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Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) User ID: 161078 Chile 11/22/2006 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd say is more some shots of the test rig than anything, but it does not shows the magnets configuration, only the movement. I'd love to see it published to allow for replication, not because I think this does not work, au cantraire, I want to have one of these at home now, not the next year. |
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(OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 11/22/2006 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nominated Forum Member Visits Steorn CEO Describes a viable company facility with lots of space and lots of money. Inspected two jury member files and later confirmed their existence and credentials. Saw info on manufacturer. by Sterling D. Allan Pure Energy Systems News Copyright © 2006 DUBLIN, IRELAND -- A person from the Steorn forum, who uses the name "crank", was nominated recently by the forum to go visit the Steorn facility in person to meet with Steorn CEO, Sean McCarthy. Steorn made international news in August with their announcement of a free energy device, and a call for a jury of twelve skeptical scientists to validate their claims, to what McCarthy told us is a magnet motor. (Ref.) According to a forum member who brought this meeting to our attention, the purpose of the visit by a forum member, in which McCarthy participates, was to "see at least one product spec and verify the identity of a firm that will be producing the devices." There will apparently be future meetings as well. "Crank" has shared personal information with several people on the forum and is traceable online back to 1998 (people were worried she was a plant). The following is here account, published Nov. 19, 2006 on the Steorn forum. OK, I'm laying my neck on the block now. You can hit me with all you've got I'm just going to tell you what happened, without giving any opinions. I met Sean at 12 today, in the Steorn unit. It's much bigger than I expected, large and rambling, and spread across two floors. For anyone thinking of breaking in - it's like Fort Knox. Not just on the perimeter, but internally. Lots of rooms, with mixtures of computers and engineering stuff. Sean basically allowed me to ask anything I wanted. I wasn't sure how long he was going to give me on the first meeting, so I rushed certain aspects, which I'm now regretting. In the event, we talked etc. for two and a half hours, and he was very open. A few things he said he'd tell me further down the line, when he knew me better. Fair enough. We sat and talked in the room which held all the information on the scientists who'd applied - or at least the short-listed ones. I examined only two files in detail (because of the time constraint that I imagined). Those files contained the complete details on two of the scientists who have signed the contracts. I've researched both online since I came home, and they are as high up the ladder as you can get. He told me who is manufacturing under license, and showed me the relevant section of the documentary (interview with the head of the company just after he'd run the tests which confirmed ou for himself). I've researched online, and found photographs on the (licensed) company website of the person in the documentary, so I can confirm that part. I've seen the managing director of the company in the documentary, demonstrating his own test-rig that he'd built himself. On behalf of Magnatrix I asked who does the cleaning. The cleaning is done by a local woman, who has cleaned units in the Park for years. I've seen a layout of the e-commerce site, and seen a design for one product. It's quite special. I'll be saving my pennies for launch day. That's all I'll say on the subject. Ummmmmmmm....we covered so much ground that it's hard to remember everything. I will be visiting again, and can see more financial stuff and more details of the jurors when I visit. In case you're wondering if they really have Flux3d, yes I saw it on a pc. He showed me the prospectus (not the right word, but I can't remember the technical name for it) that was used when raising finance. He explained that it's a legal requirement in Ireland to have every statement in a prospectus verified and signed off by a lawyer and the MD of the company. The MD then becomes personally liable if any information is found to be false. That's all I can think of at the moment. I'll be visiting again over the next week or so. I asked if it was seeing some juicy whispers that caused him to post the warning, but he said 'no', it had just occurred to him that posters who were not computer-savvy might not realise that whispers aren't invisible to moderators, so he'd better warn everyone up front. Whew! |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) User ID: 161078 Chile 11/22/2006 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read about this in pesn yesterday. It's really encouraging to know Steorn is going full throtle ahead. I wonder if TPTB are going to let this happen because: a) they could not stop it b) because it's too late already c) because it serves their purposes. I hope the answer is a. |
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Dr. P ( On This ! ) User ID: 161064 United States 11/22/2006 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One MUST assume it works, as they ARE going into production. I would hazzard a statement to the affect that the challange to other scientists to repoduce said machine is NOT a challenge at all, but a way of securing their LIVES. SAME as a dirty secret that TPTB don't want known ..... Leak it to enough people, and you WON'T kill it by jailing/killing the ones who originally found it out. Same with the motor; enough people have their OWN/know HOW to build one OR, can complete the work eventually ( in SECRET ), then the gennie IS 'out of the bottle'. Smart fellows ! GO, Steorn, GO ! Let the A-rabs make vasoline out of their oil, and 'lube' each other up for action. BIG market for fags, too ! |
Duncan Kunz
User ID: 97965 United States 11/22/2006 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to think Steorn has come up with a real thing, too, but I'm afraid it's just another hoax. There've simply been too many of these 'start-up' companies which announced some sort of magic whizz-bang which never performed. Instead, the inventor/ engineer/ company president would always be putting it off because of some "minor problems", or "bad guys stealing the plans" and finally it'd just die out -- sort of like the NESARA announcement that was going to come Real Soon Now. Steorn has not provided any scientists or engineers with any data; instead, they're going to 'hand-pick' people to watch a demonstration under controlled (by Steorn) conditions. Big deal. That is not the way scientific and technological information is released -- at least, not if the people releasing want to have any credibility. I mean, this thingie -- if it works -- will change the entire world annd will also stand conventional physics on its head, and the company is playing all these games. Hey, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid I'm right. I say the Steorn thing is bogus. Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
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(OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 11/22/2006 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to think Steorn has come up with a real thing, too, but I'm afraid it's just another hoax. Quoting: Duncan KunzThere've simply been too many of these 'start-up' companies which announced some sort of magic whizz-bang which never performed. Instead, the inventor/ engineer/ company president would always be putting it off because of some "minor problems", or "bad guys stealing the plans" and finally it'd just die out -- sort of like the NESARA announcement that was going to come Real Soon Now. Steorn has not provided any scientists or engineers with any data; instead, they're going to 'hand-pick' people to watch a demonstration under controlled (by Steorn) conditions. Big deal. That is not the way scientific and technological information is released -- at least, not if the people releasing want to have any credibility. I mean, this thingie -- if it works -- will change the entire world annd will also stand conventional physics on its head, and the company is playing all these games. Hey, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid I'm right. I say the Steorn thing is bogus. irishmen never lie. |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 161078 Chile 11/22/2006 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One MUST assume it works, as they ARE going into production. Quoting: Dr. P ( On This ! ) 161064I would hazzard a statement to the affect that the challange to other scientists to repoduce said machine is NOT a challenge at all, but a way of securing their LIVES. SAME as a dirty secret that TPTB don't want known ..... Leak it to enough people, and you WON'T kill it by jailing/killing the ones who originally found it out. Same with the motor; enough people have their OWN/know HOW to build one OR, can complete the work eventually ( in SECRET ), then the gennie IS 'out of the bottle'. Smart fellows ! GO, Steorn, GO ! Let the A-rabs make vasoline out of their oil, and 'lube' each other up for action. BIG market for fags, too ! That would fit alternative a: Steorn outsmarted TPTB so they won't be able to stop them and the cat is finally and gloriously out of the bag. Woo Hoo!. I sincerely pray for that, because either alternative b or c are too bad to brag about. Regards. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Duncan Kunz
User ID: 97965 United States 11/22/2006 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Irishmen never lie" And you need to explain it to me -- from the old County Galway clan of O'Kunz? Sure and 'tis the absloute truth, but i'm told that the management of Steorn are all English invaders! Sassenach spalpeens, the lot o' them! Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 137824 United Kingdom 11/22/2006 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Irishmen never lie" Quoting: Duncan KunzAnd you need to explain it to me -- from the old County Galway clan of O'Kunz? Sure and 'tis the absloute truth, but i'm told that the management of Steorn are all English invaders! Sassenach spalpeens, the lot o' them! Irishmen may never lie. But a few of sure do b.s., don't they Kunz? |
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BigUglySlaughterHouse User ID: 4812 United States 11/23/2006 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if they try to make large amounts of money they will wind up dead and the project will be shelved. If they cared about the future of mankind they'd release the spec sheet to everyone NOW. Quoting: 1294I agree. The one who releases a toy that performs, will win. This technology must be put in the hands of children as a simple toy. They will then take it to the next level, and TPTB cannot stop it. |
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User ID: 155573 United States 11/23/2006 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Thermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
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(OP) User ID: 160783 United Kingdom 11/23/2006 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Quoting: The CommentatorThermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? it draws energy from a source not yet fully understood by science, that's how. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 161637 Norway 11/23/2006 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Quoting: The CommentatorThermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? Well, that was a bold and confident statement if I ever heard one... How about the creation itself? Is it in compliance with the laws of thermodynamics? And how about the well known scientific fact - that our current science only can account for less than 20% of the total energy and mass in the universe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 161627 United Kingdom 11/23/2006 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 161637Thermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? Well, that was a bold and confident statement if I ever heard one... How about the creation itself? Is it in compliance with the laws of thermodynamics? And how about the well known scientific fact - that our current science only can account for less than 20% of the total energy and mass in the universe? you mean the current science youve spent so longresearching? keep eating it :D |
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User ID: 155573 United States 11/24/2006 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Quoting: AC 2741Thermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? it draws energy from a source not yet fully understood by science, that's how. Nice sidestep, but doesn't reaally adress the question. Thermodynamics is quite well estaablished. There has never been an exception observed in nature or man made systems. The creation of the universe obviously obeys the laws of thermodynamics being a closed system. To say it is something not understood by science is no different than saying "It is magic." Arguably true, but not a satisfactory explanation. If i were a betting man, I would bet this one evaporates like every other such system. Again, this is not saying such a thing is impossible, but it is, to say the least, an extraordinary claim, and those require extraordinary proof. So I ask agaain, how does this get past the laws of thermodynamics? A VERY basic introductory thermodynamics article can be found here: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A more complete bibliography of basic thermodynamics can be found here: [link to tigger.uic.edu] non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
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User ID: 161757 United States 11/24/2006 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do they manage to get around the laws of thermodynamics? Quoting: The CommentatorThermodynamics is the single most tested of all physical laws and there has never been a system, natural or man made, that violated these laws. So how does this device accomplish the trick? it draws energy from a source not yet fully understood by science, that's how. Nice sidestep, but doesn't reaally adress the question. Thermodynamics is quite well estaablished. There has never been an exception observed in nature or man made systems. The creation of the universe obviously obeys the laws of thermodynamics being a closed system. To say it is something not understood by science is no different than saying "It is magic." Arguably true, but not a satisfactory explanation. If i were a betting man, I would bet this one evaporates like every other such system. Again, this is not saying such a thing is impossible, but it is, to say the least, an extraordinary claim, and those require extraordinary proof. So I ask agaain, how does this get past the laws of thermodynamics? A VERY basic introductory thermodynamics article can be found here: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A more complete bibliography of basic thermodynamics can be found here: [link to tigger.uic.edu] Does this mean you cannot get free energy from space? |