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Message Subject All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost complete at present
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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
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If we go to Revelation 12:3 - we discover the beast of end times is satan - who is a major player, along with the antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71651503


Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns...

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

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Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast..and it had ten horns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71658096


In order to understand this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


We have to learn more about the beast and where he originated from.

To do this we need to start at Daniel 2.

Here we have a large statue that represents all the empires up to and including the beasts'.

I won't go into Daniel 2, but will merely specify that this beast is the feet of the statue with 10 toes.

The feet we are told are the last kingdom on this earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71672278


Most bible experts agree the feet are and extension of the Roman empire - portrayed as the legs on the statue (Daniel 2).

From this verse in Daniel many extrapolate that the feet are a revival of the Roman empire:

Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

Meaning - the people of the prince WHO IS TO COME, are the Roman people, therefore, the prince who is to come will be Roman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71678786


So now we've answered the first part of this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was - was the Roman empire and the beast that is not (Roman empire no longer in existence, as it was when the temple was destroyed in 70AD).

There are many who believe it's the Ottoman Empire. However, it didn't exist until many centuries later. Besides there's been no temple since 70AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71697522



Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
 
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