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The Ever Evolving Don...

 
Saddletramp  (OP)

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03/21/2016 08:17 PM
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This is what I mean when I say anti-Trump folks are pro-Hillary.


 Quoting: Chip


I know exactly what you mean, but it's this "Fear" vote that keeps us mired in this bullshit Two Parties that are actually one party mode...

I like Pirro, but I just disagree entirely on this one. Until we break this two party bullshit, we're going to get the choice of the Shit Salad vs the Shit Sandwich...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 03/21/2016 08:19 PM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

"We don't rent pigs!"
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This is what I mean when I say anti-Trump folks are pro-Hillary.


 Quoting: Chip


I know exactly what you mean, but it's this "Fear" vote that keeps us mired in this bullshit Two Parties that are actually one party mode...

I like Pirro, but I just disagree entirely on this one. Until we break this two party bullshit, we're going to get the choice of the Shit Salad vs the Shit Sandwich...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's not the time to play hero on this shit. She wasn't stating an opinion. She laid out exactly what is happening.
 Quoting: Chip


Well I'll just have to see who's running against who when it all comes down....

You should hope I don't vote for Trump, I've never voted for the Presidential Winner yet! Apparently my vote is the kiss of death...

chuckle
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

"We don't rent pigs!"
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This is what I mean when I say anti-Trump folks are pro-Hillary.

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 Quoting: Chip


Chip, I get the whole stop the establishment thing. I do, I really do. I would love to see that happen. I would love to be a part of it. I get the anger of betrayal thing. Iím furious about it. I feel like I have to watch what comes out of my mouth at work and what I post here Iím so angry about it. The national Republican Party and some in my own state have screwed me over time and again. I want nothing whatsoever to do with them. It frustrates the crap out of me that the few core conservatives left in the party still think they can somehow change the party from within and refuse to let the GOP die and go the way of the Whigs. It needs to happen. Those damn traitors need to be completely and publically stripped of their power and influence and deserve to absolutely fly apart and self-destruct at the GOP convention this year.

Donald Trump could be the catalyst for that. He certainly has the popular support and the elite are more terrified of him than I have seen in my lifetime. It is going to be something watching the whole thing fly apart. The bottom line though, is that the ends donít justify the means and I donít Trust trump as far as I could throw one of his hotels.

I initially worked up a hell of a lot more of a response, but most people donít bother reading long complex issue posts. The bottom line is that I donít trust him and I do not believe the system or outlook for it will change so long as people keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Chip and ST seem to go a few rounds every other day. I don't think the two of you are going to convince the other one. But it's a interesting small scale look at what's going on in the country right now. Your both convinced your right and the other is blind. I personally think Trump can't be trusted, Cruz won't get the votes and Hillary's evil incarnate. What a cluster fuck
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Chip and ST seem to go a few rounds every other day. I don't think the two of you are going to convince the other one. But it's a interesting small scale look at what's going on in the country right now. Your both convinced your right and the other is blind. I personally think Trump can't be trusted, Cruz won't get the votes and Hillary's evil incarnate. What a cluster fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70407888


It's all good, I respect Chip. He's genuinely doing what he feels is right for America, I hope he feels the same about me. We just differ on this topic...but hey, that's GLP...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

"We don't rent pigs!"
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This is what I mean when I say anti-Trump folks are pro-Hillary.

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 Quoting: Chip


Chip, I get the whole stop the establishment thing. I do, I really do. I would love to see that happen. I would love to be a part of it. I get the anger of betrayal thing. Iím furious about it. I feel like I have to watch what comes out of my mouth at work and what I post here Iím so angry about it. The national Republican Party and some in my own state have screwed me over time and again. I want nothing whatsoever to do with them. It frustrates the crap out of me that the few core conservatives left in the party still think they can somehow change the party from within and refuse to let the GOP die and go the way of the Whigs. It needs to happen. Those damn traitors need to be completely and publically stripped of their power and influence and deserve to absolutely fly apart and self-destruct at the GOP convention this year.

Donald Trump could be the catalyst for that. He certainly has the popular support and the elite are more terrified of him than I have seen in my lifetime. It is going to be something watching the whole thing fly apart. The bottom line though, is that the ends donít justify the means and I donít Trust trump as far as I could throw one of his hotels.

I initially worked up a hell of a lot more of a response, but most people donít bother reading long complex issue posts. The bottom line is that I donít trust him and I do not believe the system or outlook for it will change so long as people keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
 Quoting: Resister


The last few posts between us all makes me feel much much better. I completely understand all of this post.

Good on ya! Let's keep Hillary out of office! That's all I want. If Cruz ends up being at the top of the Rep totem pole I'll be voting for him...if Trump I'll be voting for him...if they fuck either of those candidates...I'm afraid it over for America. My work is done in this thread.

cheers
 Quoting: Chip


Wow. A happy ending. Maybe we'll all be celebrating a peaceful revolution next fall with a cold one. Until then, it is certainly better to keep talking.



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I just want to know, with NO Ideological backing that anyone can pin down...how can you Trust ANYTHING this Salesman says?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


clappa

GLP is finally waking up.
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Donal Trump is sounding the trumpet of God.

You need to wise up Op.
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And you're delusional equating ANYTHING about Trump's words or actions to God.
Saddletramp  (OP)

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03/21/2016 11:44 PM
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Chip and ST seem to go a few rounds every other day. I don't think the two of you are going to convince the other one. But it's a interesting small scale look at what's going on in the country right now. Your both convinced your right and the other is blind. I personally think Trump can't be trusted, Cruz won't get the votes and Hillary's evil incarnate. What a cluster fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70407888


It's all good, I respect Chip. He's genuinely doing what he feels is right for America, I hope he feels the same about me. We just differ on this topic...but hey, that's GLP...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


No doubt! That is exactly what's going on.

I haven't lost any respect brother. Not gonna happen!

beer
 Quoting: Chip


cheers
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

"We don't rent pigs!"
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ST is on to something. There is no way the cabal is going to let someone into the whitehouse who will challenge their need for greed, power and control.


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Will try the video post again to include imbeds.

Is Trump a trojan horse?

Trump, the "mafia don with a pompadour"
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What would be the point Mr. Senior Forum Moderator? You would only further slander and insult me and anyone I proposed. Civil discussion isn't your thing and neither is observation and deduction as your sophomoric baseless insult of a "conclusion" that anyone who doesn't support Trump is pro-Hillary.

Do I need to say it for you in response like you are some insecure child that needs to hear it? Fine. I do not support Hillary Clinton. The only thing I want to see her accomplish is a prison time.

As for a candidate with solutions, I am exasperated by the whole field at this point including Ted Cruz. I embraced my inner hypocrite though and voted for the non-natural born American because has the best track record of actually working against the establishment and for the constitutional and moral values I want in the Whitehouse.

Happy now?

 Quoting: Resister


When I post "Anybody against Trump is pro Hillary" what do you think I mean?
 Quoting: Chip


That's realistically what it comes down to.
 Quoting: CorrupTED


I honestly am not sure if my message is clear to these guys. Genuinely curious.
 Quoting: Chip


cheers

Last Edited by C4G3 on 03/22/2016 09:45 AM
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