The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!

Thank you for your kind words. Too kind.

Any wisdom I may have doesn't come from me. I'm just a sheep that has been given the gift of sight. Meaning my eyes were allowed to open. I was blind in one eye and couldn't see out of the other. At least now I can see out of one eye. It's still blurry though. I'll be the first to admit I've got a lot more work to do and time is shorter every day.

Thank you for your input to this thread. We are told in the bible that Jesus is the only way. I must take him at his word. My choice.

I can tell that you are far smarter than your hinting posts imply.

You leave bread crumbs. Let us see the loaf you're getting these crumbs from.

Come on, spill it.

That's a brain!

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Absolutely your choice! I personally choose to recognize the Father AND the Mother. Like spiral fingerprints & puzzle pieces, everyone has their own story and version of The Whole Truth. I won't deny you yours. We're all led back to the same ONE.

OP I have read a bunch of your other posts in here now and you beloved are not informed as to the nature of God. That is why you are having some trouble from others. Also others are as bad or worse than you in their comprehension.

YOU ARE IGNORANT AS ARE MOST ON THIS PLANET. The CREATION DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY.

It was known 2000 years ago that the revelations of Jesus would be thoroughly fucked up to put it mildly using modern and correct slang usage.

Your bible is not the word of God. It is a bunch of stories have some truth and some fiction.

Jesus promised new revelation and he also promised ME and that was left out of your bible. A lot of destruction occurs over 2000 years time.

Much of your God in the OT is the anunnaki Other of the Gods are other ET's. for example the lord God did not go to moses. Moses was real. But the Lord God of that story is the highly advanced people from the planet JEHOVAH which orbits Alcyone.. the central Star of Pleiades. Our Sun orbits Alcyone also. We are of pleiades and under some administration by those of the planet Jehovah.

These people from Jehovah help moses. There were in one or more CRAFT. The food the lord dropped on the way from Eygpt to the "holy land" was spelt. And these people dropped it.

They gave the 10 commandments.. only there were 20 of them.

They spread the sea for the crossing. They fried Sodom and Gomorrah to name a few things from the OT.

Thus this ends whoever uses it as giving God the name of Jehovah and YAHWEY etc

The commandments were given using lasers to carve them. there was no burning tree but a burning craft perhaps? Yes.

These are small examples.

Satan served Lucifer. I already said that previously and neither are on this world.

You people have to come out of this BULLSHIT. IT IS NOT IN SERVICE TO THE CREATION.

A great revelation was provided and that is the Urantia Book. It covers HOW the cosmos is ruled It is a cosmology book. It covers the bestowal of Jesus to this world. He is our Creator Son.. he is NOT 2nd person Trinity only begotten Son stuff. You ones do not know the Trinity at all.

Some of you think THE FATHER was the FATHER of JESUS only and thus some of you think that you have to pray thru Jesus and this is bullshit.

the FATHEr of JESUS for some of you in this thread as I know some of you do that. is FIRST SOURCE of the Trinity. HE IS the source of all personality in the wide spread huge creation in both MAN and Angels.

That is only one role.. but if you have a personality it came from the FATHER and most of you would agree you have personaities.

God does not fly on a broomstick. We have a dark person here who has the Father traveling around and visiting earth which is bullshit.

And I think for now this is enough. But you ones are being lead by your noses and this includes YOU OP.... by the dark thugs who operate in Christianity and also in ISlam.

You who support Israel as chosen by God are really really really really DUMB on that one for the Father is the origin of it all and works thru the Eternal Son and Infinite spirit

MIND is the builder of everything and everybody in the wide creation. MIND IS GOD in the simples nutshell. You are indwelled by a FRAGMENT of the FATHER which is a fragment of HIS MIND to guide you and God the Father is thus as close as your own MIND. YOUR PERSONAL GOD THE FATHER in that sense..

Your God fragment not only schools you and leads you upwards but is also a portal to the COSMIC MIND which has everything in it and thus knows all things.

You get there by quieting your mind the learning meditation

How many of you in church during worship service LOOK AT THE SKY!!!!! That is not where your god is.. he is within YOUR MIND.

I have been teaching here without success that your God does not wear a suit... or pants. He doesn't fly around on a broomstick either. That is my other term for now to try to get thru the MIND CONTROL you have experienced since childhood in most cases.

Can your ones not understand that everyone is mind controller from birth by their cultures alone. Jesus came for all flesh and that includes MUSLIM FLESH.

Jesus did not start your religion ROME DID. yes there were believers from day one but your church was founded by Rome and is controlled still by rome.. all of them.

Masters do not start religions. Dark thugs do. so they can control you as you begin to grasp something of God and they have been very successful I might add.

I AM CANDACE/KAN DAEK and I AM the one promised by Jesus long ago to teach. I AM the planetary Christ of this age and I AM FROM PARADISE. This is my 6th incarnation on this sad world.

There are two main groups of ascendent beings.. those who have not reached Paradise and those who HAVE. Those who have not reached Paradise are still searching Those of us who have come out to this worlds as God manifest That is the truth and every one of you here if you stick thru the ascension process will one day be finaliters on Paradise.

THAT IS YOUR GOAL. This crap in these threads is NOT YOUR GOAL.

As the spiritual pressures intensify during the ascension of GAIA. its not yours it her's.. its getting worse and worse what you ones argue about. THAT AT LEAST SHOULD BE OBVIOUS HERE. IT STINKS.

YOU NEED TO REALIZE yourselves as SONS OF GOD IN THE MAKING . called being Faith Sons. if you are indwelt by the Father.

Some of you will make your individual ascensions which is the fusing with your Father Fragments which causes your soul and your Divine spirit to become ONE BEING... you are then real sons and that is when your real journey upwards starts.

Now when THAT happens IF you are on the planet. you will be changed in an instant.. because you see... the process consumes your Body and you leave the planet by something called Adjuster Transit and you show up at the appropriate world in heaven you have obtained. That process has started in larger numbers of this world. That process makes one an ascended master. I assume some of you have heard that term as in the ascended master Germain for example.

I became an ascended master eons ago.... some 16 million years ago roughly but not off this world. I had my origin on another world in this local universe.

I HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU WILL GO and I suggest listening up since I AM the CHRIST of this ascension period walking the planet. Christ is a state of attainment.. not the last name of Jesus. Jesus was the name ONLY for the incarnation by the way of the Creator Son... as it is with all of us when we incarnate.

GROW UP PEOPLE.. you are not even babies yet who chase the falseness. READ the Urantia Book. READ FIRST perhaps the very last paper in it as a place to start. Its going to say something to you

OK finally enough. I couldn't seem to stop. I AM KAN DAEK of Paradise and the Christ of this period. That said there are many Christs here right now incarnate. I am chief teacher essentially.

I AM THAT I AM and at some point so will you ones be if you persue the life eternal. You are not going to party on the clouds with Jesus for jillions of years.

Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

OP,.. you are trouble and I now you mean well but its NOT IN A GOOD WAY because you do not comprehend God YET anyway.

What a MASSIVE load of CRAP!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I'll bite.

The Tree of Life is Jesus. It's in the first book and the last.

The book you quote from (Book of Adam? Seth?) doesn't ring true with me. Other books outside the Bible do ring true with me. That's all I can tell ya.

There is only one truth. I guess we'll see what the truth is for sure one day soon.

I can tell that you are sincere in your belief. I can also see that you are sincerely wrong.

Thanks for your input. It has helped me in ways you cannot begin to measure.

might be the wisest thing said on this thread

Starting from the garden of Eden up until now, the marriage covenant is still a mystery to many Christians. It's the reason why so many have made a complete shipwreck of it! Maybe if they knew what really happened in the garden of Eden and what's at stake. They would approach the marriage covenant with much more reverence.

I've been told that perfume companies started making really bad perfume en mass in the 70's and 80's.

They probably started making perfume that smelled like stale cat piss on purpose so the only real choice was the very expensive stuff which, of course, cost them the same or not much more to make. lol


Versace did over 500 million in business in 2013. They employ 500 people worldwide. Math is not my strong suit but it looks to me that, on average, each employee generated 1 million in business that year. I think the real number was around 540 million. So someone added greatly to their personal wealth that year and subsequent years.

I can still think like a satanist. Know thy enemy. LOL!

The Book of Enoch used to be part of the Bible I have been told. It contains the description of angels who were allowed to take on the attributes and physicality of men to be of help to mankind, who then had sex with humans.

The Book of Enoch seems to be the problem.

My head is swimming as I imagine others heads are, trying to sort all this out.

WAS it an apple or sex with Eve?

DOES there exist people who are from Cain and others from Seth.

WHO are the good guys, who are the bad guys?

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There is a good discussion on the Book of Enoch.

I am pinning this till we get this sorted out.

If you are interested in the "seed" of the serpent read genesis 4 in the king James. As you know it speaks of the lineage of Adam & Eve,

Cain, Able & Seth. First read it for context, paying particular attention to how it describes the prodgeny belonging to the fathers.

There is a plainly evident anomaly, in one of the descendants of Cain & his children.

You could use Strongs to further study but it's not really needed.

If you can see it & wish to discuss you are welcome,
I will check back, as it is a very interesting one on multiple levels.

Thanks for the pin.

As I recall Enoch walked with God and is one of the few who was taken up to paradise. Of all the books that should have been included they left this one out.

This is a quotation from the attached web-site...

"Mystery Babylon"

The references to the KJV are theirs...

""
Lets take a look at this verse:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain...

- Gen. 4:1 (KJV)

To many this is proof positive that Adam had sex with his wife; and wasthe father of Cain. An open-and-shut case... or is it? The word knew, if we examine the original Hebrew, here, does have the meaning of "to have sex with" (which makes it easy to assume that they copulated). However, this word could also mean something totally different!

The word knew actually comes from two Hebrew words: yada and eth.

The word yada not only means to "have carnal sex with," but also "to recognize," "discern," or "acknowledge."[2] The word eth is untranslatable in English, but it generally relates to "a sign," "a distinguishing mark," or an "omen."

From these other meanings, we can reconstruct the English translation of the verse, as it sets, into something such as the following:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Also, if we look at the Hebrew word for the translated word conceived, here, we see it could also mean "to already be with child." Put them all together... and we gather a whole new possible meaning for this verse:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve; that she was with child, and realized she was about to give birth to Cain...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Yes, studying the Hebrew, we see this verse could easily take on a whole new meaning! See how easily verses could be mistranslated when the people translating them might assume they should say something a certain way?

Could it really mean that Adam understood what had happened to Eve, here; and that Cain was about to be born?

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve.
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)
""

what a pile of satanic bullshit

No its not Lisa... I do not post crap. YOU however do. You left "new age" (I am not new age by the way)... and then you reverted full blown dark ignorant christian.....You put away your mind it seems..

I haven't figured out for sure if you are just dumb now or if you are part of the system against God.. meaning antichrist. You know though. if you are antichrist you are in great trouble.

Lisa is correct you post nothing but deceptive, satanic crap. nothing but lies, blasphemeies, mockeries, wickedness and evil.

Both of you support HELL which does and cannot exist . the creating trinity does not make such a place Neither of you listen to your indwelling father because if you were spirit lead you could not post the stuff both of you do. enough already.

Through Eve's seed we have Christ who injured the serpents plan. Because of the fall we all needed a Savior or we have to personally pay the price for sin, meaning we get a free ticket or we pay for sin ourselves in the next realm.

The Savior bleed from every pore so we just don't know how painful the purifying process really is. Take up the Saviors offer for repentance then be new. Be full of good works being lead by the Holy Ghost which also purifies us and our lives here!

I sure did leave the new age movement long ago candace. It's called leaving the darkness and stepping into the light. I suggest you try it.

Thanks for posting this. The word 'knew' is pretty much what started me to believe that what Jonathan was teaching here could very well be correct despite my not wanting it to be true.

Could the word 'knew' not mean 'knew' in the biblical sense but instead meant exactly what it really means?

My conclusion was....yep. Because when you add all the pieces together it forms a picture I never saw before. And that picture blew me away. It was so crazy, so absurd and so insane I had to take it seriously. Because much of the Bible is so crazy insane in a way that it makes so much sense. People who read the Bible will know what I mean by this. It's hard to put it into words. So forgive me if this statement offends anyone.

It shows that someone had a sense of humor too.

Who knew that knew really meant knew? To perceive or understand as fact or truth; apprehend clearly and with certainty.

This^^^

This too is garbage beloved. complete garbage except the part of being full of good works. It is NOT how it works. Which fall are you part of beloved? Are you saying your are one of the fallen Lucifer folks? for this is a prison ward for fallen ones of all types. His bleeding from every pore is what people due in extreme fear. It is not about purifying anything. Eve didn't get much seed onto this world by the way. Christ is not from Eve's seed.. I don't understand that comment.

The divine fragment of the Father is what leads you.. not the holy ghost which is a term that needs to be totally removed from use.. its not a ghost.

In actuality most of the lucifer rebellion folks that desire have repented already and the others have been annihilated.

Repentence does not mean I AM SORRY I WON'T FUCK UP AGAIN. It means to start over anew. It means the being reborn of the spirit You ones have been terribly denied the truth.

You are under the correcting time of Christ.. which is the catch up time and the time of overcoming this world and healing it.



the Holy Spirit. 3rd person trinity is the total of the evolving MIND of Nebadon. It is the MOther god so to speak and it does inform life. and has been on this world since life was seeded on it... 550 million years ago.

of course you don't understand any of it, you work for satan pushing craprantia book lies and filth.

The words you use are precisely the same I have used. I have read a couple of your posts and we think in the same vernacular. Namaste'