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Being a nice guy can actually make you look like an asshole

 
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Being a nice guy can actually make you look like an asshole
I admit, I'm a nice guy. I'm the kind of guy that is friendly to everyone, I treat everyone with respect. I am a people pleaser and will please others before myself. I put others above myself because I feel that in doing so, it'll make me friends.

I'm too nice, to the point that I'm scared to say no. In my mind, the word "no" or saying "I can't" is associated with being negative, so I fear saying either of those will make people mad. So I tend to always say yes, because in that moment saying yes, makes the other person happy even though in reality, saying yet wasn't an option and I'd end up having to back out of whatever I said yes to.

That leads me to this... being a nice guy can make you look like an asshole. Because I'm scared to say no, I say yes to doing this or that even though I know I can't commit to doing it. In the end, I'm the asshole because I said yes, and didn't live up to that commitment.

It's entirely my fault, because saying no scares the crap out of me because I fear making someone upset. But at the same time, saying yes to something and then not following through makes me look even worse.

Maybe I'm just a horrible person, I don't know. Because of this, two of my best friends are pissed at me, and it is entirely my fault for being a "yes" man. Depression this time of year sucks, but sucks even worse when my best friends are pissed at me because of my own problem.

What sucks, it's hard to explain to them how my brain ticks... it's not an excuse, it's just how my brain works. It sucks.
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Sorry for rambling, I'm just depressed by what's going on. I apologized to my friends, but that isn't enough. I know it's not enough. I'm stupid for being too nice, afraid to say no, so I say yes to certain things. It sucks, almost like a disability, in a not really kind of way. maybe a mental disability. I don't know.
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I'm a complete asshole and I actually look like an asshole.
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I suffer from the same thing mate lol

When i do have the balls to say no i am made out to feel an asshole also and i feel guilty - even with people i dont really like or i would say are not friends like landlords etc
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I suffer from the same thing mate lol

When i do have the balls to say no i am made out to feel an asshole also and i feel guilty - even with people i dont really like or i would say are not friends like landlords etc
 Quoting: curry nosher


Same here, the few times I've been able to say no it was like I was the worst person on the face of the planet. And those times stick with me, and how horrible I felt... so I always just say yes because I fear feeling like I did those few times when I did say no.
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Sorry for rambling, I'm just depressed by what's going on. I apologized to my friends, but that isn't enough. I know it's not enough. I'm stupid for being too nice, afraid to say no, so I say yes to certain things. It sucks, almost like a disability, in a not really kind of way. maybe a mental disability. I don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71023703


You seem sincere and earnest. You are probably young.

If you are a child of divorce and were raised by a single mom you are lacking a male role model who will teach you how to not be a pussy and while not being an asshole. That's a tough one; I don't know the cure except you've got to get in touch with your masculine side and stop listening to women and their endless (and often contradictory) needs.

It's all a matter of balance. You don't want to put up with ripoffs and having people walk all over you; on the other hand, you don't want to be a completely amoral bastard either. It's hard to gage, often.

I generally avoid people other than a few close friends. I think humans come into this world basically good but life fucks us all up one way or another.
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Sorry for rambling, I'm just depressed by what's going on. I apologized to my friends, but that isn't enough. I know it's not enough. I'm stupid for being too nice, afraid to say no, so I say yes to certain things. It sucks, almost like a disability, in a not really kind of way. maybe a mental disability. I don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71023703


OP, nice guys say no when they mean no and yea when they mean yes.

Just stop trying to get affirmation and try to be a man of your word.
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12/20/2015 05:39 AM
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12/20/2015 05:40 AM
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You have every right OP to say no to people. Just as they do to you. Start out on small things and work your way up.
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12/20/2015 05:43 AM
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fk off cokhead
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12/20/2015 05:45 AM
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You've summed this up incorrectly Op. You are neither a 'nice guy' or a 'horrible person'.

You are a weak man.

Good news is that you can work on changing this if you choose to do so.
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12/20/2015 05:52 AM
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I am the nicest ASSHOLE you will ever meet....and I often tell people just that!! hf
Lets go Brandon!!

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12/20/2015 05:53 AM
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Before you answer a question/request THINK its not hard to do slow down and think.
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12/20/2015 05:56 AM
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Sorry for rambling, I'm just depressed by what's going on. I apologized to my friends, but that isn't enough. I know it's not enough. I'm stupid for being too nice, afraid to say no, so I say yes to certain things. It sucks, almost like a disability, in a not really kind of way. maybe a mental disability. I don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71023703


ano1 For crying out loud if you don't wanna do then say no as softly as you can and that's an end of it. What's with people nowadays.
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The answer to your delimma is to respond by saying what buys you time -
"Let me think about it."
That gives you time to come up with a good reason to say no.

I usually respond by saying
"You have a right to ask and I have a right to say no - let me think about it." Then later I say no - because of such and such. If someone gets mad at me for saying no too bad.

Of course I don't have many friends but the friends i do have respect me and don't walk on me.

Most of the time people that ask you to do them favors have no problem saying no when you ask them to do you a favor. These people are usually ego - centric. I steer clear of these types as they think the world revolves around them and they are users.
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12/20/2015 07:34 AM
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Never mind what the world thinks.
You must say no sometimes or your yes is meaningless.

I live on the same trap.
And still struggle with saying no.

I have 4 vacation days left out of 10 for this calendar year.
I can't permit myself the luxury of taking them because of my slave-driving work ethic.

Being a nice guy will actually kill you if you fall in with the wrong people or woman.
But at least you'll die with integrity.
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12/20/2015 07:42 AM
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lol pussi
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12/20/2015 09:13 AM
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lol pussi
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Unmentionable ire suppresed for this particular one, and a sudden pain to be expressed in their gut about an hour from now. Only for three minutes.
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Sorry for rambling, I'm just depressed by what's going on. I apologized to my friends, but that isn't enough. I know it's not enough. I'm stupid for being too nice, afraid to say no, so I say yes to certain things. It sucks, almost like a disability, in a not really kind of way. maybe a mental disability. I don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71023703


:ano1: For crying out loud if you don't wanna do then say no as softly as you can and that's an end of it. What's with people nowadays.
 Quoting: Judethz


Jews are always at the root of things like this. You know it. I know it.
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12/20/2015 09:19 AM
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Need more details. What did you flake out on?
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12/20/2015 09:26 AM
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Did you say yes to taking it up the poop chute?
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12/20/2015 09:29 AM
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Need more details. What did you flake out on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70240107

Are you deaf and daft?
He's being sawn in half for his integrity's sake.

Dammitall.
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I'm a complete asshole and I actually look like an asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71064102


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12/20/2015 09:58 AM
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OP, being truthful and trustworthy is much more important than being nice. You are not supposed to be an entertainer.
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12/20/2015 10:06 AM
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I'm a complete asshole and I actually look like an asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71064102


puckered?
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better take a closer look at the American Indian."

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12/20/2015 10:09 AM
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OP, being truthful and trustworthy is much more important than being nice. You are not supposed to be an entertainer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14197279

Exactamundo.
One of the Sex Pistols was "invited"
to do something the major media wanted him to do, and he sent a fairly scathing letter back, that "he
was NOT their monkey to perform at request, so f right off with the lot of you".
An extreme example, but your own value and values are incalculable.

Make it worth all or nothing.
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12/20/2015 10:24 AM
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Re: Being a nice guy can actually make you look like an asshole
Nice guys are usually self proclaimed and they want to please people to feel good about them selves -

Here is the deal - life is difficult and sometimes you have to do and say things that are not going to please others - like NO.

I suggest you spend some time looking online for some information on assertiveness because you need to grow some.
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12/20/2015 11:44 AM
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Nice guys proclaim nothing, (at -130 db... "Moran!").
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12/20/2015 11:47 AM
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Sorry, but it sounds like you have Autism.
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12/20/2015 11:59 AM
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Sorry, but it sounds like you have Autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70923649
Yeah, it's a bitch to give a fuck about your ass, too.
Love ya bud, here's a good old-fashioned sock in the arm to wake you up.
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