Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?

he didnot say he was a curse he said he said he became a curse .,,,,and he did so on our behalf

he didnot say he was a curse he said he said he became a curse .,,,,and he did so on our behalf

The thing we all have to bear in mind is that all of Jesus's disiples and apostles were mortal and so it make sense that their views differ. Similarly to the way ours do.

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hmmm...interesting, so when the animal is fully dead, the blood is allowed. Ok, then Mono, I guess I don't have to beat the wife.

No he was not a liar, you are, Paul had a zeal for Jesus Christ that no one has had since. God can turn the most vile human into a messenger for God. Christ liveth in him he endured the pain they were trying to beat the jesus out of him but couldnt do it because he had no chains on the inside.
When Paul said goodbye to the world he said goodbye to a filthy thing. He knew the rewards in heaven were much greater than anything on this earth could offer. "The world is crucified to me" He was very smart yet chose the narrow gate and suffered for it.

Listen to the real cost by Leonard ravenhill find on youtube

This is the third time you've talking about beating your wife, is there something you want to share with the class? This is why I don't eat blood.

Deuteronomy 12:23
But be sure you do not eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the meat.

Which also adds a clear meaning to Genesis 9:4. As does Leviticus 17:11-14. And this is why a self-professed Xtian shouldn't eat it.

Acts 15:20
Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

Like you even care.

And what does our hero Paul say about eating sacrificed meats?

4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.



He says it's okay!!!

Paul said many good things. It was his corruption on faith only salvation that makes him so dangerous.


No, it is his insistence on the truth that it is only God who saves man that is hated. And from that hatred, man rejects the truth.

It is God who saves man.
Not the other way around.

Its called a joke Mono, if you weren't always so serious you might understand that.

No, it is his insistence on the truth that it is only God who saves man that is hated. And from that hatred, man rejects the truth.

It is God who saves man.
Not the other way around.


And pray tell me what qualifies man for God to save him? Yahshua made this answer very clear.

Who is the body of Moses?
The New Testament tells you who the body of Christ is....and who the body of moses is....
Do you not know brethren that they were all baptised unto Moses?

Paul was accepted as an Apostle, and wrote most of the NT.

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the long-suffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given to him has written to you; As also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

You are a liar.

Yahshua called Saul a liar in Revelation 2

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:



Saul lets us know that all of the churches in Asia opposed him.

This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.


We know from the extant works of Hippolytus that Phygellus and Hermogenes were the bishops of the church in Ephesus. The same church praised by the Lord in Revelation 2. The truth is there for all to see. The fact is, Christ and Saul had different doctrines. Christ taught obedience and Saul teaches salvation by a thought. When you accept that God will led you into truth without a perfect

I know its hard to understand but Peter explains in his homilies that men were already changing his written works even while he was alive. And who would be referring to Sauls works as scripture while he was still alive? Also, why does it say that the unlearned wrest with? What does Christ say about those who have knowledge? Is not the salvation of God easily understood by children??? Lets try the same passage without the crap about Saul thrown in.




14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation;

17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.



Seems to work just fine without it. Peter never said it.

Peter didn't write 2 Peter.

You mean to tell me somebody could have faked it ??? The plot thickens

No one knows for sure but it likely was not Peter. But it could have been Clement

Your OT is just as much in question. There is truth in both.

Hoop!

Excellent thread. This is one of the biggest secrets in the world, and one of the very most important hidden truths in the world.

Saul of Tarsus, aka "Paul", is 100% a false apostle, and false teacher. He is Satan's apostle. He is trying to lead people to hell, by telling the lie that the "law has been abolished", and that "we are no longer under the law", and we now have license to sin.

The Messiah said that we must obey the commandments in order to obtain eternal life, as he told the rich man who asked him how to obtain eternal life. And in another place it says that only those who "do the will" of the Heavenly Father will obtain eternal life....not those who just call him "Lord, Lord". You must DO HIS WILL. It is not enough to just have an intellectual belief. Even demons have the intellectual belief that He is Lord and risen from the dead.

Why did Christ die?

You state it like a fact. Were you there Mono? Did you see this alleged forgery? You base all your theology on the hope these things are false.