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FBI UNDER INVESTIGATION for LaVoy Finicum shooting!!

 
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Mainstream news silent, if it was a black man, it would plastered on all fucking channels. When will these pigs e held accountable? ??????
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Im sure Horowitz will get to the bottom of it and justice will be served.

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The Inspector General in most bureaucracies has been emasculated. DHS didn't have an IG for many years.

It works great when you have an unconstitutional agenda not to have watchdogs.
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Snippets from Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg Opinion:

Even more disconcerting, there was sufficient evidence, the District Court recognized, to support Robbins’ allegation that BLM employees filed false criminal charges against him, claiming that he forcibly interfered with a federal officer. Federal prosecutors took up the cause, but Robbins was acquitted by a jury in less than 30 minutes.[Footnote 1] A news account reported that the jurors “were appalled at the actions of the government,” one of them commenting that “Robbins could not have been railroaded any worse … if he worked for Union Pacific.” Id., at 852.

The Court has held that the Government may not unnecessarily penalize the exercise of constitutional rights. This principle has been applied, most notably, to protect the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment. See, e.g., Umbehr, 518 U. S., at 674–675, 686 (freedom of speech); O’Hare Truck Service, Inc. v. City of Northlake, 518 U. S. 712, 716–720 (1996) (freedom of association); Sherbert v. Verner, 374 U. S. 398, 403–406 (1963) (freedom of religion). But it has also been deployed to protect other constitutional guarantees, including the privilege against self-incrimination, Turley, 414 U. S., at 82–84, the right to trial by a jury, Jackson, 390 U. S., at 581–583, and the right to travel, Memorial Hospital v. Maricopa County, 415 U. S. 250, 254–262 (1974). The principle should apply here too. The constitutional guarantee of just compensation would be worthless if federal agents were permitted to harass and punish landowners who refuse to give up property without it. The Fifth Amendment, therefore, must be read to forbid government action calculated to acquire private property coercively and cost-free, and measures taken in retaliation for the owner’s resistance to uncompensated taking. Viewing the facts in the light most favorable to Robbins, BLM agents plainly violated his Fifth Amendment right to be free of such coercion.

Thirty-six years ago, the Court created the Bivens remedy. In doing so, it assured that federal officials would be subject to the same constraints as state officials in dealing with the fundamental rights of the people who dwell in this land. Today, the Court decides that elaboration of Bivens to cover Robbins’ case should be left to Congress. Ante, at 23. But see supra, at 14, n. 6. The Bivens analog to §1983, however, is hardly an obscure part of the Court’s jurisprudence. If Congress wishes to codify and further define the Bivens remedy, it may do so at anytime. Unless and until Congress acts, however, the Court should not shy away from the effort to ensure that bedrock constitutional rights do not become “merely precatory.” Passman, 442 U. S., at 242.

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Until clinton is in prison, to me the fbi is all smoking man, and no Mulders or Scullys.
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The man was murdered. Hunted like game, and killed. This should hit every American straight in the gut, if it doesn't shake your core, then your part of them. It's very clear, the trained forces will kill us, just doing my job is the justification. We are being killed with our own money! We supply them the means.... People need to wake up! We are being pinned against each other by just a few sadistic creeps. We the people are the fucking POWER!
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How can they be under investigation for fixing abuses and at the same time be investigating the hilary emails?
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this is what they call a "dog and pony show"
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Really? LaVoy Finicum was a stupid fucking idiot just asking for it! And he should not even have been there in the first place.
In fact, they're all idiots! What the fuck does anyone expect but an outcome like this?


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The man was trying to point out and change corruption in our government, and also the fact they want to control all your resources and food.

I suppose if you are not a landowner or farmer, you wouldnt give a shit, but in case you are to stupid to understand it.....you can only regulate people so much and when you take away from them the means to support their families, they will defend it to the death. Truly a concept you obviously do not know anything about.

Its people like Lavoy who fought in WW2 who put their country before their own fears. If I were in a war its men like him I would rather have fighting with me, not your pussy piece of shit bootlicking ass.
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Well acting like a fucking idiot really didn't change things the way he wanted, did it? iamwith
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two toadies in the same thread.

Lavoy got himself killed because he angered the orcs. Entirely his fault.

of course. The american cowardly appeaser and apologist for tyranny in stark relief.

There must be millions of them. Thank God for gummint skooling and the MSM.
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The police were using OC gas to provoke the remaining passengers into leaving the car, LIKELY to be shot.

They can't get away with their terrible tactics. Why couldn't the authorities allow them to meet the sheriff? The whole thing was a setup.
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bump
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mother fucking cowards
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bump
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I believe I actually met lavoy many years ago in N Dakota at an in-laws. That being said. I still think it was probably a hit.
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how come you stupids are actually shown the video proof, and see the officer almost ran over by LaVoy, far as I can see he DID run him over or hit him with the truck. do you think if you hit the FBI with your truck they're not going to shoot at you? good luck with your long difficult lives.
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Fuck you! If you saw him hit the idiot then you also saw said idiot jump in front of his rig. You're a fuckin ignoranus!
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I want to see the fingerprints on the gun. I want to see the fingerprints on the bullets. I want to see the fingerprints on the magazine. If he put it on himself he would have loaded it himself. He was a legal carrier. His prints should be all over it if it was his. I want to know who owned the gun. Was it in his name? Where did it originate? Was it a stolen gun? Why would he have a gun that wasn't his? It was planted after they murdered him. I want to know the guns history. I guarantee you it is a gun from a prior crime. Probably new York or DC. I want answers to these questions. And so should you.
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I want to see the fingerprints on the gun. I want to see the fingerprints on the bullets. I want to see the fingerprints on the magazine. If he put it on himself he would have loaded it himself. He was a legal carrier. His prints should be all over it if it was his. I want to know who owned the gun. Was it in his name? Where did it originate? Was it a stolen gun? Why would he have a gun that wasn't his? It was planted after they murdered him. I want to know the guns history. I guarantee you it is a gun from a prior crime. Probably new York or DC. I want answers to these questions. And so should you.
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Me too.
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New Video Released by "The Oregonian" - March 8, 2016

In-Car Finicum Shooting Video Synched with FBI Aerial Video

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Published on Mar 8, 2016

In a presentation at the Deschutes County Sheriff's office, a video presentation was shown combining the FBI's aerial footage of the LaVoy Finicum shooting with Shauna Cox's cellphone video from in the car.
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That was murder.
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Wow! Hawk just showed what the 5 FBI guys really did! Might have to catch the archive of it later to see it.



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I want to know what was on those 25 dvds that they provided to the "press" that there was there as well.
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Wow! Hawk just showed what the 5 FBI guys really did! Might have to catch the archive of it later to see it.



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I might have to catch it later I was just catching up and speculating to myself part of the reason might be whatever they did as they huddled around his dying body and then them obviously flipping him off. But I am not sure......I think we need to wait for the families autopsy if they did an independent one and for their reaction.
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Sheriff Shane Nelson and Malheur County District Attorney Dan Norris traveled to Washington DC to present the results of their investigation to federal authorities. According to Sheriff Nelson, they have "conclusive evidence" of misconduct by the FBI team - including purposely lying to local authorities about the number of shots they fired.



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The man was trying to point out and change corruption in our government, and also the fact they want to control all your resources and food.

I suppose if you are not a landowner or farmer, you wouldnt give a shit, but in case you are to stupid to understand it.....you can only regulate people so much and when you take away from them the means to support their families, they will defend it to the death. Truly a concept you obviously do not know anything about.

Its people like Lavoy who fought in WW2 who put their country before their own fears. If I were in a war its men like him I would rather have fighting with me, not your pussy piece of shit bootlicking ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70491268


Well acting like a fucking idiot really didn't change things the way he wanted, did it? iamwith
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two toadies in the same thread.

Lavoy got himself killed because he angered the orcs. Entirely his fault.

of course. The american cowardly appeaser and apologist for tyranny in stark relief.

There must be millions of them. Thank God for gummint skooling and the MSM.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The police were using OC gas to provoke the remaining passengers into leaving the car, LIKELY to be shot.

They can't get away with their terrible tactics. Why couldn't the authorities allow them to meet the sheriff? The whole thing was a setup.
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They have assured that WHEN (not if) there is another stand-off like this there will be NO negotiations, since they have shown with the ambush they can't be trusted.
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The man was murdered. Hunted like game, and killed. This should hit every American straight in the gut, if it doesn't shake your core, then your part of them. It's very clear, the trained forces will kill us, just doing my job is the justification. We are being killed with our own money! We supply them the means.... People need to wake up! We are being pinned against each other by just a few sadistic creeps. We the people are the fucking POWER!
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hesright
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Trial By YouTube: Mainstream Media Use Second-hand Oregon Account to Cast Blame on Dead Rancher

There exists a famous quote often attributed to 1918 US Senator Hiram Warren Johnson, who once said, “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The same could be said for Waco, or Ruby Ridge – or with the federal government’s version of recent events in Burns, Oregon.

What really happened on Highway 395? We’re not sure yet, but in the meantime, it seems as if the mainstream media have already decided who is guilty and and who is not.
Regarding the Tuesday evening’s events at the Oregon Standoff, where federal agents shot and killed rancher Robert ‘Lavoy’ Finicum, a campaign of disinformation appears to be rapidly underway. The following is a prime exhibit of how the mainstream media can spin a story to favor the government version of events.

The Washington Post’s brash headline reads, “Report: LaVoy Finicum, armed with a handgun, reached for his waistband just before he was shot.”

[link to 21stcenturywire.com]
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Most the people commenting here are cowards... Get used to being treated like slaves because its coming.. Stand up or die a slave...
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if Finicum died from a shot to the heart,

how did his head get blown off?
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This was my question. Why did they have to reconstruct his head if all the shots were to the torso?
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Trial By YouTube: Mainstream Media Use Second-hand Oregon Account to Cast Blame on Dead Rancher

There exists a famous quote often attributed to 1918 US Senator Hiram Warren Johnson, who once said, “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The same could be said for Waco, or Ruby Ridge – or with the federal government’s version of recent events in Burns, Oregon.

What really happened on Highway 395? We’re not sure yet, but in the meantime, it seems as if the mainstream media have already decided who is guilty and and who is not.
Regarding the Tuesday evening’s events at the Oregon Standoff, where federal agents shot and killed rancher Robert ‘Lavoy’ Finicum, a campaign of disinformation appears to be rapidly underway. The following is a prime exhibit of how the mainstream media can spin a story to favor the government version of events.

The Washington Post’s brash headline reads, “Report: LaVoy Finicum, armed with a handgun, reached for his waistband just before he was shot.”

[link to 21stcenturywire.com]
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GLP is included in this article.
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Wow! Hawk just showed what the 5 FBI guys really did! Might have to catch the archive of it later to see it.



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I might have to catch it later I was just catching up and speculating to myself part of the reason might be whatever they did as they huddled around his dying body and then them obviously flipping him off. But I am not sure......I think we need to wait for the families autopsy if they did an independent one and for their reaction.
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That's exactly Hawk's theory!
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You have questions about the LaVoy Finicum shooting, we have answers

Q. On the day Finicum was shot, how did the tactical plan develop before the stop and how far up the chain of command did it originate?

A. The plan was devised by the FBI's elite Hostage Rescue Team and approved by Greg Bretzing, FBI special agent in charge in Oregon. The plan also was reviewed by top officials at FBI headquarters and at the Oregon State Police.

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The same one that's under investigation now?
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Wow! Hawk just showed what the 5 FBI guys really did! Might have to catch the archive of it later to see it.



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I might have to catch it later I was just catching up and speculating to myself part of the reason might be whatever they did as they huddled around his dying body and then them obviously flipping him off. But I am not sure......I think we need to wait for the families autopsy if they did an independent one and for their reaction.
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That's exactly Hawk's theory!
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Really? Well I am not the only one with this line of thinking.....it's a solid theory. It really makes sense I also wonder what elite national fbi team means even.

lavoy was murdered shot in the back and if I am not mistaken in the places called out in an early video of the shooting you know the one where they slowed it down...shot one shot two I think it might come close to lining up with the first three shots. but I haven't looked into it but one lower side of back..they said it was last but maybe first idk I am still taking it all in.





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