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An Intelligent Conversation About Flat Earth!!!
Ok This is not a thread to tell us how big your telescope is or Your uncle is Neil Armstrong or you have been to Venus meditating to Ariana Grande Music.

I Want to know are these videos possible on a Earth that is 25000 miles around. What is the math equation for curvature of earth. I have been told

8" x mile square

Is this not true..please show me the correct equation if this is wrong














At what Mile do these Ships drop below the Horizon? I mean I was taught in school that back in the day people watched the bottom of the boat disappear then the sails and Chris went to Queen of Spain and asked for funding because he knew the earth was round and she believed it was flat. Matter of fact I remember hearing in school lots of people believed the world was flat and there was a edge. Thats a crude description but what I remember from elementary school.

Looking forward to hearing from everyone

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I myself have looked out across the Gulf and watched a ship disappear then picked up binoculars and looked through and the ship reappeared.
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No one can explain in layman's terms how to measure the horizon drop?

Is

8" x mile square

correct?
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F#ck off.
Peddle your shite elsewhere.
Research on the web and if you do not come to the conclusion that the flat earth theory is a total psy-op then you should most likely consider throwing yourself off a cliff onto some sharp rocks.

F#cking flat earth, honestly. I mean come on. Come on.
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No one can explain in layman's terms how to measure the horizon drop?

Is

8" x mile square

correct?
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F#ck off.
Peddle your shite elsewhere.
Research on the web and if you do not come to the conclusion that the flat earth theory is a total psy-op then you should most likely consider throwing yourself off a cliff onto some sharp rocks.

F#cking flat earth, honestly. I mean come on. Come on.
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I said "intelligent Conversation" but thanks for posting
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No one can explain in layman's terms how to measure the horizon drop?

Is

8" x mile square

correct?
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yes
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Can you show me a website where that information might be?
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F#ck off.
Peddle your shite elsewhere.
Research on the web and if you do not come to the conclusion that the flat earth theory is a total psy-op then you should most likely consider throwing yourself off a cliff onto some sharp rocks.

F#cking flat earth, honestly. I mean come on. Come on.
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I said "intelligent Conversation" but thanks for posting
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I could not have an intelligent conversation with someone who is not able to find the information he/she requires using the web but comes here and asks a bunch of people who themselves (if they were truly honest with themselves) do not know what to believe anymore.

Also, if i wanted to have a conversation with a vegetable i would have bought one on the market.
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F#ck off.
Peddle your shite elsewhere.
Research on the web and if you do not come to the conclusion that the flat earth theory is a total psy-op then you should most likely consider throwing yourself off a cliff onto some sharp rocks.

F#cking flat earth, honestly. I mean come on. Come on.
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I said "intelligent Conversation" but thanks for posting
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I could not have an intelligent conversation with someone who is not able to find the information he/she requires using the web but comes here and asks a bunch of people who themselves (if they were truly honest with themselves) do not know what to believe anymore.

Also, if i wanted to have a conversation with a vegetable i would have bought one on the market.
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Again thanks for responding ...Again I said "intelligent". I am only asking questions. You seem to not have the answers.
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You can't have an intelligent conversation about the flat earth theory.

If you had even a flea's intelligence you'd know the earth is a globe.
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You can't have an intelligent conversation about the flat earth theory.

If you had even a flea's intelligence you'd know the earth is a globe.
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Again thanks for responding...I was just wondering if the equation

8" x mile square

is correct on horizon drop on a globe
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F#ck off.
Peddle your shite elsewhere.
Research on the web and if you do not come to the conclusion that the flat earth theory is a total psy-op then you should most likely consider throwing yourself off a cliff onto some sharp rocks.

F#cking flat earth, honestly. I mean come on. Come on.
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I said "intelligent Conversation" but thanks for posting
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I could not have an intelligent conversation with someone who is not able to find the information he/she requires using the web but comes here and asks a bunch of people who themselves (if they were truly honest with themselves) do not know what to believe anymore.

Also, if i wanted to have a conversation with a vegetable i would have bought one on the market.
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Again thanks for responding ...Again I said "intelligent". I am only asking questions. You seem to not have the answers.
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You seem to be a person who has a mission.
That mission is to try to make people believe that the earth is flat.
I can smell your type anywhere because you do not know with whom you are conversing with and blissfully unaware how many mistakes you made, and in such a short time.



AS to me having answers. I have lots and lots but not for you.




You sir, are a TOOL and i bid you farewell.
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dude...these are not even the best videos. Go to youtube and search flight instructor and flat earth; land surveyer and flat earth, us missile instructor and flat earth [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

The videos by MarkkSargent are the best because he only has professionals on who are/were very skeptical and have done their own professional tests using their equipment, including IR on the high seas -- at night!!
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No one can explain in layman's terms how to measure the horizon drop?

Is

8" x mile square

correct?
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yes
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Can you show me a website where that information might be?
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listen to the youtube videos of markksargent and eric dubay's wesbite.

Marks professional's videos on flat earth first though...
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If you assume the 8" per mile is accurate, it would still be difficult to observe this in a distant ship.

Let's assume you are 5' 6" tall and are standing on the beach a couple of feet above sea level. Your point of observation (your eyes) is roughly 7' or 84" above sea level. This means that the ship would have to be 10 1/2 miles (84" divided by 8) out to sea before the earth's curvature even began to obscure the hull of the ship. On a large ship (in calm seas) you probably wouldn't even notice until about 10 feet of the bottom of the ship was no longer visible. This would require the ship to be over 25 miles away from you. If there are waves even only a few feet high, You could add another 4.5 miles to the distance required before you would be able to notice the difference, at least when the ship was on the crest of a wave.
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No one can explain in layman's terms how to measure the horizon drop?

Is

8" x mile square

correct?
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No, it isn't correct.

Google, if you have any intelligence, is your friend.

Do your own research.
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I said "intelligent Conversation" but thanks for posting
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I could not have an intelligent conversation with someone who is not able to find the information he/she requires using the web but comes here and asks a bunch of people who themselves (if they were truly honest with themselves) do not know what to believe anymore.

Also, if i wanted to have a conversation with a vegetable i would have bought one on the market.
 Quoting: 4711 71304142


Again thanks for responding ...Again I said "intelligent". I am only asking questions. You seem to not have the answers.
 Quoting: Oldboy


You seem to be a person who has a mission.
That mission is to try to make people believe that the earth is flat.
I can smell your type anywhere because you do not know with whom you are conversing with and blissfully unaware how many mistakes you made, and in such a short time.



AS to me having answers. I have lots and lots but not for you.




You sir, are a TOOL and i bid you farewell.
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4711 wiener schnitzle...if you don't want to read flat earth threads, don't open them. Move on. No-one is trying to convince you.
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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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If you assume the 8" per mile is accurate, it would still be difficult to observe this in a distant ship.

Let's assume you are 5' 6" tall and are standing on the beach a couple of feet above sea level. Your point of observation (your eyes) is roughly 7' or 84" above sea level. This means that the ship would have to be 10 1/2 miles (84" divided by 8) out to sea before the earth's curvature even began to obscure the hull of the ship. On a large ship (in calm seas) you probably wouldn't even notice until about 10 feet of the bottom of the ship was no longer visible. This would require the ship to be over 25 miles away from you. If there are waves even only a few feet high, You could add another 4.5 miles to the distance required before you would be able to notice the difference, at least when the ship was on the crest of a wave.
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8" x Mile Squared not 8" x Mile
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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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is it squared though? Because we are not on a slope we are curved...thats what I have been told it is squared mile x 8".

Thanks for your response it is greatly appreciated!

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I could not have an intelligent conversation with someone who is not able to find the information he/she requires using the web but comes here and asks a bunch of people who themselves (if they were truly honest with themselves) do not know what to believe anymore.

Also, if i wanted to have a conversation with a vegetable i would have bought one on the market.
 Quoting: 4711 71304142


Again thanks for responding ...Again I said "intelligent". I am only asking questions. You seem to not have the answers.
 Quoting: Oldboy


You seem to be a person who has a mission.
That mission is to try to make people believe that the earth is flat.
I can smell your type anywhere because you do not know with whom you are conversing with and blissfully unaware how many mistakes you made, and in such a short time.



AS to me having answers. I have lots and lots but not for you.




You sir, are a TOOL and i bid you farewell.
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4711 wiener schnitzle...if you don't want to read flat earth threads, don't open them. Move on. No-one is trying to convince you.
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Psy-op, you are dumb or a TOOL, wiener schnitzel is spelt wrong and you will find me everywhere there persists a level of stupid below 20 on the "how f#cking thick can people get" o-meter.
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assume you were at sea level on the high seas. The drop is roughly as you had originally posted. at 20 miles out, you would square it, then multiply by 8". then divide by 12 to get feet for 266 ft. at 30 miles, the declination would be 600 feet;

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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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This guys an idiot... it would look like a angle < if you use this equation.... like a giant alligator mouth growing wider and wider as the miles increase.... as we all know a BALL or SPHERE is not an alligator mouth, eventually it drops off into a 90º drop and then curves back on itself !

8' x mile™2 (little 2) squared... this gives you the proper equation to represent a progressively increasing downward curve (ala a basketball)

Ask away... I will answer ALL YOUR FLAT EARTH QUESTIONS.
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Again thanks for responding ...Again I said "intelligent". I am only asking questions. You seem to not have the answers.
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You seem to be a person who has a mission.
That mission is to try to make people believe that the earth is flat.
I can smell your type anywhere because you do not know with whom you are conversing with and blissfully unaware how many mistakes you made, and in such a short time.



AS to me having answers. I have lots and lots but not for you.




You sir, are a TOOL and i bid you farewell.
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4711 wiener schnitzle...if you don't want to read flat earth threads, don't open them. Move on. No-one is trying to convince you.
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Psy-op, you are dumb or a TOOL, wiener schnitzel is spelt wrong and you will find me everywhere there persists a level of stupid below 20 on the "how f#cking thick can people get" o-meter.
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you're not invited to participate, so move on sauerkraut...
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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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is it squared though? Because we are not on a slope we are curved...thats what I have been told it is squared mile x 8".

Thanks for your response it is greatly appreciated!
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No, it is not squared. There are other factors that come into play, such as light refraction that can affect the observation. If you are interested, this website explains it all pretty well:

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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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This guys an idiot... it would look like a angle < if you use this equation.... like a giant alligator mouth growing wider and wider as the miles increase.... as we all know a BALL or SPHERE is not an alligator mouth, eventually it drops off into a 90º drop and then curves back on itself !

8' x mile™2 (little 2) squared... this gives you the proper equation to represent a progressively increasing downward curve (ala a basketball)

Ask away... I will answer ALL YOUR FLAT EARTH QUESTIONS.
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Is there a website that will show this equation to be true.

8" x mile square

Not that I don't believe you...but I have looked and have not found much...I have been to flat earth websites and seen there but no where else.

Thanks again for responding.
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No intelligent conversation will occur from people with close minds .. Deeply indoctrinated by societal beliefs .. But I believe you op .. There are oddities that we ants can't explain .. And "they" won't tel us ...

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This is the question to ask for intelligent conversation. What is the proof the earth is a globe. Unacceptable answer is because I was told it was. Do your own observations and your own math and calculations and present them here





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