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Where are all the videos of the LaVoy Finicum shooting. We know there has to be more. We even know that Shawna Cox was filming it all with her smart phone.

Although the FBI released one aerial video, it is not enough for the public to be able to judge whether Lavoy died in cold-blooded murder. We need much more to be able to see where his hand went when he was shot in the side. Did he try to hold himself there to prevent bleeding out? We have a right to know. The FBI should want us to know.

The below footage shows a camera on the helmet of a police or Fbi officer at the arrest that evening on the way to John Day of Ryan Payne. You see him down on his knees. Doesn't that look like a camera on that helmet?
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LINK: Two days later, on January 28, Greg Bretzing, the Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in Oregon, held another press conference to release an aerial video of the shooting taken from an FBI plane. The video, according to Bretzing, confirms the FBI/OSP version of the incident, which claims that Finicum, who had his hands up in the air, was shot because he was reaching toward his pocket, where, according to the FBI, he was carrying a loaded 9mm handgun.

While most of the “mainstream” media reports uncritically accepted the FBI claim, the video does not unequivocally support that interpretation of the event. As we reported, the FBI video is a grainy and often out-of-focus video, and since it was taken from considerable altitude, it only provides an overhead perspective. Moreover, there is no audio, so there is no way to ascertain how many shots were fired, or when they were fired.

The movement of Mr. Finicum’s right hand, may just as well have been — as critics point out — that he was trying to balance himself in the slippery, deep snow, or was grabbing his side in an involuntary reaction to having already been shot.

In our earlier article on the FBI video, we asked:

• In an operation of this size, with all of the local, state, and federal resources and manpower deployed, were there no other video or audio recordings?

• Were there no dash-cams on the vehicles or body-cams/body-mics on the troopers and FBI agents?

• Where is Finicum’s truck and has there been any independent verification of the number of bullet holes in it?

And we added: "It is highly unlikely that there are not additional video and audio recordings."
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Fast-tracked Oregon legislation that would conceal the identity of the officer who shot Robert “LaVoy” Finicum is meeting with resistance from supporters of the slain Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupier.

State Rep. Jeff Barker, the Democrat who chairs the House Judiciary Committee, added an amendment last week to H.B. 4087 that would allow courts to withhold for 90 days the name of an officer who uses deadly force in the event of a “credible threat of danger.”
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In Portland on Friday, after the last four Malheur wildlife refuge occupiers made their first court appearance, Nevada Assemblyman John Moore spoke to reporters outside the Federal Courthouse. “In my opinion, Mr. Finicum was murdered,” he said, referring to LaVoy Finicum’s shooting death by Oregon state police.



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In Portland on Friday, after the last four Malheur wildlife refuge occupiers made their first court appearance, Nevada Assemblyman John Moore spoke to reporters outside the Federal Courthouse. “In my opinion, Mr. Finicum was murdered,” he said, referring to LaVoy Finicum’s shooting death by Oregon state police.



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Thanks for keeping up with this and keeping in on the forefront. This is so much more important than most people realize!
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Thanks for keeping up with this and keeping it on the forefront. This is so much more important than most people realize!
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Thanks for keeping up with this and keeping in on the forefront. This is so much more important than most people realize!
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You are so welcome. I want more answers.
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Interesting, but I disagree with the video.
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In Portland on Friday, after the last four Malheur wildlife refuge occupiers made their first court appearance, Nevada Assemblyman John Moore spoke to reporters outside the Federal Courthouse. “In my opinion, Mr. Finicum was murdered,” he said, referring to LaVoy Finicum’s shooting death by Oregon state police.



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I am glad to see another "authority" speak out, and I hope he is sincere, but how do you tell anymore who is controlled opposition and who is trying to further their career. Someone needs to speak for the people and do it honestly. What has been going on in the circus of daily political theater lately is quite overwhelming, to say the least. The American people have, and are still putting up with too much poop out of those who are suppose to be doing the right thing .. for us and in our name!
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In Portland on Friday, after the last four Malheur wildlife refuge occupiers made their first court appearance, Nevada Assemblyman John Moore spoke to reporters outside the Federal Courthouse. “In my opinion, Mr. Finicum was murdered,” he said, referring to LaVoy Finicum’s shooting death by Oregon state police.



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I am glad to see another "authority" speak out, and I hope he is sincere, but how do you tell anymore who is controlled opposition and who is trying to further their career. Someone needs to speak for the people and do it honestly. What has been going on in the circus of daily political theater lately is quite overwhelming, to say the least. The American people have, and are still putting up with too much poop out of those who are suppose to be doing the right thing .. for us and in our name!
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Well, hopefully, the fact that local politicans are speaking out, peoples ears may perk up a little, and realize that there is something there to look into.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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Of course an agent is gonna disagree with the truth
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Interesting, but I disagree with the video.
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I think the video is so chopped up it is hard to tell when what happened or, if the things we see are indeed real events. What is embellished? I will be glad when this vid is analyzed by someone who knows how to do it. Perhaps the story will be allowed to rest on the truth. We know above all a man was murdered ... beyond that what do they want to disprove. I am sure the person that did this vid was concerned with the crazies and the talent releases. There were other crisis actors .. which is a huge Red flag but there needs to be clarification of the truth and the fiction pointed out so it can be disregarded.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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Suppressors were used on the guns against white snow. Hard to see. There was blood and I posted the pics more than once. I don't think Lavoy was faking .... I can't think anyone could fake that and in this situation. I want to be able to prove this once and for all.
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In Portland on Friday, after the last four Malheur wildlife refuge occupiers made their first court appearance, Nevada Assemblyman John Moore spoke to reporters outside the Federal Courthouse. “In my opinion, Mr. Finicum was murdered,” he said, referring to LaVoy Finicum’s shooting death by Oregon state police.



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I am glad to see another "authority" speak out, and I hope he is sincere, but how do you tell anymore who is controlled opposition and who is trying to further their career. Someone needs to speak for the people and do it honestly. What has been going on in the circus of daily political theater lately is quite overwhelming, to say the least. The American people have, and are still putting up with too much poop out of those who are suppose to be doing the right thing .. for us and in our name!
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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OK...THAT BOTHERS ME, and I cannot answer that. Can anyone?

I have seen gunshots, and there is always a huge amount of blood.

Something that has bothered me is those who were at LaVoy's funeral said that his head was so bad, they had to reconstruct it with wax.

Yet Victoria Sharp said as she walked by LaVoy he still had his glasses and hat on...no head wound at that time, so what do you think?

I cannot figure it out?

Was he tased in the video, and then shot after everyone had left?
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The family have ordered an autopsy.
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At 1:48 what did the form release person say to the signer right after asking him to sign so he would be able to use the footage in a documentary? I have listened over a few times ... he didn't say "just don't let anyone see it," did he? Of course that is not something to be upset over I just wonder IF THAT WAS WHAT HE SAID .. why? It throws doubt ... somehow ....
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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I can answer this... when you fall down in snow gushing blood it doesn't pool unless the snow is so far below freezing that the body temperature wouldn't melt it. Meaning that snow was deep and he fell on top of it. The spot where the blood made contact with the ground would melt the snow underneath it and the blood would take the path of least resistance and flow down, under the snow, under the body and into the ground. The only place you could probably see it would be if you had a lot of splatter. Like a .308 or bigger hitting the head. .223 or NATO could do it but it has to be a clean enough shot to grab the proper propulsion to remove a chunk of the exit wound.

Gun flashes would depend on the muzzle break. Any tactical weapon should be significantly supressed. Better than milspec anyway. The last thing you need is to give someone a flash target in low light situations.

Pleas know I am just speculating on what I have seen in the past. Plus this is still pretty grainy video when zoomed in to make it discernable. I am not saying there aren't things very odd about this video. I am currently doing a double take on the flashes outside of the truck after LaVoy was shot.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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I can answer this... when you fall down in snow gushing blood it doesn't pool unless the snow is so far below freezing that the body temperature wouldn't melt it. Meaning that snow was deep and he fell on top of it. The spot where the blood made contact with the ground would melt the snow underneath it and the blood would take the path of least resistance and flow down, under the snow, under the body and into the ground. The only place you could probably see it would be if you had a lot of splatter. Like a .308 or bigger hitting the head. .223 or NATO could do it but it has to be a clean enough shot to grab the proper propulsion to remove a chunk of the exit wound.

Gun flashes would depend on the muzzle break. Any tactical weapon should be significantly supressed. Better than milspec anyway. The last thing you need is to give someone a flash target in low light situations.

Pleas know I am just speculating on what I have seen in the past. Plus this is still pretty grainy video when zoomed in to make it discernable. I am not saying there aren't things very odd about this video. I am currently doing a double take on the flashes outside of the truck after LaVoy was shot.
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Thank you so much. You just explained it very well. What blood in snow will do, and I had no idea.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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OK...THAT BOTHERS ME, and I cannot answer that. Can anyone?

I have seen gunshots, and there is always a huge amount of blood.

Something that has bothered me is those who were at LaVoy's funeral said that his head was so bad, they had to reconstruct it with wax.

Yet Victoria Sharp said as she walked by LaVoy he still had his glasses and hat on...no head wound at that time, so what do you think?

I cannot figure it out?

Was he tased in the video, and then shot after everyone had left?
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Unless that skull damage took place after he was on the ground, then we should see spatter. That gives reason for concern. If he continued to take damage while in deep snow then the snow could still contain the blood in my opinion. You can do an experiment to see this effect. If you filled a plastic milk jug up with 98 degree water and took it in the snow, you could punch a hole in it and see if it puddle or melted the snow and ran underneath the covering.

We need to be careful not to get caught up in little discrepancies. That is actually a tactic of spinning and making people second guess themselves. In my opinion, if they were given free passage to meet with law enforcement on the morning LaVoy was shot then it was a classic ambush done in perfect military execution. The only difference would be that in the ME we wouldn't have put anyone in danger by keeping them visible in thebroad. We would bottle neck them take lines of fire on each side of the road and cut them all in half. Pretty close to what hapoened.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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OK...THAT BOTHERS ME, and I cannot answer that. Can anyone?

I have seen gunshots, and there is always a huge amount of blood.

Something that has bothered me is those who were at LaVoy's funeral said that his head was so bad, they had to reconstruct it with wax.

Yet Victoria Sharp said as she walked by LaVoy he still had his glasses and hat on...no head wound at that time, so what do you think?

I cannot figure it out?

Was he tased in the video, and then shot after everyone had left?
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MW Lavoys hat was not removed until the "agents" gathered around. Then one knelt down and took the hat off his head and threw it a short distance away. He would be on Lavoy's right side since he was lying face up.. After that they all came closer and one in particular made his way around on the side where the agent had just knelt and threw the hat, again on the right side. This agent had a pistol gripped in both hands, knees bent, and hovering with his hands and pistol held low. This is the last version I saw and it had been blown up quite a bit. It was in one of your earlier threads and I remember saying "OMG OMG I see it now" because I had never seen the pistol in the hands of that agent. I was imagining what happened after that but the camera went behind trees and they the vid ran out.
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I am getting so tired of people trying to make this OK

it is NOT OK ... ambushing people, is NOT OK
shooting a person NINE TIMES .. is not OK
planting a gun on them ... is NOT OK
using UN (FRENCH) mercenaries to murder Americans is NOT OK
shooting the (empty car) was NOT OK and unreasonable.
concealing the evidence from the Pubic (and family) is NOT OK

charging them with terrorism is NOT OK

holding them indefinitely - in solitary is NOT OK


I could go on forever ... LaVoy was NO THREAT to the twenty or so men that ambushed him - and if they had done their "homework" they KNEW THAT

yes, there were "crisis actors"
yes there were agent provocateurs
yes there was a lot of mis-information being disbursed by the FBI to make them look like the "good guys" but they are the ones who made things WORSE


yes LaVoy Finicum was MURDERED and it was pre-meditated.
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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OK...THAT BOTHERS ME, and I cannot answer that. Can anyone?

I have seen gunshots, and there is always a huge amount of blood.

Something that has bothered me is those who were at LaVoy's funeral said that his head was so bad, they had to reconstruct it with wax.

Yet Victoria Sharp said as she walked by LaVoy he still had his glasses and hat on...no head wound at that time, so what do you think?

I cannot figure it out?

Was he tased in the video, and then shot after everyone had left?
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MW Lavoys hat was not removed until the "agents" gathered around. Then one knelt down and took the hat off his head and threw it a short distance away. He would be on Lavoy's right side since he was lying face up.. After that they all came closer and one in particular made his way around on the side where the agent had just knelt and threw the hat, again on the right side. This agent had a pistol gripped in both hands, knees bent, and hovering with his hands and pistol held low. This is the last version I saw and it had been blown up quite a bit. It was in one of your earlier threads and I remember saying "OMG OMG I see it now" because I had never seen the pistol in the hands of that agent. I was imagining what happened after that but the camera went behind trees and they the vid ran out.
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OMG, THEY SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD AFTER VICTORIA WAS GONE.

And were is the truck?
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I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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Suppressors were used on the guns against white snow. Hard to see. There was blood and I posted the pics more than once. I don't think Lavoy was faking .... I can't think anyone could fake that and in this situation. I want to be able to prove this once and for all.
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The blood I ref. was a spatter pattern. Do I need to go find the pics?
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I am getting so tired of people trying to make this OK

it is NOT OK ... ambushing people, is NOT OK
shooting a person NINE TIMES .. is not OK
planting a gun on them ... is NOT OK
using UN (FRENCH) mercenaries to murder Americans is NOT OK
shooting the (empty car) was NOT OK and unreasonable.
concealing the evidence from the Pubic (and family) is NOT OK

charging them with terrorism is NOT OK

holding them indefinitely - in solitary is NOT OK


I could go on forever ... LaVoy was NO THREAT to the twenty or so men that ambushed him - and if they had done their "homework" they KNEW THAT

yes, there were "crisis actors"
yes there were agent provocateurs
yes there was a lot of mis-information being disbursed by the FBI to make them look like the "good guys" but they are the ones who made things WORSE


yes LaVoy Finicum was MURDERED and it was pre-meditated.
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So far this is what I believe, too. I want to see more videos though.
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Re: The LaVoy Finicum shooting is a set up for humanity. Please watch the top video and THINK! THERE WAS NO BLOOD IN THE SNOW!
I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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I can answer this... when you fall down in snow gushing blood it doesn't pool unless the snow is so far below freezing that the body temperature wouldn't melt it. Meaning that snow was deep and he fell on top of it. The spot where the blood made contact with the ground would melt the snow underneath it and the blood would take the path of least resistance and flow down, under the snow, under the body and into the ground. The only place you could probably see it would be if you had a lot of splatter. Like a .308 or bigger hitting the head. .223 or NATO could do it but it has to be a clean enough shot to grab the proper propulsion to remove a chunk of the exit wound.

Gun flashes would depend on the muzzle break. Any tactical weapon should be significantly supressed. Better than milspec anyway. The last thing you need is to give someone a flash target in low light situations.

Pleas know I am just speculating on what I have seen in the past. Plus this is still pretty grainy video when zoomed in to make it discernable. I am not saying there aren't things very odd about this video. I am currently doing a double take on the flashes outside of the truck after LaVoy was shot.
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Thank you so much. You just explained it very well. What blood in snow will do, and I had no idea.
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Ok good. Then let me throw a question back at you that I don't understand haha. The flashes outside the truck... why would they be there? Was there reports of concussion grenades? I had not heard any. Bit if I was on a team that shot up a vehicle full of people trying to surrender I may try to convince people that the witness statements were incorrect. That I was not shooting at the truck, I was simply trying to disorient them with non lethal force. Flash would blind them temporarily. That would be the only explanation. Grenades don't blow up in a ball of fire like they show in the movies. It is smoke and debris. Maybe a short flash at the moment of detonation. I guess I don't see what would be flashing outside of the passenger side of Lavoy's truck to begin with.
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Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone.
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Re: The LaVoy Finicum shooting is a set up for humanity. Please watch the top video and THINK! THERE WAS NO BLOOD IN THE SNOW!
I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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Suppressors were used on the guns against white snow. Hard to see. There was blood and I posted the pics more than once. I don't think Lavoy was faking .... I can't think anyone could fake that and in this situation. I want to be able to prove this once and for all.
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The blood I ref. was a spatter pattern. Do I need to go find the pics?
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No, I believe you. You know more about this than most of us. You have a very clear thinking head on you.
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Re: The LaVoy Finicum shooting is a set up for humanity. Please watch the top video and THINK! THERE WAS NO BLOOD IN THE SNOW!
I would say that video explains it all, I never knew why there was no blood or gun flashes...If you get shot 9 times you would think that snow would be turning red fast. The whole thing looks suspect...I mean every other shooting in America in the last year was a hoax why wouldn't this one be...Don't be sucked into the bullshit because they are white constitutionalist milita members...Ya I dont want to admit it either but all this seems like a setup to kickoff something even bigger thats coming. Can anyone answer why theres no blood or gun flashes? Don't you see his body like 20 min later and still no blood on the ground...wtf
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Suppressors were used on the guns against white snow. Hard to see. There was blood and I posted the pics more than once. I don't think Lavoy was faking .... I can't think anyone could fake that and in this situation. I want to be able to prove this once and for all.
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The blood I ref. was a spatter pattern. Do I need to go find the pics?
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Nope. That makes sense. I think people were just looking for big pools like you would get on concrete.
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