficulty walking.

On caning in Malaysia, Amnesty International reported: “Specially trained caning officers tear into victims’ bodies with a metre-long cane swung with both hands at high speed. The cane rips into the victim’s naked skin, pulps the fatty tissue below, and leaves scars that extend to muscle fibre. The pain is so severe that victims often lose consciousness. The Malaysian government does not punish officers for their actions. Instead, it trains officers how to conduct caning and pays them a bonus for each stroke. Many double their income through their caning work. Others take bribes to intentionally miss, sparing their victims.

“State-employed doctors also play an integral role in caning. They examine victims and certify their fitness to be caned. When victims lose consciousness during caning, they revive them so the punishment can continue. After caning, some victims suffer long-term physical disabilities. “The role that Malaysian doctors play in facilitating deliberate pain and injury through caning is absolutely contrary to international medical ethics,” said Sam Zarifi. “Instead of treating the victims, doctors are assisting in their torture and ill-treatment.”

Caning is carried out differently on men and women. Male drug offenders, kidnappers and others have been caned with a thick rattan stick on bare buttocks, breaking the skin and leaving lifelong scars. The handful of women that have been caned have been struck under Islamic laws with a thin cane on the back with their clothes on.

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If you could choose a sound beating or 1 year in jail, what would you choose and why is one considered less 'cruel and unusual' than the other?


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Why not both? Neither are really offputting , except to those who are easily cowed.
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