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Message Subject All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost complete at present
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Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
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Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns...

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

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Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast..and it had ten horns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71658096


In order to understand this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


We have to learn more about the beast and where he originated from.

To do this we need to start at Daniel 2.

Here we have a large statue that represents all the empires up to and including the beasts'.

I won't go into Daniel 2, but will merely specify that this beast is the feet of the statue with 10 toes.

The feet we are told are the last kingdom on this earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71672278


Most bible experts agree the feet are and extension of the Roman empire - portrayed as the legs on the statue (Daniel 2).

From this verse in Daniel many extrapolate that the feet are a revival of the Roman empire:

Daniel 9:26 and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

Meaning - the people of the prince WHO IS TO COME, are the Roman people, therefore, the prince who is to come will be Roman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71678786


So now we've answered the first part of this verse:

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was - was the Roman empire and the beast that is not (Roman empire no longer in existence, as it was when the temple was destroyed in 70AD).

There are many who believe it's the Ottoman Empire. However, it didn't exist until many centuries later. Besides there's been no temple since 70AD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71697522



Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The last part of this verse mostly delves into speculation.

We know who is the eighth, but the seventh kingdom/king is anybodies guess.

One thing for sure is satan is the god of this earth during the period between the 6th and last.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71703095



That's what is troubling. God has murdered millions of people throughout the OLD TESTAMENT, mostly his chosen ones the house of 12 tribe Israel.

He used Nebuchadnezzar wo he called his "servant" to butcher thousands of his people that were being bad as stiffnecked.

Then he kills his servant Nebuchadnezzar afterwards. I got a news flash how about killing and murdering people yourself? You got famine, disease, pestilence, and your Angels to kill for you so WTF make or entice man to do your evil deeds for you?

I mean don't they have enough sins weighing on top of their own heads by their own deeds? But noooo you enlist them to do your dirty work which puts them into even deeper levels of Hellfire. Odd.

Remember Aaron who was Moses real brother? Well God YHVH murdered his 2 sons who were even priests. Right from the Ark he killed em with some kind of energy beam.

Poor Aaron was not even allowed to mourn in the typical fashion of that era by renting (tearing) his cloths, wailing and putting ashes on his head. Sad.

Then Abraham almost killed his own son for what a test? A game? Sorry but you just don't play like that if you LOVE your creation. Manipulation and mid games are not cool.

IE: From the god murders dot com page
Prosecutor: But Judge, there are so many more!

Judge (gavel): This court orders you to sum up!

Prosecutor: But judge, there are so many more Bible C&Vs remaining that also depict "The God Murders". One written testimony submitted: 399,933 Human Beings were directly murdered by the Biblical God plus 2,017,956 murdered by God’s followers which equals 2,417,889 plus unknown millions of Human Beings murdered by God.

How many millions of Egypt's firstborn did one of God's Death-Angles murder on God's orders? God's One of God's Death-Angel also murdered 1 million Ethiopians, 500,000 Israelis and probably millions, including the whole world, at the time of Noah. God murdered every man, woman and child in over 60 entire cities at the time of Moses and Joshua!

I request more time. Some writers have estimated God's murders to be over 25 million within the pages of the Bible...

Look if I was a potential life partner for you and I killed millions of people and I told YOU that I would kill you too if you did not love me, what would that make me? A bully.

Ezekiel 23:36-47 God said to me: Hack them to pieces and slay their sons and daughters. Catholic

Ezekiel 25 God said: I will stretch out My hand against you. I will execute great vengeance on them, punishing them furiously. They shall know I am God when I wreak My vengeance on them. Her daughters shall be slaughtered on the mainland by the sword; thus they shall know I am God. I bring King Nebuchadnezzar against Tyre and he shall slay your daughters. He will slay your people and pull your pillars to the ground. Never shall you rebuild. God has spoken. I will thrust you down with those in the pit. I will make you dwell in the nether lands, in the everlasting ruins, so you may never return to take your place in the land of the living. I’ll make you a devastation. You shall be no more. You’ll be sought, but never found again, so said God.

Ezekiel 20:25 God said: I gave them statutes and ordinances that were not good so they could not live.

Ezekiel 9:4-10 God said: Pass through Jerusalem. Mark an X (Catholic, actually a T / Tau) on the forehead who complain of abominations practiced in it. Do not look at them with pity or show any mercy. Slay utterly old and young, both maids, little children and women. Wipe them out. Do not touch any marked with the X. Defile the temple. Fill the court with the murdered. I (Ezekiel) cried out: God, will you destroy all that is left in Israel? God said: I will not show any mercy.
Ezekiel 5:10-1 God said: Fathers shall eat sons, sons shall eat fathers. I’ll inflict punishment on you and scatter you in every direction.

Nuff said.

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