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Starting March 27 in New York, paper drug prescriptions will be outlawed and doctors who don't comply face fines and imprisonment.

One major problem with this law is there will be a database of what prescriptions everyone is taking so the government can "monitor for abuse."

Imagine now if you're a law abiding citizen with a registered handgun and you are now prescribed a medicine that the government feels is used for mental instability, under the SAFE ACT, your firearms can be confiscated.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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you are now prescribed a medicine that the government feels is used for mental instability, under the SAFE ACT, your firearms can be confiscated.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396


Phew, thank God!

I don't need timebombs on psychotropics with an arsenal.

Wait, I think you're arguing in FAVOR of mentally unstable people possessing semi-automatic assault rifles?

You're saying you want every loony nut-job from here to Oxnard in possession of hand cannons so, at their crazy whim, can start shooting up the goddamned place???

THIS IS YOUR UTOPIA???

Listen: When a nutsack on 4 different anti-depressants stars having homicidal thoughts and your children are on a field trip to the zoo, and this guy goes in there all Rambo...you're going to feel good about it because they were within their rights to do so?

I mean it's okay as long as he comes to justice, right?

So we can kill your kids as long as there's a fair trial, is that what you're here to say?

Why do you want children dead, especially your own?

Even a Tard can see that this is way to get rid of the crazies having guns and still letting rational people have them.

The alternative is to just let NOBODY have them.
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How much did you get paid to post that?

If you see no problems with this government intrusion, you're either an idiot or a government shill.
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How much did you get paid to post that?

If you see no problems with this government intrusion, you're either an idiot or a government shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396


Some intrusions are okay, OP.

People, on the whole, are intensely stupid and irresponsible that's not even to mention crazy, insane, mentally unstable.

When I read posts like yours I think "Oh, there's a criminal who wants to remain hidden."

You self-identify.
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How much did you get paid to post that?

If you see no problems with this government intrusion, you're either an idiot or a government shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396

Agreed he is a shill

PS half of Congress is on anti-depressants someone researched a few years ago

Should we take away their ability to make LAWS?
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How much did you get paid to post that?

If you see no problems with this government intrusion, you're either an idiot or a government shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396


Some intrusions are okay, OP.

People, on the whole, are intensely stupid and irresponsible that's not even to mention crazy, insane, mentally unstable.

When I read posts like yours I think "Oh, there's a criminal who wants to remain hidden."

You self-identify.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind


"Oh, there's a criminal"

No. I'm a father of a son who is mentally disabled and I have a registered firearm. My firearm is locked when it isn't in my possession. People like me who follow the law, face having our firearms confiscated and our rights destroyed all because of a "maybe". "Maybe" this could happen if my son gets a hold of it, so my rights need to be destroyed.

You want government to steal my property and forfeit my right because you and antigun liberals in government want people disarmed. Screw you and everyone like you.
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good idea , government should know everything about citizens health and well being , to better adjust policies .
Think about it as big Dad and Mom's
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"Oh, there's a criminal"

No. I'm a father of a son who is mentally disabled and I have a registered firearm. My firearm is locked when it isn't in my possession. People like me who follow the law, face having our firearms confiscated and our rights destroyed all because of a "maybe". "Maybe" this could happen if my son gets a hold of it, so my rights need to be destroyed.

You want government to steal my property and forfeit my right because you and antigun liberals in government want people disarmed. Screw you and everyone like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396


I don't care if you have a firearm.

I don't want your son to have a firearm.

I wouldn't support taking your firearm, as it's yours and not your son's.

I am not anti-gun nor am I a liberal.

I think it's great to remove guns from crazy people or people who cannot make mentally stable choices in how they use them.

That does not make me liberal or anti-gun.

Nor does it make me a shill.

You're so ready to lash out and hate that you can't think in a linear fashion.

Maybe you shouldn't have a gun, actually...
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you are now prescribed a medicine that the government feels is used for mental instability, under the SAFE ACT, your firearms can be confiscated.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68863396


Phew, thank God!

I don't need timebombs on psychotropics with an arsenal.

Wait, I think you're arguing in FAVOR of mentally unstable people possessing semi-automatic assault rifles?

You're saying you want every loony nut-job from here to Oxnard in possession of hand cannons so, at their crazy whim, can start shooting up the goddamned place???

THIS IS YOUR UTOPIA???

Listen: When a nutsack on 4 different anti-depressants stars having homicidal thoughts and your children are on a field trip to the zoo, and this guy goes in there all Rambo...you're going to feel good about it because they were within their rights to do so?

I mean it's okay as long as he comes to justice, right?

So we can kill your kids as long as there's a fair trial, is that what you're here to say?

Why do you want children dead, especially your own?

Even a Tard can see that this is way to get rid of the crazies having guns and still letting rational people have them.

The alternative is to just let NOBODY have them.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind


let me tell you a little story..the medical data base and networking groundwork was laid almost a full 2 decades before they really started to brainwash the masses on how "important and helpful" this Nazi bs would be to them and they started that about 15 yrs ago (same time the patriot act was passed)..so for 35 yrs they have been prepping for this with no LAW behind them..this is another Marxist BS scam to monitor people and things they have no right to monitor people and contrary to what you may believe or claim it is not for benevolent or beneficial reasons..just another act of treason and a system to abuse humans by commie scum
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maybe we should take their car away from them too!
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Just another reason not to live in N.Y.
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no, its a good thing prevents drug dealers from

faking prescriptions
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let me tell you a little story..the medical data base and networking groundwork was laid almost a full 2 decades before they really started to brainwash the masses on how "important and helpful" this Nazi bs would be to them and they started that about 15 yrs ago (same time the patriot act was passed)..so for 35 yrs they have been prepping for this with no LAW behind them..this is another Marxist BS scam to monitor people and things they have no right to monitor people and contrary to what you may believe or claim it is not for benevolent or beneficial reasons..just another act of treason and a system to abuse humans by commie scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70493990


Here's the thing: You can live your life like that...as if every single proposal has some secret draconian undertone to it...or you can choose to have faith that the forces of Good find a way to thwart draconian intentions when necessary.

I am MANDATED to believe that taking guns away from lunatics is a GOOD THING.

Any other thought I might have is inferior to the former.

I choose to have superior thoughts. Until such a time as I'm proven wrong, should that be the case, then we have to fight against the negative forces in our lives. Individually and collectively.

Meanwhile, everything you "MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!" hysterics have said was going to happen hasn't happened.

I don't know a single person who has had their rights trounced upon by Patriot Act, Illegal wiretapping, or any of that horseshit.

Want to know why? Because me and everyone I know aren't doing anything criminal. Actually, some of them are lol and you know what? No spooky database has them rounded up at night or thrown into concentration camps or anything.

Life goes on as normal for normal people.

Christ, the only effect I've personally seen of ANYTHING is Obamacare/AHCA. My personal experience of it is that I now have highly affordable Health care that saved my life and my family's finances just 3 months after reluctantly getting involved with it.

Go figure.
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paper presciptions can be used to buy cheaper drugs outside the US. This is to force people to purchase overpriced drugs by limiting where they can buy.
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maybe we should take their car away from them too!
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Not too many people have a car in New York, but if you're on heavy meds, you may not want to operate a motor vehicle. 9/10ths of your RX suggest you don't.

If you're the type of wanker to ignore that, you might need your license suspended.
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Yeah, trust the liberal government, they have your freedom and best interests in their control. I'm crazy for trusting them with government, right?
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This quote from the article sums up the reasoning behind this perfectly:

"Just as doctors putting away their pads will face a culture change in New York, so, too, will patients, who will no longer be able to shop around for the shortest waiting time or the best price for their medications."

Any other reasoning provided is utter bullshit. This is about money for drug companies and more control over people's lives for the government.
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Any other reasoning provided is utter bullshit. This is about money for drug companies and more control over people's lives for the government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71680444


What will happen is that pharmacies will court doctors to recommend/use them because of their competitive pricing.

I've already seen this happening.

If you want your RX to go OOC you just need to give your provider the website to provide their id number and what you need.

I've seen that too.

You hysterics are hysterical.

No linear, rational thought, just fear and hate.

Relax. Bigger fish to fry.
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let me tell you a little story..the medical data base and networking groundwork was laid almost a full 2 decades before they really started to brainwash the masses on how "important and helpful" this Nazi bs would be to them and they started that about 15 yrs ago (same time the patriot act was passed)..so for 35 yrs they have been prepping for this with no LAW behind them..this is another Marxist BS scam to monitor people and things they have no right to monitor people and contrary to what you may believe or claim it is not for benevolent or beneficial reasons..just another act of treason and a system to abuse humans by commie scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70493990


Here's the thing: You can live your life like that...as if every single proposal has some secret draconian undertone to it...or you can choose to have faith that the forces of Good find a way to thwart draconian intentions when necessary.

I am MANDATED to believe that taking guns away from lunatics is a GOOD THING.

Any other thought I might have is inferior to the former.

I choose to have superior thoughts. Until such a time as I'm proven wrong, should that be the case, then we have to fight against the negative forces in our lives. Individually and collectively.

Meanwhile, everything you "MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!" hysterics have said was going to happen hasn't happened.

I don't know a single person who has had their rights trounced upon by Patriot Act, Illegal wiretapping, or any of that horseshit.

Want to know why? Because me and everyone I know aren't doing anything criminal. Actually, some of them are lol and you know what? No spooky database has them rounded up at night or thrown into concentration camps or anything.

Life goes on as normal for normal people.

Christ, the only effect I've personally seen of ANYTHING is Obamacare/AHCA. My personal experience of it is that I now have highly affordable Health care that saved my life and my family's finances just 3 months after reluctantly getting involved with it.

Go figure.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind


not secret I know one of the people who did it..moved himself and his family across the US as he did his work..while you all slept..this is straight out of the Nazi handbook your denial of this doesn't make it not real..you cant give people these powers especially doctors, lawyers, politicians or LE..its totally insane to sit in denial of the damage and criminality and abuse laws like this have already done to people, the nation and the world..you seriously need to wake and stop worshipping lying filth
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not secret I know one of the people who did it..moved himself and his family across the US as he did his work..while you all slept..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70493990


I'm not sure what this anecdote is attempting to illustrate.



this is straight out of the Nazi handbook your denial of this doesn't make it not real..
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Making an incredible Highway system called the Autobahn was also straight out of the Nazi Handbook.

Not all things Nazis did were evil, you know?


you cant give people these powers especially doctors, lawyers, politicians or LE..its totally insane to sit in denial of the damage and criminality and abuse laws like this have already done to people,
 Quoting:

What people??? Again, I don't know ANYONE who has been victimized by any of these hysterical claims you types make, year after year, reaction after reaction...I just don't know ANY and I know a pretty wide variety of people.

the nation and the world..you seriously need to wake and stop worshipping lying filth
 Quoting:


I don't worship anyone except God, and with God I have no fear of any of this horseshit.

Why are YOU so afraid?

Let's get to the bottom of YOU.
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This already happened to me:


My doc has been using electronic scrpts for months here in NY. I had my bag stolen with almost an entire months supply of a medication in it. My doc would not write me a script to cover the loss because "they are watching him".

Just another unintended consequence of bigger government.

Its already caused issues with a number of my meds and the law has not even actually began yet. I also am on nothing heavy either.


If I went to another state and needed a few day emergency supply, that would probably be ok but it just makes it a pain in the ass to reach out to the doc for something that used to be simple and routine.
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This already happened to me:


My doc has been using electronic scrpts for months here in NY. I had my bag stolen with almost an entire months supply of a medication in it. My doc would not write me a script to cover the loss because "they are watching him".

Just another unintended consequence of bigger government.

Its already caused issues with a number of my meds and the law has not even actually began yet. I also am on nothing heavy either.


If I went to another state and needed a few day emergency supply, that would probably be ok but it just makes it a pain in the ass to reach out to the doc for something that used to be simple and routine.
 Quoting: anomenom


Did you file a police report? A copy of the Police report given to the DR. should suffice to cover any suspicion on his part.

Obviously these are the adjustment days, and questions like this will be addressed and sorted out as they always are.
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Yes i had the police report.
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Yes i had the police report.
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Than your Doctor is kind of a paranoid douche.
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This already happened to me:


My doc has been using electronic scrpts for months here in NY. I had my bag stolen with almost an entire months supply of a medication in it. My doc would not write me a script to cover the loss because "they are watching him".

Just another unintended consequence of bigger government.

Its already caused issues with a number of my meds and the law has not even actually began yet. I also am on nothing heavy either.


If I went to another state and needed a few day emergency supply, that would probably be ok but it just makes it a pain in the ass to reach out to the doc for something that used to be simple and routine.
 Quoting: anomenom


Did you file a police report? A copy of the Police report given to the DR. should suffice to cover any suspicion on his part.

Obviously these are the adjustment days, and questions like this will be addressed and sorted out as they always are.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind

Nope. Not if it's an abusable medication.

Addicts try that trick all the time, and a cop has no way of knowing if you are telling the truth.

The abusers ruin it for everyone else. I bet 4/5 of the people who tell doctors their meds were "stolen" are probably lying and just ran out too fast. Not saying anomenom is lying, just that it happens a lot.
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[...]

You're saying you want every loony nut-job from here to Oxnard in possession of hand cannons so,

[...]
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind


Yes, in Oxnard one needs to be armed,

In the days of the Old West, Oxnard was a fuckin nothing town, literally sealion union and sharkunion fuckin owned it.
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Yes i had the police report.
 Quoting: anomenom


Than your Doctor is kind of a paranoid douche.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind

It's not the doctor's fault.

His ability to prescribe those drugs is on the line. In some cases, even his medical license is.

Blame the government, not the doctor. If a doctor prescribes anything the government sees as "suspicious", they could really screw the doctor over.

If you were a professional that spent several years and $100k+ on becoming a doctor, you would be forced to be paranoid.
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The sea lion Union will always have better MDs

than the sharkunion.
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Nope. Not if it's an abusable medication.

Addicts try that trick all the time, and a cop has no way of knowing if you are telling the truth.

The abusers ruin it for everyone else. I bet 4/5 of the people who tell doctors their meds were "stolen" are probably lying and just ran out too fast. Not saying anomenom is lying, just that it happens a lot.
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If an addict is willing to go through the trouble and risk of making a false police report, they should be rewarded with more drugs.

I'm more willing to bet addicts want the least amount of police interaction as possible.
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It's not the doctor's fault.

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No, it is entirely the Doctor's fault.

The guy comes in with a police report saying his meds were stolen.

He refills the meds, retains a copy of the report, and with no further repetitive patterns...if "The Man" starts asking questions he shows them the report, also from "The Man" and it's a wash.

Period. The man is happy with the man's own report.

They would have to have a long history of this sort of thing with individual paitents to go after the Doctor for abuse.

You're being hysterical.

Maybe things are different in Canada, I don't know.
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Nope. Not if it's an abusable medication.

Addicts try that trick all the time, and a cop has no way of knowing if you are telling the truth.

The abusers ruin it for everyone else. I bet 4/5 of the people who tell doctors their meds were "stolen" are probably lying and just ran out too fast. Not saying anomenom is lying, just that it happens a lot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66557952


If an addict is willing to go through the trouble and risk of making a false police report, they should be rewarded with more drugs.

I'm more willing to bet addicts want the least amount of police interaction as possible.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind

I agree.

In a perfect world, doctors would be able to prescribe whatever they feel is necessary. If an addict happens to OD, that's his fault and the doctor shouldn't be blamed any more than a liquor store employee should be blamed for selling a drunk driver alcohol.

But they can't thanks to our wonderful government.





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