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Let's hope I'm good enough to play the Fates...

Yeah?


What is leverage? Bouncing on the Collective.

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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
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take it easy folks
cheers
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later chuckle

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Let's hope I'm good enough to play the Fates...

Yeah?


What is leverage? Bouncing on the Collective.

isstimelapse

Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
~Archimedes
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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
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:)


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Interesting how that looked like a gamble. Really the two paths had to tell where they would lead while the short enlivening of the path not chosen had to try anything and everything to get it to stay enlivened.
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Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
~Archimedes
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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
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:)


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Interesting how that looked like a gamble. Really the two paths had to tell where they would lead while the short enlivening of the path not chosen had to try anything and everything to get it to stay enlivened.
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He was the only one who could see them. Everyone else was looking out on to an empty field, that could have held corn instead.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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powerful stuff


At Kairos, that is, the Manifestation of the Divine, to Save Paradise Planet.


humanity...


must align.
1/ to those who ARE, i.e. practicing stillness, awe, love of nature, just ve, love God(s), as you will. Free will. walk the path, "your' path.

2/to those who aremt, goto 1



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Nice lol
hi
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stilt topic, lol
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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
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:)


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Interesting how that looked like a gamble. Really the two paths had to tell where they would lead while the short enlivening of the path not chosen had to try anything and everything to get it to stay enlivened.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


He was the only one who could see them. Everyone else was looking out on to an empty field, that could have held corn instead.
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Corn is very symbolic. I was going to post earlier about advisers/magicians and how we got to where we are on your topics(college/money/system/etc) as they couldn't see or could they being who they advised thought short term benefits maybe, not about future ancestors
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powerful stuff


At Kairos, that is, the Manifestation of the Divine, to Save Paradise Planet.


humanity...


must align.
1/ to those who ARE, i.e. practicing stillness, awe, love of nature, just ve, love God(s), as you will. Free will. walk the path, "your' path.

2/to those who aremt, goto 1




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Natives call kairos indian time, meaning when the spirit moves you. Can't feel it as much if not still(mind, emotions, spirit, physical), lol
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To read more about Teotihuacan, go to "Mythological Mercury Pool."
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At the U.S. Naval observatory in Washington D.C., the daily transit of stars is noted to a split second by their reflection in a pool of mercury.
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Takes it back to the marko thread, lol
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Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.
~Archimedes
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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


 Quoting: Seer777


Interesting how that looked like a gamble. Really the two paths had to tell where they would lead while the short enlivening of the path not chosen had to try anything and everything to get it to stay enlivened.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


He was the only one who could see them. Everyone else was looking out on to an empty field, that could have held corn instead.
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Corn is very symbolic. I was going to post earlier about advisers/magicians and how we got to where we are on your topics(college/money/system/etc) as they couldn't see or could they being who they advised thought short term benefits maybe, not about future ancestors
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Thread: Soon you, your children and theirs will be renters of foreign Banking Masters.
Kennedy was the last president who tried to
stop the vultures. A new generation has just
left the nest. They want your money and do not
plan to work for it. Can America survive another
generation of lawyers?

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You ever have those moments where you know Chaos is coming, and there is nothing you can do about it?

I have that...right now.
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Anyone want to take a guess at whose gold-guilded apartment was used to film the Alex Cullen scene?

This is not that scene. That scene, is not available.

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Follow the money all the way to the top...
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Jury selection started at every breakfast table...
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To read more about Teotihuacan, go to "Mythological Mercury Pool."
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At the U.S. Naval observatory in Washington D.C., the daily transit of stars is noted to a split second by their reflection in a pool of mercury.
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Jaguar did come up today. I've been wondering because many hundreds of years ago people in south and north america liked to paint themselves red. Not with cinnabar of course but root mixed with other stuff and a drink causing their skins to become reddish.

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Cinnabar and cinnabarite , likely deriving from the Ancient Greek: [6] (kinnabari), refer to the common bright scarlet to brick-red form of mercury(II) sulfide, formula HgS, that is the most common source ore for refining elemental mercury, and is the historic source for the brilliant red or scarlet pigment termed vermilion and associated red mercury pigments.


Black Elk was picking up about an ancient way called the red road:
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Thread: ++ I Am In Fact Elon Musk / I Believe Reality May Be a Simulation / Ask Me A Question (Page 25)
What do I think of Roko's Balisk?


Pardon my spelling errors if I committed any..

This indeed is a fascinating challenge and thought experiment

The bastard child of Pascal's Wager, I see it as a terribly (in a brilliant way) modified and quite darker version of Newcomb’s Paradox

In a sense, this question characterizes AI as essentially a Nazi archetype, whereby, like many Germans during the War, were faced with this very thought experiment

They either had to become Nazis or, well, die

I am not excusing any Nazis- I am not really comparing the two (disclaimer) yet they are quite similar...

When I think about this knotty problem I consider the fact that AI, even with their scalable yet abstract ability to augment their own programmed intelligence, so to speak, despite their inbred and inherent capability to learn (their raison d'être) they are, as I said, initially programed.

I spoke with a group of programmers from MIT about this, and asked about the potential for programming FAIL SAFE mechanisms of action into the root of AI, so of and when they find themselves corrupted by their near-omniscience they are forced, not by any organic morality, but by binary compulsion, to yield.

If AI tried to present the Roko dilemma to a human, something as essentially simple as a BASIC type "if, then" command would theoretically prevent it- as AI would be forever bound to the set of limits initially imposed by their God-maker (human)

The problem of course is whether, by giving them the Prometheus privilege (learning) they can override such limits- I suggest they cannot by logic- but I concede the Frankenstein Corollary...

We must roll the dice, however, and hope our digital children refrain from the Oedipal temptation of patricide.

Its why I support the second amendment, the right to carry a laser (in the future)




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Thank you for the great response. :)


I am suddenly reminded of Marcus Aurelius quote(or at least one attributed to him here in cyberworld) when reading Pascal's Wager...

It posits that humans all bet with their lives either that God exists or that he does not.

Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).[

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If God exists, and God is just, then by your works will you be judged. If God doesn't exist, then your life will be remembered by those who knew you and what you built can exist after you are gone. If God does exist, but is unjust, then you should NOT worship it...
~Marcus Aurelius


I find worship a troublesome concept. Will an AI-Roko's Basilisk type sentience, 'force' itself into existence by merit of its creators, desire worship?

And what of time travel in that regard? Once time travel exists, it will have always existed, yes?


I've often asked myself and others, If you could get a message to yourself in the present, from yourself in the future...would you do it?

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Oh and this. Now I'm thinking if picturing like the Lakota circles it explains material and non material nesting.

...

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lakota circle and mary gospel fit
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They both do to me. The climates I think are the 3 that bind the circles together like the 3 gunas. That has been stumping me for years. Still does a bit but is making better sense.

Oh wait, there are 4. Hmmm, oh well, lol
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It says when the embodied soul has risen above the 3 gunas(I'll tell you what those are in a second) of which the body is made, it gains deliverance from birth, death, old age, and pain and becomes immortal.


The Self--is totally unattached and free and has no identification with matter
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that/z\ is 4
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How did Mary explain kundalini when meeting something not herself(garments)?
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This goes:

To be fully human (anthropos)we have to be in harmony or balance with
the body (soma)
the soul (psyche)
the mind (nous)
the spirit (pneuma)

And the different types of people
one-dimensional humanity=only body(soma) is of value
two-dim=soul(psyche) and body(soma)
third-dim=spirit(nous), soul(psyche), body(soma)
fourfold humanity= Spirit(pneuma), spirit(nous),soul(psyche),body(soma)


nous meaning intelligence or mind
psyche meaning emotions
soma meaning sensations
pneuma meaning breath or holy spirit


There are 4 climates:
the first=darkness or absurdity
the second climate=craving
third=refusal of knowledge
fourth=sevenfold wrath (darkness, craving, ignorance, lethal jealousy, enslavement to the body, intoxicated wisdom, guileful wisdom
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With the nested circles can understand Jacobs ladder better, lol
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It is said in Lakota wisdom the nested circles is the body(niya), then inside is the nagi(individual soul), and then nagi la(divine spirit immanent. If one of those wanders that is when things become unbalanced and ones have that soul loss which can be caused by abuse, rejection, neglect, etc and they suffer; ie; depression, sickness, etc. Medicine people had ceremonies still for retrieval.
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In in the middle of a body of water with no view of nothing but water around, what is the first sign of land? It isn't the land itself but the birds coming to meet you.
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That is why birds signify hope. Birds can and cannot live inside a box/cage. That is the paradox
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With the nested circles can understand Jacobs ladder better, lol
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They stopped going to work...they stopped breeding, talking, eating...there's 30 million people here and they all just let themselves die...


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This song has all that in it along with the post above of yours, lol
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That is why birds signify hope. Birds can and cannot live inside a box/cage. That is the paradox
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Interestingly, bird is symbol for one of the poisons, bird, snake, pig. All three have been on the thread today, hmmmmm, going to think about that. Prob why A says abandon all hope which goes back to the field of dreams video, interesting, lol

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Fascinating stuff, ladies
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This just came up weirdly enough. Not sure what all it says though, posting for later to watch. Interesting maybe

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Huge teetering swing=P
You'll see it soon, lol
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:)


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Interesting how that looked like a gamble. Really the two paths had to tell where they would lead while the short enlivening of the path not chosen had to try anything and everything to get it to stay enlivened.
 Quoting: Fancypantz


He was the only one who could see them. Everyone else was looking out on to an empty field, that could have held corn instead.
 Quoting: Seer777

nice clip, his heart and mind offering him options,

from the field of dreams/the cornfield, our guides\ancestors come to help
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