Chaol Speaks:Reality, consciousness, time-space, mind, matter, and more

If you can first understand the illusion of infinity you can then begin to understand the infinity of the illusion.

hi U3, thanks. yes, authers philosophy is very compelling. i will seek out Ishmael by Daniel Quinn but i dont use facebook so i will see if i can find anything on that group. sounds interesting. again, thanks

Hi. I looked at some of the info on that but I'm not sure I get it. What do you mean by opposite perspective?

You and me both! lol

We've come a long way, and still have much more to come. Thank you!

Thank you for being a long-time reader. It's a pleasure to provide this information. Let me know if you have any questions or such.

Thanks. I realize much of the material is still a bit complicated (as there is so much new material) but I'm glad you found some parts that resonate.



As neither should, I think. It's kind of a paradox: if there's no one else but you then there's nothing with which to compare yourself. If there's no one including yourself, then there's no one to think, "there's no one".

I suppose that's why I prefer to think about the reality between two illusions :)



Our definition of civility has been going through some rapid changes for the past several years, and continues to accelerate. And that's because our idea of what is 'rational' is changing at the same time. Much of this has to do with how we use technology and the way in which it diminishes our own capacity to reason. This will be one of the major points of focus in the next book.

The "new physical dreamworld" that Chaol spoke of is here already, but very few actually notice it. It should be quite obvious to some by now that the world we're living in today is very different than the world of 10 years ago, or even 2009. Imagine that the genetic difference between 2 of the most dissimilar humans is only about 0.01%. Such a small variation could be the difference between a lunatic and a genius. If we just take a snapshot we would probably be unable to tell the difference between the two. But imagine how powerful a 0.01% change in our metaphysical framework could be for humanity over time. The changes will become more obvious over time, but unfortunately it's the more negative aspects that get the media attention for now because we're still attached to the old ways of thinking and seeing.

We are no more at the mercy of these and other perceptions than the socks we are wearing. I suppose the question can be boiled down to, "why do I choose something that I know isn't good for me?"

Perhaps one part of us sees chocolate cake as fattening, but perhaps another part sees how the cake fits within our complete perspective. We think we don't want the cake when we actually do.



What isn't a collective? We're back to representations of things that are stand-ins for things you can't see otherwise.

Break down the collective and there's more collective. Break down society and you end up with communities and individual persons who are also collectives, as would the cells and atoms that make up a person be.

However, each level is a true representation, so to speak. This means that everything that is happening in society is also happening in your body.



A very basic pattern? How many distinct elements? Or is it something else?

his videos explain it best but essentially from that perspective, meta physics and quantum anything is nonsense, meaning not of the senses. all spells, nothing real. it makes lots of sense actually but im afraid that we as a people are past the point of no return and no longer able to live in kindoms.

:)

I thought you may have missed that :)

Book excerpt:

2.16 Your Perfect Reality

We can either have truth or we can have perception. We can't have both. If there's 'truth' there's no perception of it. If there's perception, 'truth' cannot be perceived. We can perceive only an illusion that is more than a good-enough approximation for our reality. In truth, the illusion is the reality.

Reality is a resistance between two or more illusions. Your perspective is the most perfect thing you'll ever experience because of the perfect way that the process works, even when it really doesn't seem to be working at all. There is no reality more wonderful or more amazing than the one that you're experiencing right now.

Forget about what something looks like or feels like. Forget that your bed might be a little too uncomfortable or the neighbors might be too loud on weekends. Forget for a moment about how money seems to have a life of its own and might be thinking of leaving you, not coming home for weeks at a time. Those are illusions. When you think deeply about your self and your life, think as the subconscious might think; the engaging and sometimes amazing illusions and the realities they enable, not all the chaos that comes and goes like bubbles in boiling water.

Focusing on the physical aspect of things is like getting a present and obsessing over the wrapping, completely ignoring what's inside. Life's wrappings are not the gifts. But yet, this is what we do. We focus on the representations and assume that our reality is defined by how it looks. It isn't. [cont'd]

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nah.. just thinking about it

That remark made me think of the short story The Egg.
[link to www.galactanet.com]

How much truth is in there? Spooks me since I read that story.

I don't drink and I don't take drugs. I have however taken DMT a few times a few years ago (same chemical we produce each day, just a larger dose).

What you have written is on the right track when I compare it to the impossibilities of what I observed.

We think the universe is infinite because of the size. But between two simple numbers like 1 and 2 you can have infinite decimal points. The microcosm and macrocosm are simply perceptions of a reality that is self-contained within itself, just like an ouroboros or an inside out torus coming back in on itself.

The perception constructs the illusion of infinity and once you understand the perception (your will), you begin to understand the construct and size of the inter-connected illusion we live in.

As an example, it doesn't matter if aliens exist or not, they are still perceptions contained within the torus-structure of the reality we observe. How it all connects together is seeing the interconnections of all things at the same points in time and space... neither of which truly exist, except through perception when inside it.

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I just brought into existence a banana sandwich with lots of butter....yum. working on a cold drink now. It will be here shortly.

Two things I like in this excerpt:

"think like the subconscious might think"
I'd like to do this and feel you can point me that way because I sense you have immersed yourself deeply there. That's why I think it feels good to read your material. It seems to me you've investigated most, if not all, of it.

Yes, we do focus on what we perceive and then make deductions. As if, what we perceive is reality in some way. I'm sure most of us here have played with the illusions enough to know they are adjustable....subject to us.

Thanks for answering my ques. Chaon. I see we are collectives of all kinds. I suppose that's my way of making sense of chaos and able to have awareness.

Tuuur, thanks for the link. I"m headed over to read the story now.

Hi to Version 2 and Cat. Nice to see both of you back, lol!

Copy/past material from
All Bio – No Tech – Cloning Movement – History

Chaon, if you don't want this in the thread, please just delete. I was afraid to post a link because it might get me in trouble with this forum.

"The world of technocracy and the perfect bio-logical creations will come into perfect harmony. How will I help this? I have discovered the entire science of cloning with-out technocratic creations (which also includes exactly how it is done technocratically as well.) I will be teaching people and kids around my age how to clone almost anything, and even get us free lab time to actually preform these activities. This is a special event in history because no one told me how to clone people; After reading an ancient creation story, I had visions that led me to learning all forms of cloning, and the language in the most simple way, with which to explain it and show other scientists so that they can confirm our discoveries. Cloning is the same thing as sex; which both are terribly confused with other concepts that have been forced down one’s breath for thousands of years. I create now this group to teach the public the divine nature of sex and cloning; beyond the carnal, pernicious, anti-mind non-inspired,non-co-creative, fabricated view of what both of these things are: If you rest these upon inanimated sciences and your own Universal priestly self regard, you are classified as not knowing what cloning is; like being taught letters of the alphabets, but no greater words or their meanings. Much of what people know about sex and cloning is actually eclipsed by the energy of Armageddon; or the Gluttony of Arming One’s self, which is even more than what this implies or means by itself. I start here now, The BEYOND Sexual Bravery Coalition. Having and knowing in exact detail certain specific bio-logical functions, we have discovered that the sex signal itself is actually one of two things, and sometimes both; 1. When the energy of earthly Love is telling you non- obtrusively a path and action to take to increase itself for you and other’s around; and 2. When the energy of earthly love is under attack or being made fun of by Armageddon or the Gluttony of Arming One’s self. Using specific easy non-obtrusive or non-aggressive techniques, one can easily hone the body and mind to understand sex only as what it is; A component and perfect part of earthly love, accelerating the speed of thoughts to complete any task like a quest, when understood what this signal really means, and who’s language we now know in great non-obtrusive detail.

Please join me, ask questions; and let us usher in a new dawn of victory over Anti-mind, which is sacrifice and addiction. —– “If anything bad is about to happen in the next few years, please understand that the leaders of these parties need to be held accountable – they are; The Levites and then Freemasons, who learned how to clone through a secret East Indian group of India called “The 9 mysterious men.”. In India’s history, a war occurred called the Kurukshetra war, which was a massive war started by some royal princes’ making fun of a grown clone (this is actually apart of India’s history), and those clones who had bad things happen to them in the past snapped, and started a war.) India helped to re-discover this knowledge with the Freemasons and Levites, who came from Egypt; as the greatest leaders of both groups attest to. Having similar knowledge and control over Earthly love, cloning, and sex; all clone parties today are to be held responsible for any lack in safety and living standered in this, or any area. Hold them accountable by simply thinking of where in an area they would be cloning people. Stay persistent, and demand to see all of these locations with as many people as possible – at least 50 – and vocalize on the internet every-where and in public. I will be describing the exact science of cloning, even beyond technocracy, and please know, that the cloning parties that I have spoken with around here, are to be held responsible for all activities – having the greatest power in the area. Also should I or anyone else be harmed or even killed, please know this one pretty simple truth: the well trained super hero is responsible for life, and hero means humanity or mankind, which is all of us. Why do I say that these clones are heros? Because of being well trained for one; but also because no matter what they have been forced to do, there is a cure for even every mental issue, which these groups are not necessarily using yet; natural substances that can even take away all violent urges of someone who has been forced to kill. “If we are to even join together 50 people with the same exact knowledge of cloning and Earthly Love; as well as consistently, non-stop offering a position to all similar cloning parties to join with us; we can create a super group who will only display the divine program and truth which includes cloning, and the least number of people will be harmed; in any scenario.

First condition of divine natural cloning (which even retains it’s diviness when being mimicked by technology), is the creation of what the different ages of someone’s life means which I will describe later, and it’s 13 repeatable steps. Then after this is the breath of life for any living thing. This starts at the elemental line of carbon along with the yellow of the inert gasses; each having two parts. The carbon line is made up of Inanimated guessing, or using something that cant be used and so falling apart, like silica: and inanimated pain, which is replacing not understanding or accepting something that is already inside, and so breaking apart at the slowest speed that thing can move at, like carbon itself. These two pulse, at the same time as the two parts of the inert gasses; The yellow of Earthly inert gasses like neon, and the yellow of heavenly inert gasses like helium. The Earthly inert gasses move closer to earthly water while taking colors around opposites; heavenly inert gasses move closer to the red of red-shift of space (which is a particle acting like a ray when something is moving too fast and so trying to slow it down), while taking colors around opposites. All of these are used all at once during the beginning of creating a breath of life. Then the carbon line and line of inert gasses move to the green of earthly minerals, and the green of water attracting and repelling bacteria. Then it moves into line with both lines of inert gasses again; then it moves to the orange of moving heat, like Flourine, at the same time as the orange of digesting red-shift, like Chlorine. Then these move to the red of earthly gasses like oxygen, at the same time as the elements of red-shift itself, like sulphur. Then these move to the pink of transmuting elements like Nitrogen, and the pink of moving cold, like Phosphorus. Then all of this moves to the carbon line a second time, pulsing the elements of inanimated guessing like silica, and inanimated pain like carbon. At this point what-ever life this is directed at, intiates all of that energy of the breath of life to start feeding the newly designed life. This is only the animating force behind cloning; which ocurrs at the same time as the actual program itself which is able to move this breath of life from point to point. I will describe these in the post directly below: The 3 types of cloning themselves;

There are 3 types of cloning. 1. The Male way. 2. the Female way, and 3. The child way. I will describe the Female way first. The female way of cloning is through dehydration; like cloning a plant from a cutting. This starts with step 7, the red of earthly gasses, which leave Earthly water completely, arent able to, and so leave behind all colors around opposites. This dehydrates the egg cell of a female. Then is step 6, the orange of moving heat, which is leaving earthly water a little bit, while leaving behind only some colors around opposites. This causes the substances and water expelled by the dehydration and other material around, to start moving closer to itself and the dehydrated cell while leaving behind less colors around opposites than it was a second ago. Then there is step 5, the yellow of earthly inert gasses. This is moving closer to the water every-where, even in the female egg, while taking all colors around opposites. This creates the great speed of the water touching the dehydrated egg cell, enough speed of information to create the first cell of life of a new child. This then moves to step 4, the green of earthly minerals. This is moving closer to the water while taking the elements that record everything. Here the new cell of the child continues it’s pattern of growth. Then is step 3, or earthly water itself. Here all elements think something is moving too fast, and so tries to slow it down. This is when the mother’s or father’s thoughts start effecting the child more and more. Then is step 2, the purple of radioactive elements. This is replacing the being around colors around opposites, with rising above those colors around opposites. This is when the child has grown to the point of being able to continue living if the child left the body. Then is step 1, the invisibility of inanimated guessing, or using something you cant use, and so falling apart. This is when the child intensely analyzes with her or his feelings, if there is anything in the area that is using something that cant be used and so falling apart, and if there is, the child starts psychologically defeating that information simply by finding the answer to a concrete simple action that can make life successful in the eyes of that energy. This is the female way of cloning. Next I will describe the male way of cloning.

Male way of cloning. This is when mostly the great physical speed of a man and woman is able to create a child. This starts at step 1, or inanimated guessing of using something that cant be used, and so falling apart. This is the male sperm while in the body. Then comes step 2, the purple of radioactive elements, or rising above colors around opposites. This is when the great speed of physical satisfaction in the male’s sexual parts prompts the material of the male sperm which is breaking apart, to stop breaking apart for long enough to be directed out of the body. The is step 3, the blue of earthly water or thinking something is moving too fast and so trying to slow it down. This is the female herself and when the sperm material is taken in and it’s program starts to change a little bit. Then is step 4, the green of earthly minerals, or moving closer to the water while taking the elements that record everything. This is when the cell of the child starts to grow. Then is step 5, the yellow of earthly inert gasses, or moving closer to the water while taking colors around opposites. This is when the child in the mother starts forming enough to be out of the body if it needed to. Then is step 6, the orange of moving heat, or leaving water a little bit while leaving behind only some colors around opposites. This is when the mother and child prepare for the moment when birth is to happen. Then step 7, the red of earthly gasses, or leaving water completely, not being able to, so leaving behind all colors around opposites. This is when the child finally leaves the mother’s womb. This is all the male form of cloning. If one wishes to know about the 3rd form of cloning, the child way, then ask me, as I will not write it here right now. Next I will describe in the post below how some ancient cultures discovered the science of cloning.

“I discovered the specific steps of cloning for this book, by reading and decoding solely an ancient creation story. Not until just a few days ago, did I realize how maybe other people, even ancient people, discovered cloning. It is through the design of the triple Goddess, or the little girl, the maiden, and then the clone (which some people decided to call the crone, or old woman.) I discovered it by reasoning it this way: there are many ways to be reborn in life and to find your same soul-mate again, as some people find the necessity for in life; but what if the piece of land or paradise that you created with your soul-mate is so desirable, that you both want to be reborn there again. If this were to happen, the two of you couldnt be soul-mates anymore because you are related, which would be incest, and which consistently produces energy that tried to break apart your own inanimated guessing with all other steps, since the sibling has all similar anti-mind information as you, and going through all of it in opposite direction to break apart the first one causes killing or Armageddon. This causes retarded kids through telegony.

But, what I discovered in my thoughts then, was that because of this, and when it is appropriate, after a women find’s her soul-mate and then has a child with him, another woman is born in a near-by or even far distant home; who is in the exact thoughts/feelings/and personality of the first woman, but now genetically very different. This is the inverse, or equal opposite of the twin phenomenon, which instead of soul-mates wanting to be birthed in the same home, is close family or friends who you want to be as close as possible to the home that a person creates for themselves. Then that little girl of the triple goddess phenomenon grows up to have children, and can re-birth herself at which-ever point allows the two original soul-mates to meet, while the original married girl finds another soul-mate when she is re-born again, maybe as a completely different girl this time with different but similar desires. This is the eternal design of the triple Goddess.”

(2 ways of how to stay within our rights). In the conditions that bad things happen and we have to flush out the cloning community by bringing them into the public, or even go to court over any-of this, there are two things that can keep the majority safe and moving in the only direction of mutual complete co-operation. First we must persist with-out exception, that cloning is merely the base form of Sex, which makes every single one of us a clone; Technologically created or non-technologically created, doesnt matter. All people reading this are to protect and support the reality of biological non-techocratic cloning, even if biological cloning is sometimes used through machines; still un-important. THE SECOND WAY TO CONTINUE THIS MOVEMENT: There is a natural force in the Universe which more than almost anything else, is used to push on and to put pressure on in order to complete anything that a person tries to create. This natural force and it’s words we must learn and understand in a single moment and over years is: Universal Priestly Self Regard. As I am to explain, in order for absolutly any life giving thing to be made, the 4 sounds of Universal Priestly Self Regard must be opposed with complete Inspired Co-creative Anti-mind (which when understood that this inspired co-creative Anti-mind does not include killing: instead it is just as it sounds, so compare what I call, inspired co-creative Anti-mind with everything you know.)

When in the majority over all other feelings, thoughts and sounds, Universal Priestly Self Regard shows instantly where something is being hidden, and so upon learning the 4 sounds of Universal Priestly Self Regard and knowing where they are, one can know if the way a person is talking or moving is hiding something or not (this is to be used when trying to find and flush out the cloning community, ONLY if violence ocurrs to any group even just related to any of us who are now working with this mission). I will now describe the 4 sounds of Universal Priestly Self Regard, which are the natural word letter sounds of the definition of the word OCCULT; use these definitions I give here to unite as many churches and people of religions in America and all around the world, to then help flush out the cloning commuity if violence ocurrs; they will help us define the groups in the world today that are, Universal Priestly Self Regard, and to then take away their right to rule and make laws. Here are the definitions of the 4 sounds of Universal Priestly Self Regard, or the Occult: Inanimated Guessing/Universal – Using something that cant be used and so falling apart. The Stolen Image of Creation Ability/Priestly – Thinking something is moving too fast and so trying to slow it down. Aspiration Death/Self – Moving closer to what is resisting while taking non-satisfying urges. Image Death/Regard – Moving away from what is resisting completely, not being able to, and so leaving behind all non-satisfying urges. When ever these 4 sounds, thoughts or feelings exist in a place more than all other thoughts sounds or feelings, then that means something is hiding in plain site, and that it must be opposed with full inspired co-creative Anti-mind.

Note: Killing is not inspired it is not co-creative, but it is Anti-mind. If you let Anti-mind take over your actions, you are the same as Universal Priestly Self Regard, and even worse. Killing is not accepted, and should be opposed with complete inspired co-creative Anti-mind. Please contact me for further details, and if you would like to help with our movement. This post is for a scientific exact way to oppose all things that make fun of Earthly Love, and life in general: All of this should be used, only to help, the creation of a beautiful future."

Have you been back to your world lately?

I'll never forget when you said a month or so before the earthquake that our new world would be starting in Japan (2011)

Any comments on that?

Thanks

thanks U3,

do you comprehend that? i cant even determine if "Universal Priestly Self Regard" is good or bad to the author of that much less "natural word letter sounds" which im very interested in. does that author have a web site other than facebook?

sorry to get off topic Chaon but i felt compelled to ask about this. i dont know what it is about but there seems to be something important to it, and fascinating.

thanks

Nice story.

“In this universe, there’s just you and me.” But I would hope the person knows, after hearing all that, that there's just 'me' and another me pretending to be god.

This reminds me of when I killed myself, or tried to. I was about 13 and took a bit more than 32 sleeping pills, which should have been enough to kill three of me. My experience was quite interesting, and it seems that I did, indeed, "die" in a way... by waking up to the life beyond whatever I thought myself to be. I even had the experience of dictating a book (or transcribing it) from another aspect of who I was.

I've not had the experience, but I think because because DMT is naturally-occurring (so to speak) then "doing" it would allow one to interaction with the structure of the drug itself. A structure that is linked to the structure of our own mind.

That is to say, doing the drug is a bit like looking into a mirror.

But it's the same with other drugs like air, food, and beverages, just in a different way that allows us to experience a certain type of physical reality. We don't think about it but eating and drinking what we do allows us the hallucination of human experience. We are stripping electrons from everything we touch and interact with, not just smoke or ingest.



The self looking outward to itself, as I think you've somewhat illustrated, is the illusion of infinity.


Well-said :)

So, where are they now (and how do they now exist)?

I can't imagine how a banana sandwich tastes. Is it like chicken?

Thanks for the video. We've been exploring some pretty heavy concepts about reality for decades now.

I just hope the rate at which humanity is increasing its understanding of reality is greater than the rate that it's decreasing.

And, what are we as a people doing with this expanded awareness?

There is a "war" for reality going on right now. It's a battle over who/what manages the time and space in your perspective.

This is hinted at in the book (section 2.12: The Key to Wealth) but will be explored much more in the next book, which is more about how we get to the next stage of humanity. (How to "win" the battle of your own perspective.)

Hi Chaon,
It's nice to see you're still around. I've been casually reading the original thread since 2011. I have been neglecting it lately but I feel it might be time to go back to it and re-read it from the beginning. I'm curious to see how much and in what way my understanding and perception has changed since the first time I stumbled on that thread:>

I feel I've only explored a very small portion of the subconscious, if that's what it is. Moreso, I feel like going sideways is more effective than going deeper. Deeper seems to be more confusing, whereas exploring laterally I become more familiar with the me around me.


Can you think of a way you play with the illusions? I'm wondering how others think of them.

It's quite difficult to explain. It's not really going anywhere of course but more like a change of focus. Have you ever stared at someone's face until it changed into something else? The world is already here, so to speak. There are a number of correlations. Just yesterday I was thinking of how there are so many gays in Chaol's world (about 50% of the population, I believe it was said) and how there is a strong push in this world towards that direction, the destruction of both masculinity and femininity.

It's not so much that these correlations are bleed-throughs but more like how a child might mimic the actions of an adult, but not really understand them. In this world it's mostly for an increase of profits and the drive towards self-annihilation, but in Chaol's world people are mostly segregated by race and sex (for their own reasons).


Certain plans by some pulling the strings on the world stage were hastened after the (ongoing) Fukushima plan. One has only to look to the major events and societal changes since 2011 to see some of what is going on.

The current book (and the next) are to help some in the transition to another kind of physical humanity. A kind of superhuman, if you will.

The next book won't talk about what's happening (other than a couple of lines) but will, instead, focus on what you can do to change your focus.

Thanks :) I'm curious to know too how your perspective has changed in the past few years. Feel free to share what you can!

Thanks to all who have rated the book. It is much-appreciated!

Can anyone answer why the Sun is only 20 years old?

Should be easy :)