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The Hebrew Bible is a Spiritual Magnet.

 
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The Hebrew Bible is a spiritual magnet. Anyone who reads it searching for truth and without prejudice , finds themselves moved in the heart and challenged in the mind. Having said that, the influence it has over people is not always life enhancing. Some people get so moved by the writings, they go out on missions to weed out the heretics and find in the Bible a justification for burning witches to purify them. The Hebrew Bible inspires the spirit and invigorates the soul. It doesn't necessarily improve one's nature. People who like to burn down structures, will find in the Bible reason to do so. And people who love to help and succor others, will find in the Bible reasons to do so. The Hebrew Bible intensifies one's spiritual nature. For better or for worse. But whatever else one can say about it, it is a book of great power. It inspired the Greeks to have it translated and the so called New Testament completed the stories in the Hebrew Bible with the coming of the Messiah. Only trouble was that the followers of this new messianic religion were allowed to cease and desist Jewish dietary laws and circumcision. No longer had to keep the strict laws of Shabaat. To be redeemed all one had to do was to embrace the Messiah, and one's sins are washed away.
This had the emotional affect of feeling one is born again. What a relief! One is no longer dammed for what one has done. Great feeling. But one has to keep coming back to the church because one keeps sinning and the church is where one finds succor from the shame and pains of living.
The Jews have a much harder religion and their loyalty to the God that condemns them is unparalleled in any other religion. Judaism is not an easy way out from sin. No one dies for anyone else except the soldier who throws himself on the grenade to save his brothers in arms. There is always consequence for sin. But the consequence is a work of Divine Art.
What I am saying is that additions to the Hebrew Bible and New Testament are uninspiring to me and very unnecessary. I don't believe in a literal reading of the Bible. It is A mythology of One God.
It is a work of art. Anyone who adds to it, lessens it. And it only needs the gospels where Jesus is quoted, where He responds to questions asked him. The rest should be learned as a study of a miracle, that miracle being the Nation of The JEWS and their influence on Mankind.
Anyway, the CHRISTIAN doctrine you bring here has no power but what it steals from the Hebrew Messianic motifs.
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Keep on telling yourself that. It's the only book that says Jewish are chosen, of course you think that book is the 'all that is'.
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The NT was written in Greek.
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The NT was written in Greek.
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Romans 2:28-29

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
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Romans 9:6-8

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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Revelation 3.9 Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-- I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
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Romans 11:28-32

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.



The first shall be last and the last first.
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The NT was written in Greek.
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Revelation 3.9 Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-- I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
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This also goes for those who are grafted into the promise,
The satanists under the churches posing as Gods people.
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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No.
The Christian messiah is the Messiah of the Christians.
The Jews have already been redeemed as a nation, by having a homeland in the Land of the promise to Abraham.
Personal salvation is a matter of each and every Jew finding out that Jesus of Nazareth is a legitimate Hebrew prophet, whose behavior must be studied to achieve the best understanding of the TORAH of Moses.
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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No.
The Christian messiah is the Messiah of the Christians.
The Jews have already been redeemed as a nation, by having a homeland in the Land of the promise to Abraham.
Personal salvation is a matter of each and every Jew finding out that Jesus of Nazareth is a legitimate Hebrew prophet, whose behavior must be studied to achieve the best understanding of the TORAH of Moses.
 Quoting: Hebrew Prophet


Prove to me that he was a prophet by hebraic halachic standards.
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The Hebrew Bible is a spiritual magnet. Anyone who reads it searching for truth and without prejudice , finds themselves moved in the heart and challenged in the mind. Having said that, the influence it has over people is not always life enhancing. Some people get so moved by the writings, they go out on missions to weed out the heretics and find in the Bible a justification for burning witches to purify them. The Hebrew Bible inspires the spirit and invigorates the soul. It doesn't necessarily improve one's nature. People who like to burn down structures, will find in the Bible reason to do so. And people who love to help and succor others, will find in the Bible reasons to do so. The Hebrew Bible intensifies one's spiritual nature. For better or for worse. But whatever else one can say about it, it is a book of great power. It inspired the Greeks to have it translated and the so called New Testament completed the stories in the Hebrew Bible with the coming of the Messiah. Only trouble was that the followers of this new messianic religion were allowed to cease and desist Jewish dietary laws and circumcision. No longer had to keep the strict laws of Shabaat. To be redeemed all one had to do was to embrace the Messiah, and one's sins are washed away.
This had the emotional affect of feeling one is born again. What a relief! One is no longer dammed for what one has done. Great feeling. But one has to keep coming back to the church because one keeps sinning and the church is where one finds succor from the shame and pains of living.
The Jews have a much harder religion and their loyalty to the God that condemns them is unparalleled in any other religion. Judaism is not an easy way out from sin. No one dies for anyone else except the soldier who throws himself on the grenade to save his brothers in arms. There is always consequence for sin. But the consequence is a work of Divine Art.
What I am saying is that additions to the Hebrew Bible and New Testament are uninspiring to me and very unnecessary. I don't believe in a literal reading of the Bible. It is A mythology of One God.
It is a work of art. Anyone who adds to it, lessens it. And it only needs the gospels where Jesus is quoted, where He responds to questions asked him. The rest should be learned as a study of a miracle, that miracle being the Nation of The JEWS and their influence on Mankind.
Anyway, the CHRISTIAN doctrine you bring here has no power but what it steals from the Hebrew Messianic motifs.
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It's also a verbal labrynth!
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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No.
The Christian messiah is the Messiah of the Christians.
The Jews have already been redeemed as a nation, by having a homeland in the Land of the promise to Abraham.
Personal salvation is a matter of each and every Jew finding out that Jesus of Nazareth is a legitimate Hebrew prophet, whose behavior must be studied to achieve the best understanding of the TORAH of Moses.
 Quoting: Hebrew Prophet


Prove to me that he was a prophet by hebraic halachic standards.
 Quoting: Sky Ward


The Jews said that after the destruction of the first temple, there would be no prophets except for babies and the mentally ill.
But God had different plans.
So it is impossible to prove by halacha, what is a matter of faith.
The most important mitsvah in a spiritual life, is the telling of truth to one's self.

EVERYTHING IN A PERSON'S LIFE IS A REFLECTION OF THE LOVE OF TRUTH.
I chose to believe that Jesus was a true prophet because of the great influence he has in the lives of billions of people. His influence was given over these people so that they could have hope for personal redemption. All of this was an act of love for God to the meek and innocents of the nations. Jesus brought the idea of one god to an empire that believed in pagan mythologies. That makes him a legitimate prophet.
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That's nice.
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Good stuff OP.
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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Jesus was NOT a Christian and did NOT create a group religion. Men and satanists do that.

Jesus taught that your religion is your PERSONAL relationship with your Inner Divine Spirit and he demonstrated that when he went off to MEDITATE and connect with the Inner Father which is the only way you can connect with the inner Father.

exactly none of the great avatars/masters/ christs who visited this world by incarnation every created a groupy religion. NEVER. Not Buddha.. nor Mohammed nor the Oriental masters or the ones who brought teachings now labeled as hinduism.

NOT ONE OF THEM. Masters comes to teach..
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all the books placed out there on god and spiritual matters are magnets.

And for those ready for cosmology and the celestial government would be advised to read the Urantia Book which IS an actual HEAVEN/CELESTIAL revelation.

I smell Mr. Baloney coming around perhaps.. so thanks for the bump in advance Mr. baloney. 4229 still
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So, are you saying that you believe the christian messiah is the messiah, OP?
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No.
The Christian messiah is the Messiah of the Christians.
The Jews have already been redeemed as a nation, by having a homeland in the Land of the promise to Abraham.
Personal salvation is a matter of each and every Jew finding out that Jesus of Nazareth is a legitimate Hebrew prophet, whose behavior must be studied to achieve the best understanding of the TORAH of Moses.
 Quoting: Hebrew Prophet


Prove to me that he was a prophet by hebraic halachic standards.
 Quoting: Sky Ward


The Jews said that after the destruction of the first temple, there would be no prophets except for babies and the mentally ill.
But God had different plans.
So it is impossible to prove by halacha, what is a matter of faith.
The most important mitsvah in a spiritual life, is the telling of truth to one's self.

EVERYTHING IN A PERSON'S LIFE IS A REFLECTION OF THE LOVE OF TRUTH.
I chose to believe that Jesus was a true prophet because of the great influence he has in the lives of billions of people. His influence was given over these people so that they could have hope for personal redemption. All of this was an act of love for God to the meek and innocents of the nations. Jesus brought the idea of one god to an empire that believed in pagan mythologies. That makes him a legitimate prophet.
 Quoting: Hebrew Prophet


there were those of the talmud back then but they were not Jews.. JEW was added to your bible 1700+ AD. by the Khazars who come originally from MONGOLIA and are the communist bastards in modern days who were the BOLSHEVIKS who tried to take over control of Russia and succeeded for a time. their country was called "the soviet union"...

And they took over modern day "Israel" during a process set up during world wars 1 and 2. And all this war shit in the middle east is about creating GREATER ISRAEL and you ones better be watching of that and stop supporting of it for it is NOT a divine project.
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Anyway, the CHRISTIAN doctrine you bring here has no power but what it steals from the Hebrew Messianic motifs.
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Zec 4:6

Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
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Gentiles are envious of the relationship between God and the Hebrews. They try to rationalize their declaration that they have been grafted onto the tree of life, by replacing the Jews that sinned and lost their rights to this blessing.

Envy is a terrible thing. Cain killed his brother because he had been blessed by God. Seems the blessing didn't do Abel much good.
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Without the keys it seems to do more harm than good, as it is usually interpreted literally by those who would approach it as a typical book.
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Without the keys it seems to do more harm than good, as it is usually interpreted literally by those who would approach it as a typical book.
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it's a boat
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Without the keys it seems to do more harm than good, as it is usually interpreted literally by those who would approach it as a typical book.
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it's a boat
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a bablos boat
made from papyrus
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Without the keys it seems to do more harm than good, as it is usually interpreted literally by those who would approach it as a typical book.
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it's a boat
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a bablos boat
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Sorry Schlomo there's only I Messiah and He's coming to earth (again) soon. You are dead men walking.
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Gentiles are envious of the relationship between God and the Hebrews. They try to rationalize their declaration that they have been grafted onto the tree of life, by replacing the Jews that sinned and lost their rights to this blessing.

Envy is a terrible thing. Cain killed his brother because he had been blessed by God. Seems the blessing didn't do Abel much good.
 Quoting: Hebrew Prophet



None of your doctrines existed before the flood, they were created by campfire to elevate your people. There's much older history / religion that closely resembles modern day, however it elevates everyone.. We aren't envious, we're simply done with you all thinking you're over us, and we are here to serve you..



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Schlomo does not know what a Hebrew or a Gentile is, he thinks he's Hebrew (probably Khazar- Edomite or Canaanite). The 12 tribes are Hebrew and Israelite and Judah is not even part of Israel currently. Keep following the "dream".





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