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Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca

 
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Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Thelema or Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn or Wicca. I've heard horror stories and the major religions warn against it. I'm still interested in using it to improve my life. I want to make contact with angels and God. Do you have any advice or should I stick with prayer?
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I did a spinning clockwise motion and chanted Yahweh's name to invoke him. I don't know if it qualifies as magick.
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Maybe try doing The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram
before you start the spinning and calling, maybe that will help?
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I did a spinning clockwise motion and chanted Yahweh's name to invoke him. I don't know if it qualifies as magick.
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Why are you spinning? lol

Hf
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
what about solomonic magick?
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I did it on keeping my word, I picked it up, then I had a real contact with a spirit, the spirit hated Wicca, Witchcraft, rocks, crystals, spells, divination, and a bunch of other stuff.

I studied for years, and threw it away in a couple days because I saw the truth.

Honestly, Wicca is new shit peddled to look like old shit. It's a gateway religion into deeper pagan stuff.

Thelema, I don't know, but the guys are weird. Too, uh, Crowley or something.

Then Golden Dawn, eh.

Basically, the religions that you have to work to do, what are you getting from it? Sure, better than your run of the mill sit in a pew and sing religions. But still, you can learn anything and not have to be of that religion.

If they knew the symbols, they wouldn't need things like herbs, cauldrons, chalices, etc. If they knew what it meant they wouldn't need it, not even the books.

It was worth it to keep my word to do something, not to stay in it though, because of the characters involved in the whole unruled landscape.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Thelema or Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn or Wicca. I've heard horror stories and the major religions warn against it. I'm still interested in using it to improve my life. I want to make contact with angels and God. Do you have any advice or should I stick with prayer?
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None. You can have a kundalini awakening and be granted phychic/clairvoyant/intuitive magic gifts/the force without all the dogma. Vibrations through the right tones, THC/cbd and pure essential oils/herbs, one can create a pathway back to your higher self and power. Oh, and you must get toxin free to have a healthy high vibration. No coffee, alcohol, sugar or fake food. Only organic and grass fed. Limit dairy. Omit if possible. Hormones can affect pineal gland. To decalcify your pineal glad, eat organic pure grass fed butter from Europe. There is work to do on your ego. Astrology and therapy with a legit holistic liscensed energy psychotherapist/ hypnotherapist can help with that or do the work on tour own. Psychedelic mushrooms can help kick start.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Thelema, for sure.


You can enter Golden Dawn once you're raised up to the necessary level in Thelema.

Most go OTO instead though.

Wiccan is complete and total horseshit and I hate all those fake ass wannabe, goth posers.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
what about solomonic magick?
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Earth quakes.

The demons are angry!


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This is all about You.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I might have asked that question ..bout 10 years ago... kinda crazy.
Keep moving through

All is spirit, the dogma that says otherwise is false.
If you need building blocks and tokens (charms and chants) so be it,
But you should be able to “transcend” through as each individual path reveals what it can for your very own puzzle piece.
Each of us carries our own cross...
Have fun..SCF-truthlie
Maple leaf my ass..St Andrews Cross.
Rgora mo drem
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j15kitty Stuff like this never ends well.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I did a spinning clockwise motion and chanted Yahweh's name to invoke him. I don't know if it qualifies as magick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70823934


Why are you spinning? lol

Hf
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I think this was my post back in the day lol

Anyway...I think if somebody has the passion and the drive to learn something then by all means do it.

Now I don't know about Thelema or Hermetic Order, and only some about wicca, because I am a natural witch.

However, just a word of advice, this is nothing to play around with, if you or anyone ever does end up getting to that point. Take it seriously, have respect for the energies.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Seek Buddhism. As did Allan Bennett.
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Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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One of mine from back in the day was..
When your looking down fighting off parasites from lower realms , you miss the helping hands from above...the faster vibrations want to pull us along as well.
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Maple leaf my ass..St Andrews Cross.
Rgora mo drem
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Seek Buddhism. As did Allan Bennett.
 Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled


He also sought cocaine and heroin for his bipolar issues.

If Crowley couldn't cure Rose's alcoholism, then what sort of Magus was he?
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Do you want torment and vexation of the soul?

Magic is demons playing with YOU; you are the puppet and in control of nothing.

Seek God, light overcomes the darkness and he has all power and has given authority to those who follow him.
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Before Christianity, there were the pagan religions. You don't have to bow and scrape before a deity. Also, pagans don't go on holy wars. And the Summer lands are open to everyone. So many people are afraid if it because of Christanity.

People call it this that or the other thing. When in reality it's Christanity that's at it's core terror based. A supreme being that created the Devil knowing what would happen? Who in the old testament had millions slaughtered?
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I like darkness.
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Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
 Quoting: Hurcules Zeusson




I was going to get these sneakers a few weeks ago, then I was like no be good lol

But yeah no...the universe says T buy me...

chuckle


:P

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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Do you want torment and vexation of the soul?

Magic is demons playing with YOU; you are the puppet and in control of nothing.

Seek God, light overcomes the darkness and he has all power and has given authority to those who follow him.
 Quoting: Shadow and Flame


Says someone whose been scared into thinking. The church called the old deities that in order to scare people into becoming Catholic.
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Seek Buddhism. As did Allan Bennett.
 Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled


He also sought cocaine and heroin for his bipolar issues.

If Crowley couldn't cure Rose's alcoholism, then what sort of Magus was he?
 Quoting: Asmodée


In those days it is what the Doctor prescribed. For asthma and coughs they prescribed heroin. This is before the dangerous drugs act. Bennett was always in bad health and had to leave the country for a better climate due to it.
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And:

[link to bibviz.com]
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
Do you want torment and vexation of the soul?

Magic is demons playing with YOU; you are the puppet and in control of nothing.

Seek God, light overcomes the darkness and he has all power and has given authority to those who follow him.
 Quoting: Shadow and Flame


"They sensed a powerful competitor for the hearts of the people." You're perputating the slander of a god who is good and loving:

[link to www.mesacc.edu (secure)]
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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One day soon it shall be, the pagan religions will return. You shall see.
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
In those days it is what the Doctor prescribed. For asthma and coughs they prescribed heroin. This is before the dangerous drugs act. Bennett was always in bad health and had to leave the country for a better climate due to it.
 Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled


All that Magick, couldn't do a damn thing about Alcoholism or Bipolar.

And the OTO don't like to talk about Graham Bond laying down on a railroad track, either.

Magick killed this:

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Why would you follow a god who created the devil? If he knows all that will happen, he knows how to not make an angel that will rebel.
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Graham Bond was into the Magick thing too? And it killed him?
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j15kitty Stuff like this never ends well.
j16
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See my above posts. You've been scared into believing lies about the pagan deities.
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo
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Graham Bond was into the Magick thing too? And it killed him?
 Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled


He commited suicide, like Bowie's older brother

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j15kitty Stuff like this never ends well.
j16
 Quoting: Judethz


If you ignore this then you are willfully blind to history:

[link to www.politicususa.com (secure)]
“The secret of life, though, is to fall seven times and to get up eight times.”

- "The Alchemist", by Paulo Cohelo





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