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Donald Trump: Don't hand federal lands to states

 
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OP; Teddy Roosevelt much?
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Please correct me if I am wrong or any of the other two last posters, Trumpeters.
Not saying he is the wrong choice, I just don't wear rose colored shades anymore
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then I would refer to that old saying, " If it sounds too good to be true"
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I wonder what he would say when informed
that the Oregon Wildlife refuge was never legally turned over to the feds.

Transfers like that are only lawful if the State legislature approves it.

That did not happen in the Mahleur Wildlife Refuge case.

Nope....

I feel pretty confident he could distinguish between right and wrong in this situation.

And, the fact that the mineral rights, for Uranium no less, were sold to a foreign nation that has not always been on friendly terms with our country (Russia)....
now I bet that would be of great interest to President Trump.

Clinton's involvement would be enough to get the whole mess investigated by him, no doubt.

She still has not been arrested or charged for her email crimes.
This injustice is flaunted in the face of every American each and every day for months now.

Sickening...

Seems like folks are trying hard to pigeon-hole Donald Trump as evil.

It isn't working!

Delightful!!

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Hey my lawyers can argue that my casino is good for the community and if like Trump says "you pay the right people" bing bing bong bong buyin up peoples land for the casino um I mean the good of the community. Trump 101
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
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I wonder what he would say when informed
that the Oregon Wildlife refuge was never legally turned over to the feds.

Transfers like that are only lawful if the State legislature approves it.

That did not happen in the Mahleur Wildlife Refuge case.

Nope....

I feel pretty confident he could distinguish between right and wrong in this situation.

And, the fact that the mineral rights, for Uranium no less, were sold to a foreign nation that has not always been on friendly terms with our country (Russia)....
now I bet that would be of great interest to President Trump.

Clinton's involvement would be enough to get the whole mess investigated by him, no doubt.

She still has not been arrested or charged for her email crimes.
This injustice is flaunted in the face of every American each and every day for months now.

Sickening...

Seems like folks are trying hard to pigeon-hole Donald Trump as evil.

It isn't working!

Delightful!!
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clappa
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Vote for Trump y'all
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Feds can own PORTS FORTS and 5 miles around the Capitol - according to the Constitution.
The rest is reserved for the states.

Our National Parks are being designated "National a heritage" sites and SOLD to the UN.

BLM Invented in the 1960s to steal land from the people
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Once Trump is educated on the matter, he will change his mind and choose the right thing. He's just not educated on it.
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Then maybe better for him to run next time around when he IS educated on this?
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I am a trumpeter and I have never worn rose colored glasses; which is how I can tell a career politician from a businessman who knows his country is tanking.

As for Trump being a tyrant. I do not see it that way. But I am not the kind of person who thinks being a pushover or keeping your mouth shout equals being nice.

Here is the first part of the NAFTA superhighway, just one small section, to get a taste of our future if we don't put a stop to it.

Imagine this going from Mexico to Canada, which is the plan. I have read that many states in the intended route are now undergoing "improvements" and not being told that it is really a future section of the superhighway.




This highway will make it easier on our lives when we no longer grow our own food or produce anything at all. Everything will be brought to us.
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Looks like Trump doesn't get it. States rights, Trump. Pull your head our of your ass.
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He specifically stated this because he is afraid of States in debt selling their land to private entities that then will privatize the land barring hunters. If you don't think this is a possibility then you are already behind the PETA agenda.
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Yea no kidding. Smokey mountains this week, vista estates as soon as tn or nc run low on funds. No thanks. Keep the parks and park service.
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cbs news? Really? I don't think so.
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Hey my lawyers can argue that my casino is good for the community and if like Trump says "you pay the right people" bing bing bong bong buyin up peoples land for the casino um I mean the good of the community. Trump 101
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
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window-licking trumptards going full retard in this thread

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Hey my lawyers can argue that my casino is good for the community and if like Trump says "you pay the right people" bing bing bong bong buyin up peoples land for the casino um I mean the good of the community. Trump 101
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
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Trump doesn't like stupid people.

And that woman is a very stupid person. Even her own family said so.

Maybe his tactics were bullying, but like I said, I'd LOVE to have her problems.
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I just typed up the best explanation for Eminent Domain I could muster and it didn't post
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Awe, did I hurt your feelings?

He sure does not mind using eminent domain to take your shit either! For 'public' use of coarse. jerkit
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He's NWO, your shit already belongs to the. Literally as well as figuratively
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Hey my lawyers can argue that my casino is good for the community and if like Trump says "you pay the right people" bing bing bong bong buyin up peoples land for the casino um I mean the good of the community. Trump 101
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68451235


Trump doesn't like stupid people.

And that woman is a very stupid person. Even her own family said so.

Maybe his tactics were bullying, but like I said, I'd LOVE to have her problems.
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stupid how exactly? because her home and memories and her free will to stay there was worth more than money?

if you think he was that bullying, then why on earth would you want someone like that for President?

you think he wont bully you?
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Hey my lawyers can argue that my casino is good for the community and if like Trump says "you pay the right people" bing bing bong bong buyin up peoples land for the casino um I mean the good of the community. Trump 101
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
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I don't think she was living in the home. I read she was living on the west coast. Anyhoo, she did sell the property. For $700,000. I have to laugh because I think she was holding out for more. But who knows? She did not retire in the home and she sold it.
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that woman was offered $5 million for her shitty house.

i'd like to have her problems.
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You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68451235


Trump doesn't like stupid people.

And that woman is a very stupid person. Even her own family said so.

Maybe his tactics were bullying, but like I said, I'd LOVE to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


stupid how exactly? because her home and memories and her free will to stay there was worth more than money?

if you think he was that bullying, then why on earth would you want someone like that for President?

you think he wont bully you?
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No, because I'm not a moron. If he wants to offer me $5 million for my house, bring it.

The woman also eventually sold the property herself, for $700k (lol), by the way. So much for your "she didn't want to leave behind her memories" argument.

Sissies won't last long in Trump World. Better check your ball sack to see if there's anything there.
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Awe, did I hurt your feelings?

He sure does not mind using eminent domain to take your shit either! For 'public' use of coarse. jerkit
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He's NWO, your shit already belongs to the. Literally as well as figuratively
 Quoting: RandomS


He is not NWO, you tool. I spelled this out to you yesterday. Everything he is for goes against NWO, starting with closed borders and new trade deals.

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If OP really cared about eminent domain, then she would realize that without Trump, the NAFTA plan (under different names now) will continue; and when it continues we will realize eminent domain on steroids when the planned NAFTA highway several football fields in width will cut our country in half.

If you are against NAFTA you have to vote Trump who is also against it.
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Well said! I also can't stress enough that Eminent Domain is in the Constitution! It is a granted right!

So when you are saying you are against Eminent Domain, you really are against parts of our Constitution. Funny coming from somebody who supports Rand Paul, a self proclaimed constitutionalist.
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Eminent Domain is Constitutional when the property is taken for a PUBLIC project, not a limo parking lot at a casino. That is a private project.
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If OP really cared about eminent domain, then she would realize that without Trump, the NAFTA plan (under different names now) will continue; and when it continues we will realize eminent domain on steroids when the planned NAFTA highway several football fields in width will cut our country in half.

If you are against NAFTA you have to vote Trump who is also against it.
 Quoting: parsley


Well said! I also can't stress enough that Eminent Domain is in the Constitution! It is a granted right!

So when you are saying you are against Eminent Domain, you really are against parts of our Constitution. Funny coming from somebody who supports Rand Paul, a self proclaimed constitutionalist.
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Eminent Domain is Constitutional when the property is taken for a PUBLIC project, not a limo parking lot at a casino. That is a private project.
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Exactly. And the woman refused the $5 million, later sold the property for $700,000.
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If OP really cared about eminent domain, then she would realize that without Trump, the NAFTA plan (under different names now) will continue; and when it continues we will realize eminent domain on steroids when the planned NAFTA highway several football fields in width will cut our country in half.

If you are against NAFTA you have to vote Trump who is also against it.
 Quoting: parsley


Well said! I also can't stress enough that Eminent Domain is in the Constitution! It is a granted right!

So when you are saying you are against Eminent Domain, you really are against parts of our Constitution. Funny coming from somebody who supports Rand Paul, a self proclaimed constitutionalist.
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Eminent Domain is Constitutional when the property is taken for a PUBLIC project, not a limo parking lot at a casino. That is a private project.
 Quoting: Georgia_dawg


I agree, and Trump lost in court. He probably just did it to piss the old bag off.

In the end, who cares?

Between Hillary getting people killed in the Middle East, Marco Rubio being a bought and paid for politician flip-flopping Manchurian Candidate, Ted Cruz being a Canadian con-man and Bernie's plan to spend $25 Trillion on college students living in momma's basement, who gives a shit about Trump trying to give some stubborn old hag $5 Million for her shitty house?
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Eminent Domain is something that I morally object to, yet see as a necessary evil. I find myself relating more to Jefferson’s views, who was strongly opposed to it, but also see the ideas expressed by the author of the Fifth Amendment.

The idea of Eminent Domain is strictly communism. This notion that the government can come in and redistribute or repurpose your land for the greater good of the people, regardless of your will is repulsive to me. Just imagine if you had a factory that was producing 300 dollar phones. But then the government comes in and says “ well for the betterment of all your fellow citizens, we are going to go ahead and outfit everyone here with one of your phones.” Now this is where Just Compensation is key. Because in Commie Land, they could give you 100 dollars for every 300 dollar phone you made or even give you absolutely nothing and seize the entire operations for the State.

But Just Compensation says that you must match market price. Now just imagine that I am the governing body of our group of 20 people on this thread. Everyone here gives me 5 dollars a month and I maintain the land. So one day, we have this chance to create a super highway that would unlock unforetold economic development to our small town of 20 people. So I get the 500 dollars of everyone’s money (because remember, the government doesn’t have any money, only money it has taken from you) and I march down to see this man and offer him the market value. The only problem is, the property needed is held by a guy who just won’t budge. When asked to cooperate, he says “Fuck off! My family has owned this house for generations and there is no monetary amount that you could give me to make me change my mind.” So is it right for the entire community’s future to be held hostage by someone who is being difficult? For opportunities to be missed and property values to be diminished because somebody doesn’t think the 500 being offered is reasonable?

Again, Market Value is crucial, because if I was a corrupt statesman, I could just tell him “Hey, hold out on the first two offers. I will hike it up to 1500 and we can split the difference with both of us coming out ahead.”

So this is why I see Eminent Domain as it stands now as a necessary evil but not something I like.
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You need to read the story from HER side of things. This was HER home that SHE and her husband bought and wanted to retire in by the ocean. She was harassed and bullied and HE SUED her for to take away HER PROPERTY away from her that she owned long time before he came along. Of course he lost in court....but just stress, money and time in court he put her though to get his way.

He is a land grabbing bully and using the presidency position to build his empire of Trump Towers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68451235


Trump doesn't like stupid people.

And that woman is a very stupid person. Even her own family said so.

Maybe his tactics were bullying, but like I said, I'd LOVE to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


stupid how exactly? because her home and memories and her free will to stay there was worth more than money?

if you think he was that bullying, then why on earth would you want someone like that for President?

you think he wont bully you?
 Quoting: Baloney


No, because I'm not a moron. If he wants to offer me $5 million for my house, bring it.

The woman also eventually sold the property herself, for $700k (lol), by the way. So much for your "she didn't want to leave behind her memories" argument.

Sissies won't last long in Trump World. Better check your ball sack to see if there's anything there.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


It doesn't matter if you think she was stupid for holding out. It was her property. And she got to sell it when SHE wanted to.

I don't care if she was a libtard or conservative. It was hers. And Trump was wrong for trying to use the force of government to take it away from her.
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I just typed up the best explanation for Eminent Domain I could muster and it didn't post
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I hate it when that happens. Hope you might retry. But understand if you don't. I have done this and just give up.


edit: see you have done it, thanks.

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The casino thing was theoretical. I am all for his stance on NAFTA. Why should foreign goods flood our states when the tariffs on our goods to those same foreign states are cost prohibitive, but at what cost for this to be done? Some of these entities own the majority of our debt. What will be Trumps leverage? Right now our commons are being used as leverage.
What else is there? So stands to reason that is what Trump will use. So yeah you will still get to hunt that barren reclaimed mining site (cause China is so eco friendly).
While the NSA steps up micro-mining mega data to create biodynamic lists of who could or might be a terrorist on the merican populace. While the military industrial complex in an attempt to remain biggest and best beyond comprehension, sale arms to the same countries who foment terrorism or this or that rebel faction, thereby increasing the demand for our #1 export.

Sorry Trumpeters a wall is not gonna fix problems like that no matter who pays for it.
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If OP really cared about eminent domain, then she would realize that without Trump, the NAFTA plan (under different names now) will continue; and when it continues we will realize eminent domain on steroids when the planned NAFTA highway several football fields in width will cut our country in half.

If you are against NAFTA you have to vote Trump who is also against it.
 Quoting: parsley


Well said! I also can't stress enough that Eminent Domain is in the Constitution! It is a granted right!

So when you are saying you are against Eminent Domain, you really are against parts of our Constitution. Funny coming from somebody who supports Rand Paul, a self proclaimed constitutionalist.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Eminent Domain is Constitutional when the property is taken for a PUBLIC project, not a limo parking lot at a casino. That is a private project.
 Quoting: Georgia_dawg


I agree, and Trump lost in court. He probably just did it to piss the old bag off.

In the end, who cares?

Between Hillary getting people killed in the Middle East, Marco Rubio being a bought and paid for politician flip-flopping Manchurian Candidate, Ted Cruz being a Canadian con-man and Bernie's plan to spend $25 Trillion on college students living in momma's basement, who gives a shit about Trump trying to give some stubborn old hag $5 Million for her shitty house?
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I CARE!!! It is one of the foundational principles to Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness (Property).

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I just typed up the best explanation for Eminent Domain I could muster and it didn't post
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I hate it when that happens. Hope you might retry. But understand if you don't. I have done this and just give up.
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I'll be damned if I ever give up on anything in life. I just posted it, albeit not to the quality the original post was.
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Trump doesn't like stupid people.

And that woman is a very stupid person. Even her own family said so.

Maybe his tactics were bullying, but like I said, I'd LOVE to have her problems.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


stupid how exactly? because her home and memories and her free will to stay there was worth more than money?

if you think he was that bullying, then why on earth would you want someone like that for President?

you think he wont bully you?
 Quoting: Baloney


No, because I'm not a moron. If he wants to offer me $5 million for my house, bring it.

The woman also eventually sold the property herself, for $700k (lol), by the way. So much for your "she didn't want to leave behind her memories" argument.

Sissies won't last long in Trump World. Better check your ball sack to see if there's anything there.
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It doesn't matter if you think she was stupid for holding out. It was her property. And she got to sell it when SHE wanted to.

I don't care if she was a libtard or conservative. It was hers. And Trump was wrong for trying to use the force of government to take it away from her.
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And Trump had a right to sue, and rightfully, he lost. Big whoop.
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The fact of the matter is that Donald Trump's concern over States selling their land when in a tight space isn't unheard of. It happens all the time:

[link to www.wsj.com]

Here is a great article about people privately buying ranches and vast swaths of land. They are billionaires hence why Trump is in the know and many are not.


The interview is with the hunting and fishing magazine Field and Stream and when States sell their land to private owners, they typically do not allow for others to go onto their land without a heftier fee. Upkeep also takes a sharp decline.
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Maybe you should donate your property to .gov then.

People who believe Trump is the great savior will possibly have a rude awakening.

Trust no one. Give no one your undying support. Think critically.

I'm not saying Trump is a bad choice, I'm just amazed at the Trump mania which swallows the hype and fails to look critically at the substance.
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I just typed up the best explanation for Eminent Domain I could muster and it didn't post
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I hate it when that happens. Hope you might retry. But understand if you don't. I have done this and just give up.
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I'll be damned if I ever give up on anything in life. I just posted it, albeit not to the quality the original post was.
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Always copy and paste into a notepad important things you write because it can be lost for various reasons like website glitches. I've learned my lesson the hard way on that one!
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