Jesus vs. Mohammad

What spin is that? That Jesus commands his servants to slay his enemies?

I don't know about the other billions, but I would venture to guess that most have barely read the Bible except for certain verses here and there, much less are able to read it in the Greek.

Here is one response from a well known and often referenced Bible Scholar

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

19:11-27 This parable is like that of the talents, Mt 25. Those that are called to Christ, he furnishes with gifts needful for their business; and from those to whom he gives power, he expects service. The manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal, 1Co 12:7. And as every one has received the gift, so let him minister the same, 1Pe 4:10. The account required, resembles that in the parable of the talents; and the punishment of the avowed enemies of Christ, as well as of false professors, is shown. The principal difference is, that the pound given to each seems to point out the gift of the gospel, which is the same to all who hear it; but the talents, distributed more or less, seem to mean that God gives different capacities and advantages to men, by which this one gift of the gospel may be differently improved.

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Thanks, I agree, and I've cut the quote down to the part that I find relevant. What I've written is in 100% agreement.

What is being lost in this meaningless arguing is Christ primary commands

Love God
Love others

He stressed love, mercy and charity - Read the Gospels for yourselves and learn the truth.

Mark 12:29 - 31

Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.' "The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these."…

So it means Islam does not command kill every disbeliever.
So it means you could easily say: "No thank, I will not submit but I want to live here and i will pay a tax."

It does not very different than todays practices in all over the world, if you want to live freely you should obey to the rules. For example, you should pay taxes for your religion in Iceland, whether you are Christian or Muslim or another religion. Do you think that there is/was a land where you can easily say "No fuck your King/Government but i'm living here without paying taxes and I don't care about whatever law you're commanding." No you can't say that. Do you want to live in USA, so you should obey the rules. Do you want to live in Norway? You should pay your taxes.

While Muslims were forced to fight at wars, if you were a non-muslim and paying your taxes, then you were sitting at your home with your wife and children, in peace. And that's exactly what was happened.

Fine, I hope you are honest and read the entire Gospel - for with out context you can twist anything to mean whatever you want

i.e. (2 verses picked at random)

Judas went and hung himself

Go thou and do likewise


So, do you seek truth or to just twist things to your desire?

Not so "easy to say" clock boy - we are not deceived

Where a minority, Islam always shouts about human rights.
Where a majority, there never will be minority human rights.

Islam is not a religion, It is a theocracy and terrorist cult that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination.

The common man is being willfully misled by the political and media elites about the "religious" imperative that is behind the Islamic war against the West. Most people have still never even heard of Islamic supremacism – or realize just how pervasive it is.

It starts with the Qur’an

Muslims should “fight in God’s cause against those who wage war against you, and do not commit aggression, for, verily, God does not love aggressors. And slay them wherever you find them” (2:190-191). Don’t commit aggression, but slay them wherever you find them. Right. Muslims are supposed to fight against those who have “denied the truth” until “there is no more oppression and all worship is devoted to God alone” (8:39). So now Muslims have to fight unbelievers until everyone worships only Allah.


Muslims are told to “fight against those who -- despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime] -- do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon them], till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand, after having been humbled [in war]” (9:29).

Those who have been “vouchsafed revelation aforetime” are the Jews and Christians. The “Apostle” is Muhammad. So Muslims must fight Jews and Christians until they have been “humbled” and pay a special tax.


So Muslims are supposed to beat women whose “ill-will” they “have reason to fear,” and kill those who wage war against them, and hypocrites who are in open enmity against them, wherever they find them. They must also fight against and subjugate Jews and Christians. Muslims who pray the required five daily prayers curse Christians and Jews no less than 17 times.

That’s Islamic supremacism.


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In Islam - there are two "houses"

The house of Islam (Submission)

The house of War

If you are not of the house of Islam - you are of the house of war

Islam, believes it is at war with you

No matter what you believe

No matter how much you don't want to accept this

No matter where you are

No matter who you are

And since this is war - Muslims are permitted to lie, and kill

Hope you understand this - Muslims do


Dar al-Islam and dar al-harb: the House of Islam and the House of War

The violent injunctions of the Quran and the violent precedents set by Muhammad set the tone for the Islamic view of politics and of world history. Islamic scholarship divides the world into two spheres of influence, the House of Islam (dar al-Islam) and the House of War (dar al-harb). Islam means submission, and so the House of Islam includes those nations that have submitted to Islamic rule, which is to say those nations ruled by Sharia law. The rest of the world, which has not accepted Sharia law and so is not in a state of submission, exists in a state of rebellion or war with the will of Allah. It is incumbent on dar al-Islam to make war upon dar al-harb until such time that all nations submit to the will of Allah and accept Sharia law. Islam's message to the non-Muslim world is the same now as it was in the time of Muhammad and throughout history: submit or be conquered. The only times since Muhammad when dar al-Islam was not actively at war with dar al-harb were when the Muslim world was too weak or divided to make war effectively.

But the lulls in the ongoing war that the House of Islam has declared against the House of War do not indicate a forsaking of jihad as a principle but reflect a change in strategic factors. It is acceptable for Muslim nations to declare hudna, or truce, at times when the infidel nations are too powerful for open warfare to make sense. Jihad is not a collective suicide pact even while "killing and being killed" (Sura 9:111) is encouraged on an individual level. For the past few hundred years, the Muslim world has been too politically fragmented and technologically inferior to pose a major threat to the West. But that is changing.

[link to www.jihadwatch.org]




Islam is not a religion, It is a theocracy and terrorist cult that hides behind the mask of religion in order to acheive its mission of world domination.

Read the rest of this Liberty Alliance article here: [link to libertyalliance.com]


“Let me say this. And this – I don’t care about being popular or whatever. The first thing you got to do is you got to study and understand who you’re up against. And you must realize that this is not a religion that you’re fighting against. You’re fighting against a theo-political belief system and construct. You’re fighting against something that’s been doing this thing since 622 A.D. Since the 7th Century. Thirteen hundred and eighty-eight years.

You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why he was fighting the Muslim Army at the Battle of Tours in 732? You want to ask the Venetian fleet at Lepanto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? You want to ask the Christian, I mean the Germanic and Austrian Knights why they were fighting at the Gates of Vienna in 1683? You want to ask people what happened at Constantinople and why today it’s called Istanbul because they lost that fight in 1453.

You need to get into the Koran. You need to understand their precepts. You need to read the Surah. You need to read the Hadithe. And then you can really understand this is not a perversion. They are doing exactly what this book says…”

--Lt. Colonel West (U.S. Army Ret.)





Islam is not a RACE (From a former Muslim)

I am fed up with hypocrites worried about PC and irrelevant matters when we have real problems. We can't have a candy coated version of Islam being taught in our schools...ISLAM is NOT A RACE!



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Yes, I've read all of the gospels multiple times. The simple fact is: Christ does command his servants to slay his enemies.

Christ also commanded his 11 apostles to go forth into the world to teach the gentiles to obey all that he taught those Jewish apostles to obey, but I don't see most Christians obeying that (Matthew 28:19-20).

I am a seeker of truth, are you?

I doubt you really follow the truth - you seem to be misled or are trying to mislead

Consider Acts 10

The teachings to the gentiles included NOT having to follow over 630 OT laws. Even Peter going into the house of a gentile was forbidden (he went anyway - he was not bound by the law - but free in Christ)

(27-29) Entering Cornelius’ house, Peter explains why he came.

And as he talked with him, he went in and found many who had come together. Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Therefore I came without objection as soon as I was sent for. I ask, then, for what reason have you sent for me?”\

Acts 21: 24 - 26

. . take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. "But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should abstain from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from fornication." Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.


The teaching of Christ, during His life was to the Jews - - you must interpret scripture by knowing (hermeneutical principles):

-Who is speaking
-To whom are they speaking
-in what context are they speaking

When the Holy Spirit prompted the Apostles to reach out to gentiles we see in the above scriptures they were NOT beholden to the entire OT law.

I hope you learned from the scriptures you are in error in your statement above.

Galatians 3

1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

7Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

10For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

23Before the coming of this faith,j we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

26So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Galatians 5

Freedom in Christ

1It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? 8That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9“A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.” 10I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion, whoever that may be, will have to pay the penalty. 11Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Islam-Ex Muslim., Allah is a Gangster,watch this you will leave Islam



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Islam vs Christianity (for those who claim allah is Jehovah/Christ)

Islam:

Jesus Christ is only a slave.
"And when the son of Mary is quoted as an example, behold! The folk laugh out, and say: Are our gods better, or is he? They raise not the objection save for argument. Nay! but they are a contentious folk. He is nothing but a slave on whom we bestowed favor, and we made him a pattern for the Children of Israel. And had we willed it we would have set among you angels to be viceroys in the earth". Quran [043.057-060]

Christianity:

Jesus Christ is Almighty God.
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Other Bible verses that prove Jesus Christ is YHWH:
1. Rom. 10:9-13, Phil. 2:9-11, Heb. 1:10, 1 Pet. 2:34, Psa. 34:8a, Pet. 2:4-8, 1 Pet. 3:14-15: (Deut. 6:4; Mark 12:29): 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 4:5; cf. Rom. 10:12; 1 Cor. 12:5


Islam:

Jesus Christ was not crucified.
"That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary a grave false charge; That they said (in boast): We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah. But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjunction to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. ... And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness against them (Christians)." (Quran, 004:156-159)

Christianity:

Jesus Christ was crucified to make atonement for our sins.
2 Corinthians 13:4 For to be sure, he was crucified in weakness, yet he lives by God’s power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God’s power we will live with him to serve you.
Mark 16:6 "Don’t be alarmed," he said. "You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.
Other Bible verses that prove Jesus Christ was crucified:
Matthew 20:19, 26:2, 27:26, 27:35, 27:38, 27:44, 28:5, Mark 15:15, 15:24, 15:25, 15:27, 15:32, 16:6, Luke 23:23, 23:33, 24:7, 24:20, John 19:16, 19:17, 19:20, 19:23, 19:32, 19:41, Acts 2:36, 4:10, Romans 6:6, 1 Corinthians 1:13, 1:23, 2:2, 2:8, 2 Corinthians 13:4, Galatians 2:20, 3:1, 5:24, 6:14, Revelation 11:8

Islam:

Jesus Christ is just a messenger of Allah and Mohammed.
"Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One (Ahmad). But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" Quran [061.006]

Christianity:

Jesus Christ is the First and Last, The Word.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Other Bible verses that prove the sovereignty of Jesus Christ:
John 1:1; Col. 1:15; 2:9; Heb. 1:3, John 5:26, Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8, John 1:1; 8:58; 17:5; Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:2, Matt. 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13; Eph.1:23; 4:10: Col. 3:11, John 16:30; 21:17; cf. 2:23-24, Matt. 11:25-27

Islam:

Jesus Christ Is Not Lord
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). Quran [009.031]

Christianity:

Jesus Christ Is Lord
Philippians 2:9-11 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Islam:

God has no son.
"Say He is God, the One and Only God, the, Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him!" Qur'an [112:1-4]
They said, "The Most Gracious has begotten a son"! You have uttered a gross blasphemy. The heavens are about to shatter, the earth is about to tear asunder, and the mountains are about to crumble. Because they claim that the Most Gracious has begotten a son. It is not befitting the Most Gracious that He should beget a son. Every single one in the heavens and the earth is a servant of the Most Gracious. He has encompassed them, and has counted them one by one. All of them will come before Him on the Day of Resurrection as individuals. Quran: [19:88-95]
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things." Quran [005.017]
They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. Quran [005.072]
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. Quran [019.035]


Christianity:

God has a Son.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


Islam:

Fight Against Your Enemies
Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,- Quran [004.095]
O ye who believe! if any from among you turn back from his Faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him,- lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault. That is the grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things. Quran [005.054]
Or think ye that ye shall be abandoned, as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main, and take none for friends and protectors except Allah, His Messenger, and the (community of) Believers? But Allah is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do. Quran [009.016]
O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love, even though they have rejected the Truth that has come to you, and have (on the contrary) driven out the Prophet and yourselves (from your homes), (simply) because ye believe in Allah your Lord! Quran [060.001]
When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies. Quran [004.101]
Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. Quran [008.059-060]


Christianity:

Pray For Them
Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 5:43-44 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Islam and terrorism have gone hand in hand since its inception at the beginning of the 7th century. In fact, it's founder Muhammad was a terrorist and used "religion" to band his merry men together to conquer, rape and pillage.
For nearly fifteen centuries the world has faced the disease of Islam, but our nation faced it head on when Thomas Jefferson, serving as the ambassador to France, and John Adams, servicing as the ambassador to Britain, went to London to meet with Ambassador Abdrahaman, the Dey of Tripoli's ambassador to Britain. Of course they met with Abdrahaman to negotiate a peace treaty, but keep in mind that in Islam, the only peace is submission to Islam.

Islam requires jizya under Sharia law, you know that alleged "harmless law" they want to impose here in the West. Jizya is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria. The tax is and was to be levied on able-bodied adult males of military age and affording power. So as Adams and Jefferson met, they found out the price of peace was quite expensive.

Gary DeMar writes,
If America wanted "temporary peace," a one-year guarantee, it would cost $66,000 plus a 10% commission. "Everlasting peace" was a bargain at $160,000 plus the obligatory commission. This only applied to Tripoli. Other Muslim nations would also have to be paid. The amount came to $1.3 million. But there was no assurance that the treaties would be honored. In vain, Jefferson and Adams tried to argue that America was not at war with Tripoli. In what way had the U.S provoked the Muslims, they asked? Ambassador Abdrahaman went on to explain "the finer points of Islamic jihad" to the Koranically challenged Jefferson and Adams.

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Jefferson then wrote a letter to John Jay that read:
"The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."


This is loosely based upon the Qur'an's teaching from Surah 47:4 which reads,
"Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."


Though the US, along with Great Britain and France had paid a "tribute" for protection against piracy, once Tripoli increased the tribute following Jefferson becoming President, he refused to pay them the increase, though he did continue to pay until the end of his presidency. Tripoli then declared war on the United States on May 10, 1801. This was the beginning of the First Barbary War.

With US merchant ships being attacked and Americans being kidnapped he finally issued letters of marque and reprisal, which sent a groups of privately owned war ships, that were approved by the government, to make war against the Barbary Pirates. He utilized this constitutional measure, which we are not using today.
In doing this he sent for the "privateers," as they were referred to. The privately owned frigates USS Philadelphia, USS President, and the USS Essex, along with the schooner USS Enterprise was America's first navy to cross the Atlantic. Others would also join and see action as well.

Ultimately, in 1805 United States Marines crossed the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forced the surrender of Tripoli and free those Americans that had been kidnapped and were made slaves.

Indeed it matters not how old a text is when it is read and acted upon today.

Once you understand history and realize Islam is not a religion, but a theocracy and terrorist cult that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination, the better for all so we can correctly deal with this cancer.

to ALL Muslims

JESUS In the Qur'an

According to your Qur'an the following "favors" are given exclusively to JESUS.
1. Born of a Virgin, Holy without sin (Qur'an 3:45-47)
2. Eludes death ascends to Heaven (Qur'an 4:157)
3. Satan had no Power over JESUS (V4, Book 54 No 506)
4. Allah strengthens JESUS with the HOLY SPIRIT (Qur'an 2:87)
5. Allah gives JESUS the Ingil (Gospel) (Qur'an 5:46)
6. Only Allah has the Power to create life...JESUS is given the same Power as Allah;) to create life (Qur'an 5:110)
7. Allah gives JESUS (not Moses or Abraham or Muhammad)...but JESUS the privilege of returning to earth in the last days "Hour of JUDGMENT" (Qur'an 43:61)



1. Allah / Satan and Mohammad will say to you I told you JESUS was SINLESS (only GOD is SINLESS).
2. Allah / Satan and Mohammad will say to you I told you JESUS was born of the Virgin Mary and...(Who was HIS FATHER?) you should have figured it out HE was the SON of GOD.
3. Allah / Satan and Mohammad will say to you I told you I was the DECEIVER (Surah 3:54, Surah 7:99, Surah 27:50).
4. Allah / Satan and Mohammad will say to you I told you to listen to CHRISTIANS why didn't you? and will LAUGH at you burning in HELL. Go read your Sura 10:94, Sura 21:7 both say if you have any Questions go to the people of the BOOK (BIBLE) Sura 29:46 is even better it tells you DO NOT ARGUE with the CHRISTIANS why? Cause we have been given the TORAH & the GOSPELS as a sign for you † Sura 4:136 it's even better oh ye Muslims go that which has been given to you from before those scriptures (the BIBLE) they are signs for you!! So here you go from your own Quran, listen to CHRISTIANS. Mohammad did say " if anyone changes his islamic religion KILL him " (bukhari hadith, volume 9:57) Good Luck getting out of evil ISLAM

Two interesting stats with regards to the islamic political system:

The total GDP of the entire musloid world, excluding petroleum, from Morocco to Bangladesh (excluding Indonesia) is LESS than the GDP of the American state of Georgia. What this means is that the islamic political system, like its younger sibling Marxism, causes people to sit around and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

And in a related vein, there are more books translated each year into Modern Greek, which is spoken ONLY in Greece and Cyprus (combined population of just over 12 million people) than there are books published, both translations and original works, in Arabic, which is spoken in 26 nations with at least 420 million mother-tongue speakers, and is the official language of the musloid political system, which has under its jackboot some 1.2 billion souls.

So no, the lack of economic productivity among musloids is NOT because they are all sitting around reading and cultivating their intellects.

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He's still not gonna get it.

The veil, it's thick and wide...

That is awesome.

And rofl at "musloids", I am totally liberating that.

Jesus - after his alleged resurrection - commanded that the Gentiles were beholden to obey all that the Jewish disciples were to obey (Matthew 28:19-20). Is Peter or Paul greater than Jesus, that they could countermand what Jesus originally commanded?

Either 1. Peter and Paul are confused and mistaken or 2. Peter and Paul maliciously usurped Christianity (Jesus couldn't manage his own apostles), or 3. Jesus contradicts himself by giving different instructions regarding Gentiles after his original instructions in Matthew 28:19 (Jesus is confused and can potentially cancel any promise at any time), or 4. the texts and/or translations are untrustworthy (Jesus could not preserve his own scriptures perfectly).

Whichever way it is, this does not shed a positive light on Christianity.

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There's nothing to "get" except the fact that Christ commands his servants to slay those who refuse him. Even Matthew Henry recognizes that. I said nothing more than what Matthew Henry did.

Matt 28:19

19“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Aw! You don't even know what Christ commanded! Did you read the Gospel? Of course not - your error is plain to see. You are making shit up and expect us to not know the facts!

You are in error! You know not the teachings of Christ.

Do you work for CNN?

I was hoping for a battle of wits but you appear to be unarmed.

In Christ Alone


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Nope, it is plain to all to see that YOU are the one in error. What part of "teaching them [the nations] to observe [the Greek means "obey"] all that I commanded you [the Jewish disciples]" do you not understand?

No, but I suspect you might!

If he reigns, then he's doing a piss poor job in the world.