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After my recent thread on the Laki Iceland event in 1783, and the appreciation many people gave me for posting it, because they never knew about it. I thought I'd post about some other farely recent events.

Thread: The LAKI ERUPTION of 1783 - killed 6 MILLION people and changed EUROPE forever.

When the Asian Boxing Day Earthquake and Tsunami occurred it blew people away! How can this happen? It's a once in a 1000 year event, I heard from many a friend and family member..

When I tried to explain, well actually it's not, there have been loads of similar events in the last few hundred years. They wouldn't believe a word I said. This led me to realise, that much of our recent disaster history, is kind of swept away under the carpet. Schools don't teach it, even heard from 1 guy here on GLP that studied volcanology at university for a bit and was unaware of the Laki event that changed the shape of Europe and was responsible for the deaths of millions.

Modern age amnesia, is rife. We like to look back deep into history and forget our quiet recent past!

I know many people around here know about many events that have happened in our recent past, but it's good to share this stuff for the people that don't!

Would love for people to add to this thread any event that they think people would like to know about, as I love to hear!


European disasters of the last 400 years are farely easy to find if you search. No doubt there are hundreds of massive natural disasters around the rest of the world that occurred and we will never know about, due to low populations in certain areas!

Let's start with the great Lisbon earthquake and tsunami of 1755 that killed up to 100,000 and had waves hit Great Britain and even reached Brazil.
Just 23 years before the Laki event, then the Messini, Italy, earthquake and tsunami that killed up to 200,000 in 1908, yep how recent is that!!!


The 1755 Lisbon earthquake, also known as the Great Lisbon earthquake, occurred in the Kingdom of Portugal on Saturday, 1 November, the holy day of All Saints' Day, at around 09:40 local time. In combination with subsequent fires and a tsunami (maremoto in Portuguese), the earthquake almost totally destroyed Lisbon and adjoining areas. Seismologists today estimate the Lisbon earthquake had a magnitude in the range 8.5–9.0 on the moment magnitude scale, with its epicentre in the Atlantic Ocean about 200 km (120 mi) west-southwest of Cape St. Vincent. Estimates place the death toll in Lisbon alone between 10,000 and 100,000 people, making it one of the deadliest earthquakes in history.

The earthquake struck on the morning of 1 November, the holy day of All Saints' Day. Contemporary reports state that the earthquake lasted between three and a half and six minutes, causing fissures 5 metres (15 feet) wide to open in the city centre. Survivors rushed to the open space of the docks for safety and watched as the water receded, revealing a sea floor littered with lost cargo and shipwrecks. Approximately 40 minutes after the earthquake, a tsunami engulfed the harbour and downtown area, rushing up the Tagus river,"so fast that several people riding on horseback ... were forced to gallop as fast as possible to the upper grounds for fear of being carried away." It was followed by two more waves. In the areas unaffected by the tsunami, fire quickly broke out, and flames raged for five days.

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The 1908 Messina earthquake (also known as the 1908 Messina and Reggio earthquake) occurred on 28 December in Sicily and Calabria, southern Italy with a moment magnitude of 7.1 and a maximum Mercalli intensity of XI (Extreme). The cities of Messina and Reggio Calabria were almost completely destroyed and between 75,000 and 200,000 lives.

On 28 December 1908, from about 05:20 to 05:21, an earthquake of 7.1 on the moment magnitude scale occurred, centered on the city of Messina, in Sicily. Reggio on the Italian mainland also suffered heavy damage. The ground shook for some 30 to 40 seconds, and the destruction was felt within a 300-kilometer (186-mile) radius. Moments after the earthquake, a 12-meter (39-foot) tsunami struck nearby coasts, causing even more devastation; 91% of structures in Messina were destroyed, and some 70,000 residents were killed.

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Next up.

The Calabrian earthquakes!!
What a year this was... The same year as the Laki, Iceland eruption. 1783... Just a few months prior to the eruption!


The 1783 Calabrian earthquakes were a sequence of five strong earthquakes that hit the region of Calabria in southern Italy (then part of the Kingdom of Naples), the first two of which produced significant tsunamis. The epicenters form a clear alignment extending nearly 100 km from the Straits of Messina to about 18 km SSW of Catanzaro. The epicenter of the first earthquake occurred in the plain of Palmi. The earthquakes occurred over a period of nearly two months, all with estimated magnitudes of 5.9 or greater. Estimates of the total number of deaths lie in the range 32,000 to 50,000.

On Feb 5th 1783.

This earthquake, with an estimated magnitude of 7.0, affected a large area including most of the southern Italian peninsula and shook the whole island of Sicily. Many villages were damaged and as many as 180 almost completely destroyed, with more than 25,000 casualties. A tsunami affected the coastline on both sides of the Straits of Messina, destroying the harbour walls at Messina.

Near the epicenter the ground shaking was so intense that people were knocked off their feet and heavy stones were found to be dislodged and upturned. Large landslides caused major destruction at Terranova and Molochio but even well-constructed buildings not thus affected were almost completely destroyed, such as in Oppido Mamertina and Casalnuovo.

The next day:
This magnitude 6.2 event occurred during the night following the first event and struck the area just to the southwest. Most of the damage and casualties appear to have been caused by a tsunami that was set off by a major collapse of Monte Pací into the sea near Scilla shortly after the earthquake. Many of Scilla's residents, frightened by the tremors of the previous day had moved onto the open beach for the night, where they were overwhelmed by the waves. The tsunami caused severe flooding in the town, reaching as far as 200 m inland, and there were more than 1500 deaths.

This was followed by 3 further events other the next few weeks!

What a shit year 1783 was!

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That's just 4 events here that match or surpass the disaster of the Asian Boxing Day tsunami.. All in the last 300 years or so, and there are many many more... I'm sure if these events had occurred in the last decade, death tolls would have far exceeded what they were!

It happens far more frequently than most people want to believe!
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Thank you, thank you, thank you OP.
Loved the Laki thread, had no idea about it!
Now you've given me heaps of doom reading.

Awesome! 5 stars and a massive bump
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Thank you, thank you, thank you OP.
Loved the Laki thread, had no idea about it!
Now you've given me heaps of doom reading.

Awesome! 5 stars and a massive bump
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hf

Your welcome, enjoy...
Feel free to post anything you may find. Australia and New Zealand has had some pretty spectacular events in recent times as well.

Indonesia has had many we know about, Krakatoa, Toba etc.
No doubt many more.

Would love to hear about any mass events in the Americas.
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Here's another of very recent times... 1923.

The Great Kanto earthquake struck the Plain on the Japanese main island of Honshu at 11:58:44 a.m. on Saturday, September 1, 1923. Varied accounts indicate the duration of the earthquake was between four and ten minutes.

The earthquake had a magnitude of 7.9 on the moment magnitude scale with its focus deep beneath Izushima Island in Sagami Bay. The cause was a rupture of part of the convergent boundary where the Philippine Sea Plate is subducting beneath the Okhotsk Plate along the line of the Sagami Trough.

Estimated casualties totaled about 142,800 deaths, including about 40,000 who went missing and were presumed dead. The damage from this natural disaster was the greatest sustained by prewar Japan.

A tsunami with waves up to 10 m (33 ft) high struck the coast of Sagami Bay, Peninsula, Izu Islands, and the east coast of Izu Peninsula within minutes. The tsunami caused many deaths.

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bump to read later cheers
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
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Your more than welcome!
Feel free to add any large scale doom events that have occurred on your side of the pond!
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Even more recent was the July 28, 1976 magnitude 7.8 earthquake wnich hit city of Tangshan in northeastern China. It completely obliterated the city of Tangshan and killed over 240,000 people. It was the deadliest earthquake of the twentieth century.
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Even more recent was the July 28, 1976 magnitude 7.8 earthquake wnich hit city of Tangshan in northeastern China. It completely obliterated the city of Tangshan and killed over 240,000 people. It was the deadliest earthquake of the twentieth century.
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Yep, that was one of the next one's on my list to post.
Thanks!
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bump to read later cheers
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Enjoy!
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Even more recent was the July 28, 1976 magnitude 7.8 earthquake wnich hit city of Tangshan in northeastern China. It completely obliterated the city of Tangshan and killed over 240,000 people. It was the deadliest earthquake of the twentieth century.
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Yep, that was one of the next one's on my list to post.
Thanks!
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Thanks, Griffo!

I'll enjoy reading about all of these tonight.

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Thanks, Griffo!

I'll enjoy reading about all of these tonight.

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Your welcome DMW, feel free to add any others for all to read mate!
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England and Wales (1014)

A widespread flood was reported in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle to have occurred in western Britain, from the coast of Cumbria to Kent, on 28 September 1014. William of Malmesbury stated that "A tidal wave... grew to an astonishing size such as the memory of man cannot parallel, so as to submerge villages many miles inland and overwhelm and drown their inhabitants." The event was also mentioned in Welsh bardic chronicles. On the 28th September 1014 ◦Accounts suggest that a flood affected Kent, Sussex, Hampshire, Cumbria, and Mount’s Bay in Cornwall, where the Bay was “inundated by a ‘mickle seaflood’ when many towns and people were drowned”
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England and Wales (1014)

A widespread flood was reported in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle to have occurred in western Britain, from the coast of Cumbria to Kent, on 28 September 1014. William of Malmesbury stated that "A tidal wave... grew to an astonishing size such as the memory of man cannot parallel, so as to submerge villages many miles inland and overwhelm and drown their inhabitants." The event was also mentioned in Welsh bardic chronicles. On the 28th September 1014 ◦Accounts suggest that a flood affected Kent, Sussex, Hampshire, Cumbria, and Mount’s Bay in Cornwall, where the Bay was “inundated by a ‘mickle seaflood’ when many towns and people were drowned”
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Cool, thanks for that! Will check this out!
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That's just 4 events here that match or surpass the disaster of the Asian Boxing Day tsunami.. All in the last 300 years or so, and there are many many more... I'm sure if these events had occurred in the last decade, death tolls would have far exceeded what they were!

It happens far more frequently than most people want to believe!
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I saw your Laki thread, I'm glad to see another one. I spent a few evenings looking into the Laki event. I even watched some lectures about volcanism in Iceland. lol

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Another lecture here

Nature as Historical Protagonist

What role did natural environmental processes, both physical and biological, play in shaping the course of economic development over the last millennium and longer? Historical accounts often overlook the independent influence that natural agencies could exercise upon the supply of and demand for resources, via their effects upon the reproduction, health, and life expectancy of humans and the domesticated plants and animals required for subsistence.

Bruce M. S. Campbell explores the significant environmental component to the course of pre-industrial economic development, investigating the comparisons between the chronologies of prices, wages, grain harvests and the corresponding chronologies of growing conditions and climactic variations, taking into consideration dendrochronology, the Greenland ice cores and the episode of the Black Death.

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more reading

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An even larger Icleandic one happened around the years AD 935-940.


Fascinating stuff. Of course everyone knows about Vesuvius and Pompeii.

But maybe not the Bronze Age eruption of Thera.


I was planning on looking into the 1815 Eruption of Mount Tambora


also
1883 Krakatoa


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Cool topic OP. Thanks :)
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1918 flu pandemic

killed an estimated 50 -100 million. making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history

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that's some serious dooooooooom!
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1918 flu pandemic

killed an estimated 50 -100 million. making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history

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that's some serious dooooooooom!
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Too bad GLP didn't exist generations ago.

The famous GLP Effect would have made doom less dramatic or non-existent and allowed the preservation of countless number of lives.




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Great thread OP! 5 stars and a pin request. :)

As for natural disasters, the worst would probably be Hillary Clinton, lol.

Seriously, the 1931 Floods in China killed and estimated 3-4 million people. :(

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Another one would be the Smallpox epidemic.

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Thanks OP! We humans have short memory indeed.
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the Arabic word for human is "insaan".which literally translates into "one who forgets".
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when the world is in turmoil ,maybe during the next war , possibly during huge world changing events The world is going to go through some changes now, it's the beginning process, but we are going to witness things you'd only see in movies , think natural disasters daily , like in Italy with the earthquakes, war . Maybe not war and chaos world wide , but tactical war. I mean, nobody can war like [liveleak]before with the threat of nukes. maybe this is why more of our rights and freedoms are being " altered" to adapt to the new world now. For instance , they are using the immigration issue to scrap the human rights act of 1988 or 1998 I can't remember which, but this is being scraped within the next few weeks, same as the prisons in the uk, there's going to be a complete change to how we process criminals .... Etc, education is being rehauled and the new youth are being brainwashed. anyway that's divulging into another issue , back to the topic , when I say earth changes , This will be very common, it's going to be wide spread through the world causing tsunami's, there will be asteroid and meteors, solor flares and planetary events will alter weather like you havnt seen before , so think about when it snows in the uk one day, then in the afternoon it's hot? this is going to wipe a common issue world wide wiping out ALOT of crop , it's due to a cycled polar shift , I can tell more if you wish but it's another topic all together.Tthe price of food is going to rise of corse, and this also is going to kill off a lot of wildlife , plantation , animals, this effecting the food situation greatly. I feel this is mentioned in the bible , about becoming spiritual before the rapture. I believe the rapture is when the world comes to experience this cycled polar shift , this has happened 3 or 4 times in the past , wiping out civilisation, but we are the most advanced civilisation , and have the tech that I believe none of our ancestors had. Don't let that fool you into believing all past civilisations were less advanced , because they were all different in knowledge, for instance , there were Giants it's in documented books hidden , you think they cured a headache with a Nerofen? You think they went to Starbucks for a fuckachino? No, they were advanced in building , and spiritually. They didn't get cancer because they didn't drink chemically manufactured coke cola , they drank water that wasn't filtered and chemically treated like ours is today. The show runners know this I feel , hence why there is a drive for vegan lifestyles and gluten free now, that's why there's a load on red meat giving you cancer , it's because meat is going to be hard to come by the next 5 years , possibly 10 if you're referring to biblical references and predictions from famous scholars like Isaac Newton and Naustradamus, again I'm divulging onto another topic , that's why I feel they want to ban smoking now world wide, it puts a lot of people out of work also. Try to see the bigger picture , See the what else is going to happen, car emissions for example ,this is to halt the automotive industry so electric motors and self driven cars will be in effect , wow , coo right? It's all about control , there will be no control in the future , the new future world will be electric cars , futuristic world. Sounds crazy right, look this is what a war brings about. It brings about change , look at world war 1 , then world war 2, if you read in depth it depopulated the world, brought about new tech and jobs , cities boomed after the war , especially Germany who became the automotive powerhouse of Europe shortly after, but talking about depopulation, they can do now with manufactured viruses and food , drink that you all Willingly buy. Take note of Zika, this is major wait and see. But , the same thing happens before any major conflict. A collapse of the economy world wide , a mass immigration ... Sound familiar? Holocaust : this is happening now , except we have invaded their amazingly beautiful countries , rich with oil and gold coincidentally , liberated them of their Horrid leaders , and reduced their countries to battlegrounds, making millions upon millions of people homeless and on a mission to where? Do you really think anyone cares about these immigrants? They are making them hate the west , whilst media and news promotes a hate campaign across the west against Muslim cloture and society , yet they are merging the two , together? .... This will only end in civil war and army occupying the streets , we will see this within 5 years , I'm sure. I'm sounding scary when I say conflict, people just imagine doom and bombs and apocalyptic endings , that isn't the case , it's all strategic and planned , and now with added technology, just imagine what they could achieve during world war. So, back to topic, when all the animals that we eat start to die off in mass , we will all be fucked. we are in the 10 year period now I feel, where whatever animals cannot adapt to the new climate , they will kill themselfs off. Think dodo, think black rhino to name 2, it's evolution, possibly , And I don't think we are that far off. 5 years or more , maybe 1 year or this year, who fucking knows but that's why you have to take life day by day and make the most of it. But referring back to alien life , I believe the wake up period of the public has begun and something big will happen involving alien life this or next year , Who knows though , exciting times. The tech is going to be steamrolling through now but this is coming at a great cost and there's nothing we can really do about it
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1746 Lima Callao earthquake and tsunami.

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