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LaVoy Finicum Was Intentionally Ambushed At ‘Dead Man's Roadblock’ FBI And State Police Implicated

 
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"One of the most egregious infractions by authorities in the Finicum shooting besides the shooting itself is the roadblock with which he was forced off the road.

Having run driving tests at the site at the same specific time of day as the actual incident in the same weather and road conditions, I could not stop before the point of impact where the vehicles were parked blocking the road. I attempted three times and was unsuccessful each time.

It is worth noting that my vehicle was smaller and lighter wieght. I also had 400 lbs less cargo.

This is appropriately deemed a Deadman’s Roadblock because there was no alternative course of travel and the Roadblock was placed at the end of a blind turn in which the driver could not see the roadblock with sufficient time to react and effect a stop before colliding with the components of the roadblock.

A roadblock in and of itself is use of deadly force and in some cases unlawful seizure. In the eventual civil trial and hopefully criminal trial against the officers responsible, It will definitely be argued that the roadblock was either..."

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Pre-meditated murder bump.

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LaVoy Finicum was murdered. Too many lies and cover up attempts to deny it any longer.
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If he was Black and fled arrest, had a police chase and hit a cop he would have been shot in a hail of bullets before he could even get out of the car to draw his gun.

White privilege.
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It was murder under the color of law, plain and simple.

This goes to show you what police and agents are capable of when they are ordered to kill someone. That nice state police officer next door? He's just a murderer when given the right green light.
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i get the same impression with the road block, taking into account a vehicle of that weight and class traveling 55 mph, by the time the driver saw the blockade, meaning from time seen time to react two seconds passed at minimum, meaning per second the vehicle is traveling at 80.66 ft per second at 55 mph. and notice they never released audio recordings. the driver appears to realize she had no time to stop without striking the vehicles used in the blockade, appears she chose to avoid the collision by driving off the road. next is the officers from behind claimed he was reaching for a gun ? and fired, yet the officer located to his front never fired a shot allegedly. this officer ifn front would be able to clearly see, and if suspect was shot in left side it does seem to support the statements by those arrested, they were shot at, he ran out of the vehicle with the impression they came to kill him, and to save the others he ran out and placed hands in the air. if he is right handed why would he reach for his left side for a weapon. next is he wanted to speak to the media ? not someone planning to go rogue by this action, with all the open roads, they could have easily come from behind and from the front and blocked them in.

but to me the press conference, the one speaker left me with the impression he was trying to convince himself more then the media it was justified, the second speaker again raised a red flag, as he seemed he was disturbed about something, like he was dragged into something not to his liking. I am not saying this is the case, until we have polygraphs and more questions answered it is just suspect. but the audio would bring in a lot of answers, yet they keep that part silent. just my opinion's
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shhhhhhh! we are supposed to be ignorant sheep
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in my post best reaction time would mean knowing the road block was there. but normally see it, decide to hit the breaks and then actually hitting the breaks, we are talking a norm of 4 seconds, meaning this heavy weight vehicle had traveled 320 plus feet during those four seconds and then breaks applied, not sure of the year model of the vehicle, when determined then one can accurately reflect how many feet the vehicle would need to come to a complete stop once Brakes were applied. I am sure you now see, the driver had no chance, is this amateur night for road blocks or is this set up to ensure shots were fired ?
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"One of the most egregious infractions by authorities in the Finicum shooting besides the shooting itself is the roadblock with which he was forced off the road.

Having run driving tests at the site at the same specific time of day as the actual incident in the same weather and road conditions, I could not stop before the point of impact where the vehicles were parked blocking the road. I attempted three times and was unsuccessful each time.

It is worth noting that my vehicle was smaller and lighter wieght. I also had 400 lbs less cargo.

This is appropriately deemed a Deadman’s Roadblock because there was no alternative course of travel and the Roadblock was placed at the end of a blind turn in which the driver could not see the roadblock with sufficient time to react and effect a stop before colliding with the components of the roadblock.

A roadblock in and of itself is use of deadly force and in some cases unlawful seizure. In the eventual civil trial and hopefully criminal trial against the officers responsible, It will definitely be argued that the roadblock was either..."

[Cont'd. at link]
[link to overpassesforamerica.com]
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shhhhhhh! we are supposed to be ignorant sheep
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sorry, not really :)
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why would the Officers fire at the suspect from behind with a Officer standing in front of the suspect, meaning if the round goes through the suspect it is now on the way to strike the officer in the front of the suspect ? the one officer making the call was actually the Officer standing in front of the suspect, who had a clear view of the situation. questions that need answers.
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No list of officers onsite, because they were MERCS. Only candidate who would care and go after the truth would be Trump.
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I heard people talking about this right after it happened and I believe it is even against Oregon law to do this type of roadblock. Once the sheriff turned his back on his people and the fed took over, it went downhill.

Shouldn't the FBI still have to follow state law? I'm not saying they would; I'm saying couldn't they be prosecuted with that, if we had an honest system?
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I heard people talking about this right after it happened and I believe it is even against Oregon law to do this type of roadblock. Once the sheriff turned his back on his people and the fed took over, it went downhill.

Shouldn't the FBI still have to follow state law? I'm not saying they would; I'm saying couldn't they be prosecuted with that, if we had an honest system?
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If we had an honest, lawful system...
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Another HOAX.

Another CRISIS ACTOR.

Everything you saw in the video was just another manipulation to deceive you. Hollywood does it ALL OF THE TIME. Why do people believe that same stuff when it's on the New World Order controlled "News"?

Read this article and THINK.

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Shove a predator drone up those Feds Arseholes and roadblock their colons with Hellfire missiles, but of course, this is a democracy and they are innocent until proven guilty even with their "Diplomatic Immunity" status
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Forced off the road?!?

He should have fucking STOPPED!
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whoever was in charge of this chicken shit operation, should be investigated, no way should he have authorized the road block as it was, because 100 times out of a hundred the suspect vehicle would strike the vehicles in the road block, if he is not competent enough to have noticed and still authorized it, he is at minimum negligent. when the Sheriff authorizes them to take charge they do what they feel they need to, but this roadblock be it intentional or not was ensuring that shots were fired, because the suspect vehicle had only two options and both lead to shots fired. one option was to strike the vehicles and the other was to run off the road. and the audio would show when shots were actually fired and there you should find the smoking gun I believe, if there is one. but the road block as it was set up, was negligent to say the least.
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i get the same impression with the road block, taking into account a vehicle of that weight and class traveling 55 mph, by the time the driver saw the blockade, meaning from time seen time to react two seconds passed at minimum, meaning per second the vehicle is traveling at 80.66 ft per second at 55 mph. and notice they never released audio recordings. the driver appears to realize she had no time to stop without striking the vehicles used in the blockade, appears she chose to avoid the collision by driving off the road. next is the officers from behind claimed he was reaching for a gun ? and fired, yet the officer located to his front never fired a shot allegedly. this officer ifn front would be able to clearly see, and if suspect was shot in left side it does seem to support the statements by those arrested, they were shot at, he ran out of the vehicle with the impression they came to kill him, and to save the others he ran out and placed hands in the air. if he is right handed why would he reach for his left side for a weapon. next is he wanted to speak to the media ? not someone planning to go rogue by this action, with all the open roads, they could have easily come from behind and from the front and blocked them in.

but to me the press conference, the one speaker left me with the impression he was trying to convince himself more then the media it was justified, the second speaker again raised a red flag, as he seemed he was disturbed about something, like he was dragged into something not to his liking. I am not saying this is the case, until we have polygraphs and more questions answered it is just suspect. but the audio would bring in a lot of answers, yet they keep that part silent. just my opinion's
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There is no way the speed limit was 55 there. And the road had snow on it. Who's fault was it that he was speeding and driving recklessly?

Who reached into his shirt and tried to grab his gun?
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Who reached into his shirt and tried to grab his gun?
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That dead guy...

Whats'is name...
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Forced off the road?!?

He should have fucking STOPPED!
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Well we got a shill up in da house!
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RIP..Lavoy.......Breitbart, Hastings, etc etc
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"...Termination
Pursuits will be immediately terminated when:
• A sworn supervisor orders pursuit terminated.
OR
• Suspect is known to officer and offense is traffic infraction, misdemeanor. or
nonviolent felony
...."

_________

It looks like Lavoy Finicum should not have fled the first roadblock. He also should have never flailed his body around while he kept opening his big mouth to law enforcement just begging them over and over to shoot him. With his bizzare actions no one could trust what he was capable of. No one planned to "murder" anyone here, it was clear suicide by cop.

And if law enforcement wanted everyone in the car dead, they would have been dead. I'm sure it's not that difficult.

The entire roadblock argument is stupid anyway, because why set up a roadblock with holes if you don't want to stop someone?

In fact, it's looking more like LaVoy Finicum should not have actively participated in and co-led the armed robbery of federal property using guns by threat of force. That alone is no reason to trust him. I could go on and on.

And dipshittery awards go to all who participated and are so shocked that something like this would happen.

What did you expect? A fucking cakewalk?

another do
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Forced off the road?!?

He should have fucking STOPPED!
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Everyone was following their scripts. If it makes you angry that Finicum did not stop, have you considered contacting the script writers to share your concerns?

Have you seen this?

U.S. Gov. Lies to American People and the Troops about Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch

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i get the same impression with the road block, taking into account a vehicle of that weight and class traveling 55 mph, by the time the driver saw the blockade, meaning from time seen time to react two seconds passed at minimum, meaning per second the vehicle is traveling at 80.66 ft per second at 55 mph. and notice they never released audio recordings. the driver appears to realize she had no time to stop without striking the vehicles used in the blockade, appears she chose to avoid the collision by driving off the road. next is the officers from behind claimed he was reaching for a gun ? and fired, yet the officer located to his front never fired a shot allegedly. this officer ifn front would be able to clearly see, and if suspect was shot in left side it does seem to support the statements by those arrested, they were shot at, he ran out of the vehicle with the impression they came to kill him, and to save the others he ran out and placed hands in the air. if he is right handed why would he reach for his left side for a weapon. next is he wanted to speak to the media ? not someone planning to go rogue by this action, with all the open roads, they could have easily come from behind and from the front and blocked them in.

but to me the press conference, the one speaker left me with the impression he was trying to convince himself more then the media it was justified, the second speaker again raised a red flag, as he seemed he was disturbed about something, like he was dragged into something not to his liking. I am not saying this is the case, until we have polygraphs and more questions answered it is just suspect. but the audio would bring in a lot of answers, yet they keep that part silent. just my opinion's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62525243


There is no way the speed limit was 55 there. And the road had snow on it. Who's fault was it that he was speeding and driving recklessly?

Who reached into his shirt and tried to grab his gun?
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lets say you are right, icy roads and doing 35, stopping distances are a lot further, and why set up a road block in a curve with those road conditions and claim everyone is safe, go back and collect your 15 dollars from Soros and let some illegal immigrant take your job for 5 dollars a hour.
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road block on a curve with little to no notice, icy road conditions, one could make a case of premeditation in my opinion.
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No list of officers onsite, because they were MERCS. Only candidate who would care and go after the truth would be Trump.
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he was droned. the missile was the mercs.





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