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Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?

 
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I'll be working this week

Catch a fish for me
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Do you like to fish?
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Love it . I also hunt , and work out
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I'll be working this week

Catch a fish for me
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Do you like to fish?
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Love it . I also hunt , and work out
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Good, hunting is good too. I am in Minnesota, so its frozen now. I was in Panama City in July, and we spent 3 days on the pier. Wife caught a redfish that was probably close to 20 pounds. I try to make the ocean once a year, the year before was Outer Banks in North Carolina. In Minnesota it kinda sucks, but its where I am at.
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I'll be working this week

Catch a fish for me
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Do you like to fish?
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Love it . I also hunt , and work out
 Quoting: FOY


Good, hunting is good too. I am in Minnesota, so its frozen now. I was in Panama City in July, and we spent 3 days on the pier. Wife caught a redfish that was probably close to 20 pounds. I try to make the ocean once a year, the year before was Outer Banks in North Carolina. In Minnesota it kinda sucks, but its where I am at.
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here In florida the oceans not far away and I do enjoy bass fishing in lakes around here 2 .

I don't go to a hunting club or nothin , my family owns a good deal of property , I hunt it

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And I workout .. I'm pretty muscular

17 inch arms
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Re: Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?
Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
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Am in complete agreement with this post above 100%
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Re: Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?
Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
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Am in complete agreement with this post above 100%
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How you know it's not koran ?

They say god inspired that ..
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Re: Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?
Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
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I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
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I'm in agreement too!
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And I workout .. I'm pretty muscular

17 inch arms
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Thats probably more info then we need to know
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Re: Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?
Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737


I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269441


I'm in agreement too!
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I guess that would make you both wrong.
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I believe Saul conspired with his fellow Pharisees to destroy the true gospel. There is no chance Christ came, taught a message, died for that teaching, arose from the dead, then commanded His disciples to go into all the world just to turn around and solicit a unrepentant murderer to teach a new gospel.
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I believe Saul conspired with his fellow Pharisees to destroy the true gospel. There is no chance Christ came, taught a message, died for that teaching, arose from the dead, then commanded His disciples to go into all the world just to turn around and solicit a unrepentant murderer to teach a new gospel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71127743




I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Paul



But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.


Paul


For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Paul


But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.


Paul


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Paul


In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Paul


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast
.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Paul


That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Paul


For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

Paul


For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


Paul



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I believe Saul conspired with his fellow Pharisees to destroy the true gospel. There is no chance Christ came, taught a message, died for that teaching, arose from the dead, then commanded His disciples to go into all the world just to turn around and solicit a unrepentant murderer to teach a new gospel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71127743




I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Paul



But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.


Paul


For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Paul


But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.


Paul


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Paul


In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Paul


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast
.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Paul


That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Paul


For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

Paul


For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


Paul



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Paul said many good things. It was his corruption on faith only salvation that makes him so dangerous.
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I don't think Noahides are prohibited from eating blood.

you are confusing with the prohibition against eating a piece of an animal which was taken from a living animal.
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I don't think Noahides are prohibited from eating blood.

you are confusing with the prohibition against eating a piece of an animal which was taken from a living animal.
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Genesis 9:4 is clear enough.
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Jesus Christ specifically selected Paul.

Do you denounce Paul before Jesus Christ?
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Monotheism,

Before Jesus Christ,

DO you denounce Paul?
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You are not a Christian.
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Thanks :)

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I will consider your views.
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hf
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Hello again.

This is my full consideration.

Though my intention is to turn away from sin, I continue to sin because unlike Christ I am imperfect. For me to believe I am righteous would be wrong.

Jesus Christ sacrificed himself for my sins.

Now the question you have posed in my mind is: Is Christs blood on my hands?

Because if there were no sinners then Jesus would have not needed to sacrifice himself, right? but Jesus has sacrificed himself ALREADY, so it would have been in vain.

I can compare Christs sacrifice to jumping in front of a bullet. For example: If I did something bad to someone and was sorry for it and that someone came at me and tried to shoot me in revenge and my friend jumped in front of the bullet for me, would my friends blood be on my hands? I don't think that is a fair burden.
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Re: Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?
Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737


I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269441


I'm in agreement too!
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I agree
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And I workout .. I'm pretty muscular

17 inch arms
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Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737


I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269441


I'm in agreement too!
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


I agree
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Amen and amen and amen!!!
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jerkit
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SIN!!
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jerkit
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SIN!!
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Yes you are...
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jerkit
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SIN!!
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Yes you are...
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I am sin?
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Jesus Christ specifically selected Paul.

Do you denounce Paul before Jesus Christ?
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'Jesus Christ specifically selected Paul'

To do what exactly? Acts 9 "he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake"

Where in that passage do you see Paul specifically being chosen to witness to the truth or to suffer for His gospel?

I can answer for you. Nowhere. You've merely automatically made an assumption that isn't necessarily so.

Do you honestly think it wise to not distinguish between quotes from Jesus and what Paul has written?
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Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.

I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737


I'm in agreement too!
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I agree
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Amen and amen and amen!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71426867


My problem with Paul is actually with those that trust and believe that Paul speaks for Jesus. And I don't hate them (or Paul for that matter as Christ has instructed us to love our enemies)

The beast arose from the sea of humanity by their belief God has chosen a man to speak for Him. Thereby handing authority that is His and His alone over to a lesser being. For the last two thousand years we have done just as it was prophesied we would do.

It's time to stop.
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Thanks :)

I don't need A Label
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I will consider your views.
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hf
 Quoting: FOY


Hello again.

This is my full consideration.

Though my intention is to turn away from sin, I continue to sin because unlike Christ I am imperfect. For me to believe I am righteous would be wrong.

Jesus Christ sacrificed himself for my sins.

Now the question you have posed in my mind is: Is Christs blood on my hands?

Because if there were no sinners then Jesus would have not needed to sacrifice himself, right? but Jesus has sacrificed himself ALREADY, so it would have been in vain.

I can compare Christs sacrifice to jumping in front of a bullet. For example: If I did something bad to someone and was sorry for it and that someone came at me and tried to shoot me in revenge and my friend jumped in front of the bullet for me, would my friends blood be on my hands? I don't think that is a fair burden.
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7 No one can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for them—
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jerkit
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SIN!!
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You are awesome
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I don't think Noahides are prohibited from eating blood.

you are confusing with the prohibition against eating a piece of an animal which was taken from a living animal.
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Genesis 9:4 is clear enough.
 Quoting: Monotheism


translation...

in the Hebrew it says its forbidden WHILE the nefesh(lifeforce) is still in the blood.
once the animal is fully dead though, blood is allowed.

meaning it forbids this

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I don't think Noahides are prohibited from eating blood.

you are confusing with the prohibition against eating a piece of an animal which was taken from a living animal.
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Genesis 9:4 is clear enough.
 Quoting: Monotheism


translation...

in the Hebrew it says its forbidden WHILE the nefesh(lifeforce) is still in the blood.
once the animal is fully dead though, blood is allowed.

meaning it forbids this


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Man that is disgusting.





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