Chaol Speaks:Reality, consciousness, time-space, mind, matter, and more

Thank you for co-creating this expansion with me.

Nice thread, OP. :5stars:

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This seems to be a quite-deep rabbit hole that I've been thinking about since you asked.

May I ask, is your health issue chronic? Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer.


I have been wondering the same thing. I've been thinking about the decline of the Roman Empire and noticed some major correlations. The big difference, I think, is our use of personal technology that is speeding up the decline dramatically.

There's only so much dopamine our brains can take before we become irrational (and suffer psychoses). Perhaps the Ancient Romans met the same fate.

I have some ideas of how "the wall" will proceed, but I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.


You and me both. I am still digesting it! I'm actually surprised I wrote it.

I'm not sure if I'll understand your question at first but I'll try my best :)

Thanks. What are your thoughts on the subject, if I may ask?

The hints seem to point (though surely you jest)
beyond the map and terrain
to something besides the treasure chest.

Guess what it is and the chest is yours
even though it be safe and sound with him,
Aztec gold behind the doors.

Hey Chaon, thanks for your reply :)

Yes, it is has been a chronic "dis-ease" that I have had for 2+ years. I usually describe it as chronic fatigue, which of course is really just a set of symptoms...mainly overwhelming fatigue and dizziness. This does ebb and flow, and at the moment is not too bad. But alas I can't currently lead a normal productive life...

Just wondering how your philosophy could be used to improve health and treat dis-ease in general. Was intrigued by your notion of transferring symptoms onto other objects/symbols in my reality. I would imagine that since the symptoms are a form of relationship that I have been engaged in, that I need to somehow change this relationship?

Any thoughts?

"Should" in relation to what intention?

Here's a bunch of text from the book, if I may :)

2.06 How to Get What You Want

Nobody cares what you want – except you. But even then, you don't really care that much, because those wants are always changing in small ways. Your wants and desires are like undefined thoughts – emotions – and are as nebulous as the sea. They morph as your perspective does. What you really care about is that which you can actually perceive – the drama surrounding your wants and desires.

Do you really want to buy a new house, or is what you really want all of the benefits it could bring? If it did not have those benefits, would you still want it? If you could get into a time machine and see yourself 10 years from now you probably wouldn't care about what kind of car or job your future self wanted, especially if those things were different from what your younger self wanted. We only desire something when we can perceive what surrounds it, while the thing itself – an illusion – is just an interface to those other things that we really want but can't define as easily.

That your wants and desires are ultimately meaningless is wonderful. It means that your conscious thoughts can impose meaning onto reality rather than having meaning imposed onto it. It also means you can bring experiences closer to your reality by beginning to perceive and experience what surrounds it rather than trying to perceive the thing itself.[...]


I don't really have anything to say about the story, but out of the untold thousands of people who "win" something, there is likely to be at least a handful who have what they think is coincidence involved, and at least a few of those who tell another, who tells another, etc.

In this way we would get the sense that reality is something that happens to us, rather than something that we are the source of.

Is it more meaningful to see the number "55" in 20 different places this week or more meaningful that your perspective is everywhere you look? It's easier to notice the 55, I would think, as one at least has a reference to go by.

Something that permeates everything doesn't have a reference, so would be almost impossible to notice.


"Only the conscious mind is concerned with reality because it isn't aren't aware of what reality actually is."

For me, when thinking about being surrounded by illusions (because nothing can be perceived directly) it takes on more of an 'entertainment' role because reality is what you make it.

There are a few repeating words and phrases that Chaol used that I thought deeply about, and "entertainment" is one of them. He preferred more of the classical definitions of many words, and of this it would be something more like, "provision for the maintenance of a certain frame of mind," which I have found to point to our brains need for continuous dopamine flow.

Dopamine is essential to understanding human behaviour, I think, as it seems to be that which

A greater human imperative than surviving, I think, is the need for the feeling of survival. What good is being something if one doesn't feel one is? This is where dopamine comes in.

Dopamine = entertainment. That which allows us to avoid our primal fear of not existing (of being the void) which I know from firsthand experience is an extremely frightening thing (per a vivid dream I had where I related to absolutely nothing else, or so it seeed).

Too much continuous dopamine flows and surges leads to cognitive disability, among other things. It is essential to understanding why we do the things we do, and will be covered in the next book.

There is no reason to understand any of it other than to feel like one exists. It's another layer of the cake.

I have no idea, but if I had to guess it would be that the anesthetic temporarily halts transmission of nerve impulses (as we know) which the brain responds to by going inward for stimuli.

I suppose it would be like how the brain responds to the loss of one sense by heightening an other sense. In this case, my guess is that when the nervous system is disrupted and no or few signals are received, it creates signals in its imagination, which the consciousness can then focus on instead of the physical environment that is no longer sensed as much.

The funny/sad answer would be someone falling off a cliff because they were playing Pokemon Go.

But, seriously, this is related to dopamine production in the brain. Basically, continuous surges of dopamine (such as when playing Pokemon Go for weeks or more) decrease our cognitive abilities and executive function.

Anything that one is addicted to (usually without knowing) which could include things like television, mobile devices, web browsing, sex, pornography, sweets, etc., but also things like sports, science, politics, news programs, music, "saving the Earth", etc., can lead to mental and emotional illness.

It could be said that Facebook/Twitter usage affects the brain so much users become irrational, weak, and stupid (because of how it affects the dopamine system).

As Chaol described a zombie, they are "Someone on the fringes of the socially acceptable"

The movie "Kingsman: The Secret Service" isn't too far off, I think.

But what happens when "zombies" comprise, perhaps, 98% of the population of the civilized world?

It's a pleasure :) thank you

nice nickname :)

Hopefully, you've read some of the above regarding dopamine production. It may very much be related to your condition, as chronic conditions can often be caused by an imbalance in dopamine.

Here's a reference: [link to www.verywell.com (secure)]

It may be an idea to get your dopamine levels checked to see if there is any known issue.

Regarding "transferring" it has to do with transferring the source of your identity and your feeling of existence. For some, illness and sickness allows them to feel like they exist. Maybe it's persistent pain that tells them "yes, I am alive" or special attention from hospitals or friends. (That depends on the illness, I suppose.)

But the best way to figure it out, I think, would be to think about your lifestyle a few years leading up to the symptoms and potentially-harmful things you continue to do today. I'm guessing this may be relatively easy to figure out, but personal history would be involved. (Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer)

If, for example, you have been getting your dopamine supply from cigarettes over the years and you stopped smoking a few years ago, then your brain would want to compensate for the loss somehow. (It's not necessary to compensate, but you may get food or sugar cravings, or start some other kind of addiction, be it media or work or something you become really glued to.)

The other 2% will be called irrational,zombies etc. , correct?

More like 98% zombification. The older the generation, the lower the zombie penetration is, I would guess.

We're at the very beginning of an epidemic of mental illness and irrational behaviour, sponsored in part by the top 10 internet and media companies.

I am pleased to announce that the new book, "The 7 Keys of Logia: How to Regain Control of Your Reality in a Time of Chaos and Insanity" has been completed.

Find out how to get it now (for free) at [link to www.qmetaphysics.com]

Thanks for your patience!

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the new book is awesome! it puts everything into perspective for me. THANK YOU

Thanks for the reply Chaon, with regards to low dopamine/cfs link. I am about to get my adrenals/thyroid tested, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is also low dopamine and serotonin. Hopefully I will get to the bottom of this soon!

Am keen to read your new book...will you also have this available for download on your site soon?

Thank you!

Is there another place where we can post a review to get the book? I can't use amazon right now.

Sure. And feel free to let us know if you think there may be a correlation, post-result.

The new book will be available on the site on October 1st

Thanks for your interest Chaon :)

Really looking forward to reading the new book! I really need to re-order my perspective this year, so need any help I can get. Will be re-reading your other books in the leadup to the release.

Have you ever wondered why scars persist on the skin even though the skin is by far the most regenerative organ that we have?

If the skin is constantly being regenerated then why doesn't new skin come in scar free? The damage of scarring carries with it information that is locked within the cell in a process that some call "cell memory." This memory is in the DNA of the cell- the genetic information that instructs how each subsequent cell should be constructed. The DNA of damaged tissue becomes radically altered. These cells will produce cells based upon the genetic information encoded within their cells to instruct cells to produce skin cells that are scarred. This is why scars are perpetually on the skin even though the skin cells replace themselves every 20-40 days. Scars are really not sites of incomplete healing or sites still in the process of healing. These areas of skin have healed. It's just that they have healed with scar tissue. In essence, the genetic formula for skin cells has been reprogrammed according to the scarred skin.

The scarring literally becomes locked within our DNA. It as if we were born with them.

So, the question here is, how do we get our cells to "forget" about the information of the damage and thus prevent them from passing this information on to the next generation of cells? Basically, we would need to reprogram and repair the DNA of the cells, deleting the memory of damage, allowing the "knowledge" of the normal cell structure to be restored.

Would you shed some light on how QuMe may provide some better understanding, or possibly even the key?

Greetings :)

I truly appreciate everyone on this forum (and I'll get to unanswered posts soon) and would like to thank you by making the new book available to you before it's published on Amazon.

please download the PDF from the link in my signature, below. Thanks again!

Thanks. Feel free to let me know any questions you might have.

(And if you'd like the first book on your Kindle, it will be free on Amazon from October 1-5)

That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that the scar is not from your past but an aspect of your present perspective.

Imagine that it was an emotional 'scar', instead. You could say that you got hurt on July 5, 2007, and that you are still hurt today. Or, you could say that the scar originates in the present and is different each time it is perceived.

But because perspective is 'retroactive' when applied to time, we can't really tell the difference between how we felt on July 6, 2007 and today.

Greetings Chaon! Thank you for the new book. :)

To me, you are saying (above) we aren't able to manage our whole perspective. Do you personally feel you are able to do so? Or, are you still learning?

Chaon, have you heard of Dr. Grabovoi, a Russian scientist? He found a device in the Collective he has named PRK-1U. It's what he calls a consciousness structuring device.

I've seen several images of it and have used the image I'll post a link to here. I've used it to help me with meditation.

There is a certain way to use it to time travel but I haven't used it that way, myself. Anyway, it reminded me of you finding Emerald City.

Maybe someone would like to find it and offer it cheaper than Dr. Grabovoi :)


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Hi :) You're very welcome. It is a pleasure.

In a way, it is being managed as intended. In another way, perspective could be out of balance. The world we see is the illustration of how the forces of perspective are managed.

In order to know one thing, we must define it in relation to an other. So, you could say, this is how we 'get to know' the other. Once we know both sides we'll be able to form a resistance between the two that can be interpreted as 'peace on Earth' or whatever. I think Chaol referred to it as the return of the dreamworld.


Right now I'm building the foundation for "the resistance" in my perspective. I've been absorbing Chaos, so to speak, and folding it into abstract organizations in different ways.

I'm still very much at the learning stage of it all, and probably will be for some time.

If "God level" is a 1,000,000, for example, I would say I am a 4, while Chaol was a 6 or 7. I will need to be able to 'fold' complexity at a faster rate if I am to be a 5 or a 6.

However, there are different ways to play the game, as I tried to illustrate in one of my books:

Alphen tilted his head and seemed to wonder about it himself. He then asked, “Did you ever hear the story about the wise man and the fool in the bowling alley?”

“No. I hadn't heard that one,” Levi responded.

Alphen responded, “That's because I just made it up after I asked you about it.” He continued, “See, the wise man and the fool are sitting in the bowling alley looking at these two guys play against each other. One of the guys they recognize is a worldwide bowling champion. They don't recognize the guy he's playing with, but he doesn't seem all that good anyway so they don't really focus on him. They're just amazed that this bowling champion is playing in their neighborhood. So the fool turns to the wise man and says, 'This guy is hitting strike after strike. He's won six games in a row. He's humiliating the other guy!' The wise man turns to him and says, 'On the contrary, his partner is teaching him how to play'. The fool is surprised by how the wise man could say such a stupid thing, so he asks him how it's possible that a guy who is losing game after game could be better than a world champion who is beating him to a pulp.”

“Well, how is it possible?” Levi asked.

“So the wise man turns to the fool and says, 'You were only focused on the score. You didn't realize that his friend was hitting only the pins that the champion missed before he bowled, each and every time. The champion had spent years learning how to win against other players. But his friend, the true master, was teaching him how to win against the game itself.' And that's how the leaves fall from the tree,” Alphen ended, turning back to his desk.

Chaol is teaching me how to re-write the rules of the game of reality.

Thanks for the information. I'll check it out.

Does the good doctor tell people how to make their own, or just offer it for sale?

OK, thank you.

Chaol told us we have to "work" for it, or we wouldn't appreciate the Dreamworld. This led me to believe there are "hacks" or at least, another way or even ways.

I have felt, for quite some time, that 'something' surprising will be happening for humanity as a whole but I suppose it could just be my projection of what I feel about myself. I feel right on the edge of 'something' and really question how much of it is my actual doing because I often can't pinpoint cause and effect. Although, I have had opposite effects of what I intended, lol!