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Jack Ma: It's Either Globalism or War

 
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that butt smoking limp wristed mutant couldn't wage war on a small condom but hey. Who cares what the little troll thinks
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Big talk from someone who got rich making shit from the plastic we tear off bags of beef jerky.
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A friend of mine owns a company called Double H Plastics. It's not a household name, but he makes products you've seen A LOT of over the years, and everywhere too. He makes those tiny creamer cups for your coffee, and every Major yogurt company on the planet uses his cups and lids as the choice vessel for their product. They literally sell for fractions of cent each, but when you're blowing out tens of billions of these things monthly worldwide, you've got something. Dave's one of my "billionaire buddies". Helluva nice guy too at that.
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Globalism created the "Super Class" of billionaires who vertically integrate the entire supply chain with their insider trade deals.

This super class of billionaires undermine all economies which are built on small business.

The effect of globalism is to destroy the power of labor unions which created the middle class through creation of higher wages.

Trade Union Busting is the ultimate goal of globalism to ensure that people have no power and only corporate interests control power, which is global corporatism.

No matter how you feel about trade unions, it is undeniable that they were responsible for the creation of the middle class in the USA and else where.

Strong trade Unions are very important to individuals and economies, globalism undermines these.

Create a global trade union against the Nafta, Gatt, TPP, and other trade agreements to combat their total control of economies
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And guess who he's linked to... he's a donor to The Clinton Foundation:

Bill Clinton, China linked via his foundation

[link to www.latimes.com]

Big surprise.

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Of course they dont hide it
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and there it is, an out and out threat from the globalist scumbags, do what we say and let s continue our crimes or we'll kill you with war
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War is fine with me.
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Jack Ma: Wars start when trade stops
[link to money.cnn.com]

[...]

"We should keep on going along the path of globalization," Ma said Friday in Hangzhou, China. "Globalization is good... when trade stops, war comes."

The executive chairman of Alibaba (BABA, Tech30) said he hopes the anti-globalization fervor that currently grips much of the world will ease after U.S. elections in November. China, in particular, has been a target of heated rhetoric.

"Every time there's an election, people start to criticize China. They criticize this, they criticize that," Ma told CNN's Andrew Stevens. "[But] how can you stop global trade? How can you build a wall to stop the trade?"

[...]

For his part, the 52-year-old Ma believes that globalization hasn't gone far enough. [...]

[...]

"Every government says they love small businesses but what have they done for them?" Ma asked. "We should pull down all the barriers."

 Quoting: Ag47


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EFFING FRE!

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Sea Trade has stopped Hanjin (A South Korean Shipping line) files Bankruptcy, assets frozen, ships immobile.
Earlier this year, The Baltic Dry Index was at an all time low! Either Jack Ma is wrong, or WAR is NEXT!

Hanjin bankruptcy causes global shipping chaos, retail fears
[link to www.yahoo.com (secure)]
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And guess who he's linked to... he's a donor to The Clinton Foundation:

Bill Clinton, China linked via his foundation

[link to www.latimes.com]

Big surprise.

waynenot
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My God, these people are so fucking corrupt...

Just want to move to a remote island...
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Zipperhead parasite.
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So, our choice is a fast, bloody conflict that kills a couple of billion or the slow extermination of billions via a globalized yolk of oppression that reduces the standard of living for everyone but a very, very, very small few.

What if there is third option?
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Ma another whiner we have to put up this week. Colin Kaepernick the second stringer makes 19 million dollars a year. If you made 30,000 dollars a year it would take you 633 years to make what he does in a year. And he's pissing and moaning.
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Zipperhead parasite.
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hesright
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fuck that miserable little twat.
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The effect is right but the cause is wrong.

It is as a result of failed states and failed power structures that are losing control and become monopolistic squeezing the commons that cause a breakdown and disintegration inward that is reflected outwards as war. War is the final outcome of failed supper states controlled by bad actors struggling to maintain control at all cost.

Cycle is

broad Growth of a society > consolidation of means of production and creation of monopolies > Monopolies creating unfair advantage through influence and laws and finaly control of governments > companies and people of foreign countries using their influence to maintain their market share and "protect their citizenry" pass laws taxing or limiting influence of foreign monopolies > tit for tat > loss money and market share > espionage corporate and foreign influence in foreign governance > more backlash and then War
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Sea Trade has stopped Hanjin (A South Korean Shipping line) files Bankruptcy, assets frozen, ships immobile.
Earlier this year, The Baltic Dry Index was at an all time low! Either Jack Ma is wrong, or WAR is NEXT!

Hanjin bankruptcy causes global shipping chaos, retail fears
[link to www.yahoo.com (secure)]
ouncsam
 Quoting: EFFING FRE!


I saw that yesterday and it could be scary, since the US makes practically nothing anymore...As other posters said, then it's WAR!....I'd rather have war here, than a Venezualan meltdown here!
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working real good now. No signs of war. whatever
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yep

the status quo is not an option

off with their heads
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China has more barriers to import trade than probably any other country in the world.

What he really means is NO barriers to Chinese exports to other countries, but we will tariff or ban anything you want to import into China.
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Translated into

"If you don't continue these one sided trade deals with China that siphon wealth from America there will be war"
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and most likely we will see high tariffs placed in if Trump is President most likely it would cause a financial panic, look at Britain for example we're under negative interest rates and our pound has fallen sharply during the August period since Brexit, so it's inevitable. it will continue until Britain is formally out of the EU.

David Cameron mentioned "'Brexit' could trigger World War Three,/WW3"

and unfortunately we are heading that root.
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I am on a pension and free trade keeps prices down. All u fucking commies wanting 15.00 an hour in closed economy can go to hell. If u would work for an honest buck an hour, you would have more jobs than u know what to do with.
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Now that is one uninformed opinion!
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And guess who he's linked to... he's a donor to The Clinton Foundation:

Bill Clinton, China linked via his foundation

[link to www.latimes.com]

Big surprise.

waynenot
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The slant eye and Hillary are buds.

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I am on a pension and free trade keeps prices down. All u fucking commies wanting 15.00 an hour in closed economy can go to hell. If u would work for an honest buck an hour, you would have more jobs than u know what to do with.
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No it doesn't. The corporation will raise prices to whatever level they can get away with, irrespective of how cheap they can make the product.

I remember when they closed all the textile mills in the eastern U.S. and moved the sneaker factories overseas. They saved big money on lower cost labor, but they still charged top dollar for those Nike tennis shoes. The money they saved was NOT passed on to the consumer.
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Big talk from someone who got rich making shit from the plastic we tear off bags of beef jerky.
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A friend of mine owns a company called Double H Plastics. It's not a household name, but he makes products you've seen A LOT of over the years, and everywhere too. He makes those tiny creamer cups for your coffee, and every Major yogurt company on the planet uses his cups and lids as the choice vessel for their product. They literally sell for fractions of cent each, but when you're blowing out tens of billions of these things monthly worldwide, you've got something. Dave's one of my "billionaire buddies". Helluva nice guy too at that.


I worked at 9 and Manufacturing in East Providence Rhode Island I worked at Rhode Island Plastics I did injection molding I did Extrusion I did acrylics I made plates cups bars tubes rods sheets you name it all of it the last Factory job I had was card company called Paramount they shut down Diamond was sold to Chinet. Chinet moved to Mexico before that I also work and screw machines they went to Asia also if you want jobs vote for Trump if you don't want any jobs globalism will send you to work at supermarkets and shopping malls.
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I know guys that fed their families and had 4 Kids and bought a house working in factory jobs those days are long over. factory work does suck in some ways but it's also kind of cool sometimes especially when I used to work in a factory we could smoke all the time sometimes we used to drink and smoke weed though it wasn't all bad you know what will not pay check came at the end of the week the equivalent to what it would be in today's dollars it's probably about a thousand dollars a week that's what America used to be like.
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Not for long. Pretty soon you won't be able to work at a mall because the demonrats are now bringing in foreign workers through the visa process. They'll get those jobs.
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I know guys that fed their families and had 4 Kids and bought a house working in factory jobs those days are long over. factory work does suck in some ways but it's also kind of cool sometimes especially when I used to work in a factory we could smoke all the time sometimes we used to drink and smoke weed though it wasn't all bad you know what will not pay check came at the end of the week the equivalent to what it would be in today's dollars it's probably about a thousand dollars a week that's what America used to be like.
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In high school in Michigan, my friends would graduate at 18, get a union job at the GM factory. At age 19 they would own a house, boat and drive a brand new Camaro or Firebird. They'd then get married and raise kids on one income, no problem.
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I am on a pension and free trade keeps prices down. All u fucking commies wanting 15.00 an hour in closed economy can go to hell. If u would work for an honest buck an hour, you would have more jobs than u know what to do with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65170533


This is called the US inflation calculator. This will tell you what the present value of a dollar is worth.

[link to www.usinflationcalculator.com]


So if you made $2.45 an hour in 1970 in 2016 with inflation you should be getting $15.20 an hour.
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Jack Ma: Wars start when trade stops
[link to money.cnn.com]

[...]

"We should keep on going along the path of globalization," Ma said Friday in Hangzhou, China. "Globalization is good... when trade stops, war comes."

The executive chairman of Alibaba (BABA, Tech30) said he hopes the anti-globalization fervor that currently grips much of the world will ease after U.S. elections in November. China, in particular, has been a target of heated rhetoric.

"Every time there's an election, people start to criticize China. They criticize this, they criticize that," Ma told CNN's Andrew Stevens. "[But] how can you stop global trade? How can you build a wall to stop the trade?"

[...]

For his part, the 52-year-old Ma believes that globalization hasn't gone far enough. [...]

[...]

"Every government says they love small businesses but what have they done for them?" Ma asked. "We should pull down all the barriers."

 Quoting: Ag47


Oh FFS!!! When the people of your country work for a dollar an hour what else is he going to say?

Keep it going birches! it's great for us!!!
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I prefer war over forced coercion.

At least theres a fighting chance through war. I recognize most wars as being asinine, but fighting rather than being run over is better.

Furthermore, noone wants to fight a true patriotic America. Right now I'm not convinced we're "the best" but if corruption os exposed and people held accountable, you'd better watch out.
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Jack Ma: Wars start when trade stops
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[...]

"We should keep on going along the path of globalization," Ma said Friday in Hangzhou, China. "Globalization is good... when trade stops, war comes."

The executive chairman of Alibaba (BABA, Tech30) said he hopes the anti-globalization fervor that currently grips much of the world will ease after U.S. elections in November. China, in particular, has been a target of heated rhetoric.

"Every time there's an election, people start to criticize China. They criticize this, they criticize that," Ma told CNN's Andrew Stevens. "[But] how can you stop global trade? How can you build a wall to stop the trade?"

[...]

For his part, the 52-year-old Ma believes that globalization hasn't gone far enough. [...]

[...]

"Every government says they love small businesses but what have they done for them?" Ma asked. "We should pull down all the barriers."

 Quoting: Ag47


Oh FFS!!! When the people of your country work for a dollar an hour what else is he going to say?

Keep it going birches! it's great for us!!!
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yeah bitches not birches. ha! Unbelievable that people actually value what this greedy pond scum sucker has to say.





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