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The Word of the Lord came to Jeremiah

 
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
 Quoting: Monotheism


So angels can forgive?
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


its says messenger HUMAN messenger, probably speaking about Joshua if I am not mistaken.

what passage is it?
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Exodus 23, and its not Joshua, or any human.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
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Jeremiah 33:14 Behold the days are coming says the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah:

Jeremiah 33:15 In those days and at that time I will cause to grow up to David a Branch of righteousness; He shall execute judgement and righteousness in the earth.

Jeremiah 33:16 In those days Judah will be saved. And Jerusalem will dwell safely. And this is the name by which she will be called:
THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
 Quoting: bigD111


good,,, you agree its not jesus, because Judah was laid waste after jesus.
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Do you know why He says I will cause to grow up to David? The Branch is the 144,000. I was told they are all descendants of David by the Holy Spirit.
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you are a little stretching it.
it simply says G-d will elevate someone who is from the seed of David.
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I am just passing on what I was told.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.

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good,,, you agree its not jesus, because Judah was laid waste after jesus.
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Do you know why He says I will cause to grow up to David? The Branch is the 144,000. I was told they are all descendants of David by the Holy Spirit.
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you are a little stretching it.
it simply says G-d will elevate someone who is from the seed of David.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71195016


I am just passing on what I was told.
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no wonder, your fathers passed on lies.

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Jer 16:19
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


its says messenger HUMAN messenger, probably speaking about Joshua if I am not mistaken.

what passage is it?
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Exodus 23, and its not Joshua, or any human.
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its Joshua, he brought the Israelites into Israel.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


its says messenger HUMAN messenger, probably speaking about Joshua if I am not mistaken.

what passage is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71195016


Exodus 23, and its not Joshua, or any human.
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its Joshua, he brought the Israelites into Israel.
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LOL, good one. So thats what they teach in rabbi school.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
 Quoting: Monotheism


So angels can forgive?
 Quoting: puredreaming


A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
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Do you know why He says I will cause to grow up to David? The Branch is the 144,000. I was told they are all descendants of David by the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: bigD111


you are a little stretching it.
it simply says G-d will elevate someone who is from the seed of David.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71195016


I am just passing on what I was told.
 Quoting: bigD111


no wonder, your fathers passed on lies.

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Jer 16:19
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That verse doesn't apply to Israelites from the House of Israel false convert clown.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
 Quoting: Monotheism


So angels can forgive?
 Quoting: puredreaming


A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Now we are gonna parse words, rebellion is sin. This angel was more than a messenger, He was Israels guard and guide.
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Zechariah 12:7 The Lord will save the tnets of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah.

Zechariah 12:8 "In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them.

Zechariah 12:9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Do you know why He says I will cause to grow up to David? The Branch is the 144,000. I was told they are all descendants of David by the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: bigD111


you are a little stretching it.
it simply says G-d will elevate someone who is from the seed of David.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71195016


I am just passing on what I was told.
 Quoting: bigD111


no wonder, your fathers passed on lies.

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Jer 16:19
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You were addressing a REAL Israelite there. Unlike you.
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you are a little stretching it.
it simply says G-d will elevate someone who is from the seed of David.
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I am just passing on what I was told.
 Quoting: bigD111


no wonder, your fathers passed on lies.

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Jer 16:19
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That verse doesn't apply to Israelites from the House of Israel false convert clown.
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it applies to wannabes like you.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.
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Can someone that it not God forgive, answer your own damn question, hypocrite. You people really are the worst hypocrites on the planet. Disgusting.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
 Quoting: Monotheism


So angels can forgive?
 Quoting: puredreaming


A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


why do you go down to her level of stupidity?

its not even speaking about an angel, but a human - Joshua.
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See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.

Can angels forgive, or is this angel someone much closer to God?
 Quoting: puredreaming


By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Can someone that it not God forgive, answer your own damn question, hypocrite. You people really are the worst hypocrites on the planet. Disgusting.
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Is that a personal attack? Maybe its just possible this particular angel can forgive sin, because He is God.
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Angel literally means messenger. Literally! The messenger of YHWH is not YHWH Himself. Obviously. YHWH's name was in the messenger, he carries out YHWH's will because it was his purpose.
 Quoting: Monotheism


So angels can forgive?
 Quoting: puredreaming


A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Now we are gonna parse words, rebellion is sin. This angel was more than a messenger, He was Israels guard and guide.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Like you have a clue about what sin is.

2 Samuel 12:13
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against YHWH." Nathan replied, "YHWH has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

Oh look, Nathan the prophet is God too.
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By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Can someone that it not God forgive, answer your own damn question, hypocrite. You people really are the worst hypocrites on the planet. Disgusting.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Is that a personal attack? Maybe its just possible this particular angel can forgive sin, because He is God.
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lol, you are so defending a lie, like a kid making up invisible ghosts that ate the pie while his mouth is covered with pudding.
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This person Jeremiah is talking with reaches out and touches him.


I think people with half a brain can understand that you desperately need a brain.

jeremiah is having a conversation with the LORD through words, not conversation with a word that touched his mouth.

Christians... liars.


Wow, an Israeli Jew that despises Christians...never would've guessed. They're just such wonderful people helping others in this world. Being good neighbors to the Palestinians by stealing their land, badmouthing the only religion that kept them from total annihilation. These must be the Chosen people of God, not people just pretending to be.
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The Mormons Use the NT to prove there claims .. Do you accept mormons PD ?
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So angels can forgive?
 Quoting: puredreaming


A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Now we are gonna parse words, rebellion is sin. This angel was more than a messenger, He was Israels guard and guide.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Like you have a clue about what sin is.

2 Samuel 12:13
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against YHWH." Nathan replied, "YHWH has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

Oh look, Nathan the prophet is God too.
 Quoting: Monotheism


More personal attacks. We were discussing an angel. Why don't you explain to me why Jacob could see Gods face and live, and Moses would die if he saw Gods face.

Its earlier in the thread, and Israel couldnt answer except call me a liar.
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I am just passing on what I was told.
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no wonder, your fathers passed on lies.

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Jer 16:19
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That verse doesn't apply to Israelites from the House of Israel false convert clown.
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it applies to wannabes like you.
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lol how rich of the Yeminite Ishmaelite wannabe false convert. When did your family move to Yemen? Answer, they didn't move, they always came from there. And you have zero genealogies to prove otherwise unlike God's real chosen people. Unlike me. Gentiles like you never did keep genealogies tracing back to the Fathers like we do. Fail. You are soon to get the biggest surprise of your life when you are exposed as the charlatans you so clearly are.
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By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Can someone that it not God forgive, answer your own damn question, hypocrite. You people really are the worst hypocrites on the planet. Disgusting.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Is that a personal attack? Maybe its just possible this particular angel can forgive sin, because He is God.
 Quoting: puredreaming


It says nothing of forgiving sins, it says he won't forgive their rebellion meaning he will kill them all if they don't respect his holy Authority.
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4The word of the Lord came to me, saying,

5“Before I formed you in the womb I knewa you,

before you were born I set you apart;

I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

6“Alas, Sovereign Lord,” I said, “I do not know how to speak; I am too young.”

Its interesting the word of the Lord comes to Jeremiah, and Jeremiah calls the word Sovereign Lord. Kinda like the Word in Johns Gospel.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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or maybe... the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah explaining that G-d formed Jeremiah in his mother's womb.

but Christians want to lie... because they are liars.
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And another dumb Jew, bashing the only region that kept them from annihilation. Someone give this theif a dollar quick so he'll go worship it and leave us alone.
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By that logic Jesus' disciples were Gods too.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” John 20:22-23
 Quoting: Monotheism


We are talking OT about an Angel, and I did not write passage, it seems pretty self explanatory. Read the entire thread.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Can someone that it not God forgive, answer your own damn question, hypocrite. You people really are the worst hypocrites on the planet. Disgusting.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Is that a personal attack? Maybe its just possible this particular angel can forgive sin, because He is God.
 Quoting: puredreaming


No, that's just some of the restrained disgust I feel about those actively seeking to pervert God's truth seeping out. A messenger is by definition not the one who's message the messenger is communicating.
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Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one who mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

Zechariah 12:11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Meggido.

Zechariah 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself; the family of the house of David by itself; and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves;

Okay, whom did they pierce? Who will they mourn for? I want to hear the Jewish explanation of this!
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A messenger delivers a message, that is what a messenger does; acts on behalf of the one that sent him. And the passage doesn't say forgive sin, it says forgive rebellion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Now we are gonna parse words, rebellion is sin. This angel was more than a messenger, He was Israels guard and guide.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Like you have a clue about what sin is.

2 Samuel 12:13
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against YHWH." Nathan replied, "YHWH has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

Oh look, Nathan the prophet is God too.
 Quoting: Monotheism


More personal attacks. We were discussing an angel. Why don't you explain to me why Jacob could see Gods face and live, and Moses would die if he saw Gods face.

Its earlier in the thread, and Israel couldnt answer except call me a liar.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Jacob saw an angel.
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Now we are gonna parse words, rebellion is sin. This angel was more than a messenger, He was Israels guard and guide.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Like you have a clue about what sin is.

2 Samuel 12:13
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against YHWH." Nathan replied, "YHWH has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

Oh look, Nathan the prophet is God too.
 Quoting: Monotheism


More personal attacks. We were discussing an angel. Why don't you explain to me why Jacob could see Gods face and live, and Moses would die if he saw Gods face.

Its earlier in the thread, and Israel couldnt answer except call me a liar.
 Quoting: puredreaming


Jacob saw an angel.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Jacob called him God.





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