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User ID: 57273167 United States 07/15/2016 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea that it can be found in Heartguard... that's terrible. Quoting: Pandora Petal Is it in any other things we should know about? Revolution is another brand that contains a (newer) version of ivermectin. Last Edited by Seafarer on 07/15/2016 09:14 AM |
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User ID: 72582271 United States 07/15/2016 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reread her post. She is simply restating what has been known, but often overlooked in the fine print. I have a dog and recall the warning when I first administered the drug. Collies are genetically predisposed to being oddly intolerant to the stuff. It is highly toxic to them. [link to www.petcarerx.com (secure)] "...pet owners with Collies, Australian Shepherds, Shetland Sheepdogs, Old English Sheepdogs, and English Sheepdogs should know the facts about Ivermectin intolerance. This knowledge could end up saving your dog’s life." Last Edited by Loewin on 07/15/2016 09:20 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68848387 United States 07/15/2016 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Collies have a sensitivity to Ivermectin,yes but it is needed to to prevent heartworms.All heartworm preventative has ivermectin if you weren't self treating your dog and horse they Probbly would still be with you.Anyone can just walk in to feed store and buy the stuff.I think that needs to be changed.I have never in the 16 years working in the vet field seen a collie die while using heart guard it just doesn't happen.Now if that client is using the liquid and doing it themselves that's a diffrent story.Leave it to the pros don't self medicate your animals just to save a buck.You wouldn't do that for yourself so why do it to the critters that depend on you to be watching over there welfare because they can't? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68900612 United States 07/15/2016 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reread her post. Quoting: Loewin She is simply restating what has been known, but often overlooked in the fine print. I have a dog and recall the warning when I first administered the drug. Collies are genetically predisposed to being oddly intolerant to the stuff. It is highly toxic to them. [link to www.petcarerx.com (secure)] "...pet owners with Collies, Australian Shepherds, Shetland Sheepdogs, Old English Sheepdogs, and English Sheepdogs should know the facts about Ivermectin intolerance. This knowledge could end up saving your dog’s life." Sure that info is good to know, but what I am responding to and understanding what the OP said is that it sounds like her dog licked up Ivermectin Horse Paste, which has a massive amount of Ivermectin in each tube. I don't know of any other form of Ivermectin that can be licked up like that. It sounds like the dog died from the amount of Ivermectin, not the Ivermectin itself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71675640 Denmark 07/15/2016 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin does NOT kill your animals unless you give them a massive amount (an overdose) Do you understand this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Colic in horses after deworming happens in large worm infestations also so it's not neccesarily the fault of the product. I have used it on horses at least for 15+ years and never seen anything similar, but either way op, I am sorry you lost your horse and thanx for the warning. |
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(OP) User ID: 67237997 United States 07/15/2016 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin does NOT kill your animals unless you give them a massive amount (an overdose) Do you understand this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 No, you are wrong. There is a genetic test to determine which animals carry the gene that reacts poorly to Ivermectrine. I did NOT overdose my horse. Like a river, or maybe a dream... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68900612 United States 07/15/2016 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Collies have a sensitivity to Ivermectin,yes but it is needed to to prevent heartworms.All heartworm preventative has ivermectin if you weren't self treating your dog and horse they Probbly would still be with you.Anyone can just walk in to feed store and buy the stuff.I think that needs to be changed.I have never in the 16 years working in the vet field seen a collie die while using heart guard it just doesn't happen.Now if that client is using the liquid and doing it themselves that's a diffrent story.Leave it to the pros don't self medicate your animals just to save a buck.You wouldn't do that for yourself so why do it to the critters that depend on you to be watching over there welfare because they can't? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68848387 I strongly disagree. No one should be forced to pay a Veterinarian bill everytime they worm their animals, they just need to know the proper amount according to weight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68900612 United States 07/15/2016 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin does NOT kill your animals unless you give them a massive amount (an overdose) Do you understand this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Colic in horses after deworming happens in large worm infestations also so it's not neccesarily the fault of the product. I have used it on horses at least for 15+ years and never seen anything similar, but either way op, I am sorry you lost your horse and thanx for the warning. A large worm load usually causes problems such as intestinal obstruction, no matter what type of dewormer you are using. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71478540 Costa Rica 07/15/2016 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW!… Thanks OP for the warning. Here we use it occasionally on our goats, and dogs when the screw worm (torsolos) infestation gets too much to handle. I usually dose by weight, but often wondered also about the purple spray that is used here topically as well. Do you know anything about the purple spray? Is that what the collie did? Lick the spray off, or was it an injection? |
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User ID: 65158326 United States 07/15/2016 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin does NOT kill your animals unless you give them a massive amount (an overdose) Do you understand this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 No, you are wrong. There is a genetic test to determine which animals carry the gene that reacts poorly to Ivermectrine. I did NOT overdose my horse. She may have been carrying a heavy worm. |
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User ID: 65158326 United States 07/15/2016 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Collies have a sensitivity to Ivermectin,yes but it is needed to to prevent heartworms.All heartworm preventative has ivermectin if you weren't self treating your dog and horse they Probbly would still be with you.Anyone can just walk in to feed store and buy the stuff.I think that needs to be changed.I have never in the 16 years working in the vet field seen a collie die while using heart guard it just doesn't happen.Now if that client is using the liquid and doing it themselves that's a diffrent story.Leave it to the pros don't self medicate your animals just to save a buck.You wouldn't do that for yourself so why do it to the critters that depend on you to be watching over there welfare because they can't? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68848387 I strongly disagree. No one should be forced to pay a Veterinarian bill everytime they worm their animals, they just need to know the proper amount according to weight. |
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User ID: 58373054 United States 07/15/2016 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My male tuxedo cat is losing weight. He eats, but I'm pretty sure he's a bit wormy. What can I get him from Tractor Supply that will help him with a proper dose? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71248835 Ask about their goat de-wormer. Double check with your vet since many things ok for dogs are lethal for cats. I was in TS the other day and noticed a lot of dewormers specifically for cats Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 07/15/2016 12:28 PM "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
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User ID: 72582271 United States 07/15/2016 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My male tuxedo cat is losing weight. He eats, but I'm pretty sure he's a bit wormy. What can I get him from Tractor Supply that will help him with a proper dose? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71248835 Hold on. It can be a variety of things. Compile a list of symtoms first. Don't treat until you know for sure. My cat is 17 and was always fat. Past 2 years he's lost weight, even tho eats and drinks well. Point tho, as they get older, kidneys start winding down and they lose weight. I put him on a lower protein diet after seeing his blood work percentages were off. Look at several of your cat's factors. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72543099 Australia 07/15/2016 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin does NOT kill your animals unless you give them a massive amount (an overdose) Do you understand this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 No, you are wrong. There is a genetic test to determine which animals carry the gene that reacts poorly to Ivermectrine. I did NOT overdose my horse. She may have been carrying a heavy worm. Is that opposed to a light worm? |
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User ID: 72252378 United States 07/15/2016 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My male tuxedo cat is losing weight. He eats, but I'm pretty sure he's a bit wormy. What can I get him from Tractor Supply that will help him with a proper dose? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71248835 [link to animalpetdoctor.homestead.com] Hope this info proves helpful. I just had to deworm all our critters this week Last Edited by Sammie on 07/15/2016 02:48 PM "Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow". ~Aesop "Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that. We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski "Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." -Goenka |