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Poll. How many Christians know Paul was a liar?

 
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Yes
He is God in the flesh
God is love
You refuse to accept him
You expect it to be about you
And your denial of the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71228410


G-d is not a man ( numbers 23:19)
 Quoting: FOY




Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
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I am thrilled to know
Your message is failing
YOU LIARS AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT
AS THIS THREAD HAS 70 odd poor star scores
: lmao:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131



Many have come forth and proclaimed the truth. Nothing I have said has been refuted by Paul's supporters. No one can defend dispensationalism. Many don't even realize what it means or that their preachers exclude Christ's teaching for salvation. You just laughing your ass off.
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G-d is not a man ( numbers 23:19)
 Quoting: FOY




Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
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I am thrilled to know
Your message is failing
YOU LIARS AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT
AS THIS THREAD HAS 70 odd poor star scores
: lmao:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131


Flat earthers said the same at one Time
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Who else was at Ephesus FOY

The beloved disciple John was!
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Is it not peculiar that those who claim PAUL is a false apostle....uphold "John" as a true one and never once consider.....
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You antichrists shall be damned if you do not repent
So
Repent and believe in jesus the son of God
As Paul preached and suffered for the sake of that message
Receive it WITH thanksgiving and stop lying against THE HOLY SPIRIT OF THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131


Isn't this a little harsh? Doth thou protest too much?

Real Christians don't react with this sort of vitriol against many other types of heresy or sin.

Why are you going ape over those who question Saul? Saul was not a true apostle. On what authority can you even hold that his writings should be regarded as "canon" and "inspired" and on the same level as the words of the Messiah?

Paul's letters are like Billy Graham writing a letter.
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Who else was at Ephesus FOY

The beloved disciple John was!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70685297


Is it not peculiar that those who claim PAUL is a false apostle....uphold "John" as a true one and never once consider.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71447711


Paul just happened to self indicate himself as the one they rejected ( 2 Timothy 1:15-16

He also is always having to tell others he's not a liar ( Romans 9:1, Galatians 1:20)
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Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY


hesright Try to analyze this critically, my man. Most of these prophecies are either twisted or taken out of context to fit. If we believe everything the NT says about Jesus, we simply cannot conclude that he is the Messiah, since he does not do everything that a Messiah is supposed to do, as laid out in the Torah. And there is no concept of "Second Coming". He comes in as a man, does his job and that's it.

G-d is not a man, nor a son of man.
 Quoting: Rikishi


Who's son os the christ?
THE SON OF GOD


YOU ARE A SON OF MAN
THAT IS WHY GOD IS NOT LIKE YOU

BUT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE PERFECT SON OF MAN

THOSE SONS OF MEN WHO DO ONT RECEIVE HIM SHALL BECOME EXTINCT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131


G-d is one and all, he is infinite and omnipresent. He does not need a special designation to say that He resides in this man more than others.

But even if it were so, and G-d incarnated (however unlikely that is), I am pretty damn sure that there would be no problem fulfilling ALL of the prophecies laid out for the Messiah.

Yet your "Messiah" clearly failed.

He did not rule as a king over all Jews (though he claimed the title, but nobody took him seriously). He was not of the tribe of Joseph either, claiming to be straight from G-d.

He did not gather all of the exiles and made Israel a proper, sovereign nation again. He did not enforce complete Torah observance either, but was lenient in its practice, ignoring some of the mitzvots.

There was no worldwide peace and all the nations of the world did NOT know G-d universally. Paganism, idolatry survives to this day and was much more prevalent in the era of JC.

And a ton of more prophecies that are claimed to be fulfilled, but in reality do not even revolve around the Messiah, or are completely twisted to suit the agenda

If you want people to believe, you have to address these things and I know you cannot. Not without copouts like the "Second Coming".
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Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY



That at the end of the 70 weeks Yah would provide the solution to wipe away the sins of Israel. He would send the Messiah. The Jews knew this. Harod knew this. Everyone knew this.
Living the gospel of Christ is an action not a thought.
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Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY


Also, that you are throwing your lot in with those who worship Molech. And those who pioneered indirect murder. Those who condone baby sacrifice and subterfuge.
Living the gospel of Christ is an action not a thought.
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Have you ever take. The time to look at how many times the O.T refers to Yahshua?
 Quoting: Eichmann


I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY


Also, that you are throwing your lot in with those who worship Molech. And those who pioneered indirect murder. Those who condone baby sacrifice and subterfuge.
Living the gospel of Christ is an action not a thought.
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Who else was at Ephesus FOY

The beloved disciple John was!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70685297


Is it not peculiar that those who claim PAUL is a false apostle....uphold "John" as a true one and never once consider.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71447711


Paul just happened to self indicate himself as the one they rejected ( 2 Timothy 1:15-16

He also is always having to tell others he's not a liar ( Romans 9:1, Galatians 1:20)
 Quoting: FOY


Calling that which is of God - the Holy Spirit - a liar is not a wise move.
You are doing exactly what they did then - calling him a liar.
Do you not know that it was the end of the seventh day when they threw Paul out of the temple....and the gates were immediately shut.?
You rejectors of the gospel of God and CHRIST are that prophecy fulfilled.
Which witnesses to the time for the rest of us.
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I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY



And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY



That at the end of the 70 weeks Yah would provide the solution to wipe away the sins of Israel. He would send the Messiah. The Jews knew this. Harod knew this. Everyone knew this.
 Quoting: Eichmann


The authors of the NT missed it
Kisses
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And what of Daniels 70 weeks? Your Messiah died at Masada. The Jews murdered the true Messiah. And what of our march towards a global government? Have you read the Protocols of the elders of Zion?
 Quoting: Eichmann


What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY



That at the end of the 70 weeks Yah would provide the solution to wipe away the sins of Israel. He would send the Messiah. The Jews knew this. Harod knew this. Everyone knew this.
 Quoting: Eichmann


The authors of the NT missed it
 Quoting: FOY



That's your answer?
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I have taken the time and if you got your Jesus shades on he's everywhere

If your honest he's no where
 Quoting: FOY


hesright Try to analyze this critically, my man. Most of these prophecies are either twisted or taken out of context to fit. If we believe everything the NT says about Jesus, we simply cannot conclude that he is the Messiah, since he does not do everything that a Messiah is supposed to do, as laid out in the Torah. And there is no concept of "Second Coming". He comes in as a man, does his job and that's it.

G-d is not a man, nor a son of man.
 Quoting: Rikishi


Who's son os the christ?
THE SON OF GOD


YOU ARE A SON OF MAN
THAT IS WHY GOD IS NOT LIKE YOU

BUT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE PERFECT SON OF MAN

THOSE SONS OF MEN WHO DO ONT RECEIVE HIM SHALL BECOME EXTINCT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131


G-d is one and all, he is infinite and omnipresent. He does not need a special designation to say that He resides in this man more than others.

But even if it were so, and G-d incarnated (however unlikely that is), I am pretty damn sure that there would be no problem fulfilling ALL of the prophecies laid out for the Messiah.

Yet your "Messiah" clearly failed.

He did not rule as a king over all Jews (though he claimed the title, but nobody took him seriously). He was not of the tribe of Joseph either, claiming to be straight from G-d.

He did not gather all of the exiles and made Israel a proper, sovereign nation again. He did not enforce complete Torah observance either, but was lenient in its practice, ignoring some of the mitzvots.

There was no worldwide peace and all the nations of the world did NOT know G-d universally. Paganism, idolatry survives to this day and was much more prevalent in the era of JC.

And a ton of more prophecies that are claimed to be fulfilled, but in reality do not even revolve around the Messiah, or are completely twisted to suit the agenda

If you want people to believe, you have to address these things and I know you cannot. Not without copouts like the "Second Coming".
 Quoting: Rikishi


Why were the leaders in Judea sooooo concerned that JESUS was going to go into the nations?
Who was there?
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What's the argument here ?
 Quoting: FOY



That at the end of the 70 weeks Yah would provide the solution to wipe away the sins of Israel. He would send the Messiah. The Jews knew this. Harod knew this. Everyone knew this.
 Quoting: Eichmann


The authors of the NT missed it
 Quoting: FOY



That's your answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71127743


Yes . The authors of the NT who grasped for straws for anything from the OT they could tie to Jesus missed the Daniel 9 Jazz

That should tell you something

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hesright Try to analyze this critically, my man. Most of these prophecies are either twisted or taken out of context to fit. If we believe everything the NT says about Jesus, we simply cannot conclude that he is the Messiah, since he does not do everything that a Messiah is supposed to do, as laid out in the Torah. And there is no concept of "Second Coming". He comes in as a man, does his job and that's it.

G-d is not a man, nor a son of man.
 Quoting: Rikishi


Who's son os the christ?
THE SON OF GOD


YOU ARE A SON OF MAN
THAT IS WHY GOD IS NOT LIKE YOU

BUT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE PERFECT SON OF MAN

THOSE SONS OF MEN WHO DO ONT RECEIVE HIM SHALL BECOME EXTINCT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71068131


G-d is one and all, he is infinite and omnipresent. He does not need a special designation to say that He resides in this man more than others.

But even if it were so, and G-d incarnated (however unlikely that is), I am pretty damn sure that there would be no problem fulfilling ALL of the prophecies laid out for the Messiah.

Yet your "Messiah" clearly failed.

He did not rule as a king over all Jews (though he claimed the title, but nobody took him seriously). He was not of the tribe of Joseph either, claiming to be straight from G-d.

He did not gather all of the exiles and made Israel a proper, sovereign nation again. He did not enforce complete Torah observance either, but was lenient in its practice, ignoring some of the mitzvots.

There was no worldwide peace and all the nations of the world did NOT know G-d universally. Paganism, idolatry survives to this day and was much more prevalent in the era of JC.

And a ton of more prophecies that are claimed to be fulfilled, but in reality do not even revolve around the Messiah, or are completely twisted to suit the agenda

If you want people to believe, you have to address these things and I know you cannot. Not without copouts like the "Second Coming".
 Quoting: Rikishi


Why were the leaders in Judea sooooo concerned that JESUS was going to go into the nations?
Who was there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71447711


If there was deception afoot, it was their responsibility to prevent it, it is as simple as that. A false Messiah that riles up the people and could invite more Roman repression was nothing to take lightly.
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That at the end of the 70 weeks Yah would provide the solution to wipe away the sins of Israel. He would send the Messiah. The Jews knew this. Harod knew this. Everyone knew this.
 Quoting: Eichmann


The authors of the NT missed it
 Quoting: FOY



That's your answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71127743


Yes . The authors of the NT who grasped for straws for anything from the OT they could tie to Jesus missed the Daniel 9 Jazz

That should tell you something
 Quoting: FOY



Have you ever read the book of Enoch?
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The authors of the NT missed it
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That's your answer?
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Yes . The authors of the NT who grasped for straws for anything from the OT they could tie to Jesus missed the Daniel 9 Jazz

That should tell you something
 Quoting: FOY



Have you ever read the book of Enoch?
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Some of it , I don't consider it of any inspiration or written by enoch
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Im not a a learned scholar of The Bible and the Lord is new to me, so i will just say this;

'Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the LORD that will stand.'
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Im not a a learned scholar of The Bible and the Lord is new to me, so i will just say this;

'Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the LORD that will stand.'
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Where will it stand ?
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Im not a a learned scholar of The Bible and the Lord is new to me, so i will just say this;

'Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the LORD that will stand.'
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Where will it stand ?
 Quoting: FOY


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Im not a a learned scholar of The Bible and the Lord is new to me, so i will just say this;

'Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the LORD that will stand.'
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Very true.
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I am a Southern Babtist convert to??? I believe the Sabbath is Saturday and I ignore Paul best I can. Meats for idols includes Christmas dinner. That's where my studies lead me. I once commented one here that the old testament Mosaic law is done away with by Christ as Paul said. I was wrong and apologize to any who headed. I believed then as I currently do that the Ten Commandments are forever. I am learning to be more Jewish.
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I am a Southern Babtist convert to??? I believe the Sabbath is Saturday and I ignore Paul best I can. Meats for idols includes Christmas dinner. That's where my studies lead me. I once commented one here that the old testament Mosaic law is done away with by Christ as Paul said. I was wrong and apologize to any who headed. I believed then as I currently do that the Ten Commandments are forever. I am learning to be more Jewish.
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I am a Southern Babtist convert to??? I believe the Sabbath is Saturday and I ignore Paul best I can. Meats for idols includes Christmas dinner. That's where my studies lead me. I once commented one here that the old testament Mosaic law is done away with by Christ as Paul said. I was wrong and apologize to any who headed. I believed then as I currently do that the Ten Commandments are forever. I am learning to be more Jewish.
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Good job man. This is an evil spell over those who call themselves the followers of Christ.
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Jesus Christ specifically selected Paul.

Do you denounce Paul before Jesus Christ?
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Monotheism,

Before Jesus Christ,

DO you denounce Paul?
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Jesus Christ specifically selected Paul.

Do you denounce Paul before Jesus Christ?
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Monotheism,

Before Jesus Christ,

DO you denounce Paul?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73425245



I will denounce Paul as a liar and a murderer.
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Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
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I'm in complete agreement with this post above 100%
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I'm in agreement too!
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Those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

They have a problem with Paul.
Paul preaches only Jesus Christ.
They have a problem with Christ.
They never preach Christ.
They oppose the one who started preaching Christ.

Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ.

I believe in Jesus Christ.
I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching.
I believe in the God of Israel.
I believe in the God of the Bible.
I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it.
I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us
without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men
and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior.
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GLP