Jesus vs. Mohammad

What's that Mohhamed ?

who cares what you think, god doesn't

or your country wouldn't be racked with conflict

who is worse, roman Israelis, or roman muslims?

What is a Roman Israeli ?

You said it yourself, "Christ commands his servants to bring his enemies to him to slay them before him." Christ, and his servants, killing nonbelievers.

I have nothing to do with Muslims, I find its political ideology reprehensible, just as I also find Luke 19.27 reprehensible.

^Reprehensible? Didn't i mentioned earlier that it is story? Or a parable? It is to teach people how to handle investment/money..

He is talking to his angels at the time of judgement clock boy - your'e really desperate to equate Christ with your pervert false prophet. you can't stand we know Islam worships satan and Mohamed was a demon inspired looser



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A parable to illustrate what? Money? So if people don't want me and my money to rule over them, I should slay them??

I have nothing to do with musslemen and their false religion either. I'm talking about Jesus slaying those who don't want him.

You mention this one obscure passage that is NOT AN OPEN COMMAND TO KILL unlike the hundreds of open command to kill verses in the queeran. Your desperation to equate the teachings of Christ with Mo are pathetic and not based on reason or knowledge. Grow up

whoops
forgot that I was replying to a sheep.
Israel was created by the romans

Read your own "holy scripture" and grow up. Isn't the goal of Christians to be like Christ? And Christ slays his enemies? And commands his servants to slay them, in that same verse!

You obviously hate Christians so much you have to ignore the whole teachings of Christ. I invite you to read all of Christ words in the four gospels, then read the queearn - if you are an honest person you will see the truth and grow beyond your hate and ignorance.

No, I don't hate misguided Christians, I dislike Christianity where different Christian groups pick and choose what verses they want believe and follow or ignore, and say to others "that is only a parable" or "that command is no longer valid" or "you're taking it out of context" if they happen to disagree with you.

Doesn't matter if it's one obscure verse verses hundreds of similar ones in Islam, if you believe that one verse is divinely inspired.

The verse does not say kill others now - its for angels on the day of judgement - but you don't care about truth - your agenda is to twist the meaning to fit your agenda.

#1 The verse does not say that only angels involved in the slaying, only those who are serving him.

#2 The verse doesn't limit it to now, or to some later time. In fact, "would", "reign", "bring" and "slay" in the verse are all in the Greek aorist sense, which has no limit on time (past/present/future) whatsoever.

If anything, you're twisting the meaning to fit your Christian agenda

Islam means submission.

The opposite of submission is rebellion.
What does God say about those that rebell against him and his laws?

He loves them? No he rejects them. 1 Samuel 15:23

Is Jesus and God one? Your Jesus/God wiped out the entire earth with a flood.

As far as body count goes. It's Jesus/God FTW.

It, like every verse, is understood in light of the WHOLE of Christ message. Until you read all of His sayings you have no idea what He meant. I encourage you to read for yourself like I have (I have also read the queean and it is obviously the antithesis of Christ teachings)

This time I got Father's permission to create.

So does Quran. Until you read all of the sayings you have no idea what they means.

I have read the Bible many times, was appointed as a Bible teacher in church for many years too. I've read it so much that I eventually rejected it, especially after reading many obviously failed prophecies in the Bible.

What's that saying, "the cure for Christianity is really reading the Bible in detail"? ;)

Oh I have! I am not an ignorant Infidel! Have you read ALL the words of Christ in the Bible?

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An Abridged Koran (The Islamic Trilogy) (Paperback)


YOU HAVE HEARD Islamic terrorists quoting violent passages from the Koran (also spelled Quran), justifying their actions. And you've heard other Muslims saying the terrorists have it all wrong and quoting peaceful passages.

How do you know what is really in that book? Anyone talking about the Koran may have an agenda, may be biased, and may be deliberately distorting the contents. The only way to really know for sure what's going on is to read it yourself.

The Koran also repeats itself many times, making it difficult to stay focused while you read it. The chapters are arranged in order from the longest to the shortest chapter, rather than in chronological order, so it seems to jump around, which is confusing.

This version of the Koran fixes these problems putting these passages in chronological order and translates them into modern, readable English.

An interesting thing comes to light in reading this version. Because the chapters are laid out in chronological order, you can clearly see the progression from tolerance at first — tolerance of the Jews, and even seeking the approval of the Jews — to rejection of them and their "evil ways," to outright hatred, condemnation, and urging war against them.


The way the Koran is normally laid out, you would never notice this progression as the revelations changed.

But wait a minute, you might be thinking, the fact that the revelations changed means there are conflicting passage in the Koran, right? So can't believers pick and choose what they want?

Unfortunately, the Koran itself tells the believer how to handle its own contradictions. It says if a revelation contradicts one that came before it; the newer one overwrites the older one. This is the principle known as "abrogation." The bad news for non-Muslims is that all the intolerant and violent passages abrogate the earlier tolerant and peaceful ones.

The first three-fourths of the book are difficult to read because it is uninteresting. But then the book completely changes its tune. So when you're reading, just keep going.

The reason it becomes interesting for non-Muslims is because the nature of Mohammad's revelations totally changed once he gained military power. When he first started out (when Islam was a small minority) Mohammad preached peace and tolerance. But once he gained enough followers, started raiding caravans, and gained military and financial power (from the booty he gained from the caravans), he stopped trying to curry favor with the Jews and Christians and his revelations became intolerant and then downright hateful.

Don't take my word for it. Don't take anybody's word for it! Find out for yourself.

Most important question is; If Quran promotes killing of disbelievers whether there is war or not, why Hz. Muhammad and other Muslim rulers did not kill all the Christians and Jews? Why they didn't kill everyone in the area?

the tongue of a warrior....words of fire.

I don't think you understand what it means. Have you even read? What makes you think it is you and your money to rule over them? It is about people misusing the money and cheating with the money instead of using the money the right way and makes a profit instead of cheating.
Have to be honest and honest to each other.

Those who accepted the statehood of being a Dhimmi were permitted to live as second class citizens and had to pay a special tax. No thanks, I will not submit!

Oh, OK, my mistake.

You're just stupid.

Don't you think it's odd that, with the billions of people who have heard the Gospel, the hundreds of milliosn who have read it, and the millions who have studied it in-depth, that not a single one read Luke 19:27 with the barking mad moonbat spin you do?

Oh for fuck's sake...

OK, then where does the slaying part come in?