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FORGOTTEN recent history NATURAL DISASTERS DOOM!

 
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Location: Wallachia
Year: 1812-1814
Natural disaster: Bubonic plague
Death toll: 60-90,000
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The death toll is not high by modern standards, but posted it because I bet many thought bubonic plague last occurred in the 1300s.
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the bubonic plague of 1600s killed almost half of Europe.
in last century Bengal famine caused death of over 2 million people.
karakatoa eruption in Indonesia in 1800,s was greatest volcanic eruption in human history.killed hundreds of thousands.
what about world war 1 and 2?they killed millions.
the list is endless.
and my gut feeling says that soon we may start having same mega dooms again.as since world war 2 we have had a bit of lucky run
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The Tunguska event in Siberia didn't kill a lot of people because of the sparse population. Over a populated area it would have been much worse.

There are anomalies to the great Chicago Fire of 1871 (death toll up to 300) the fire of Peshtigo, Wisconsin(death toll 1,200 -2,500 in 12 separate villages), and Port Huron, Michigan fires,all of which occurred on the same day, that suggest some sort of natural event. These include reports of fireballs falling from the sky and people being burned to death in open fields. Downtown Urbana, Illinois burned down, the following day, followed by Windsor, Ontario 3 days later. (source: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Both of these could be meteor doom. Can meteors do that? the Book of Joshua, tells the story of the Battle of Ayalon, when the enemies of the Israelites were destroyed by fiery hail from heaven at the same that the Earth wobbled so severely that the Sun and Moon appeared to stand still for several hours. This story is a key chapter in Free Masonry.

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The Peshtigo Fire was a forest fire that took place on October 8, 1871 in and around Peshtigo, Wisconsin. It was a firestorm that caused the most deaths by fire in United States history, and was the deadliest wildfire in recorded history, with estimated deaths of around 1,500 people, possibly as many as 2,500. Occurring on the same day as the more famous Great Chicago Fire, the Peshtigo Fire has been largely forgotten. On the same day as the Peshtigo and Chicago fires, the cities of Holland and Manistee, Michigan, across Lake Michigan, also burned and the same fate befell Port Huron at the southern end of Lake Huron as well.

One speculation, first suggested in 1883, is that the occurrence of the Peshtigo and Chicago fires on the same day was not just a coincidence, but that all the major fires that occurred in Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin on that day were caused by the impact of fragments from Comet Biela.


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Thank God we have lots of aging nuclear power plants scattered around all over the place now.
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On 30 January 1607 around noon, the coasts of Bristol Channel suffered from unexpectedly high floodings that broke the coastal defences in several places. Low-lying places in Devon, Somerset, Gloucestershire, and South Wales were flooded. The devastation was particularly severe on the Welsh side, extending from Laugharne in Carmarthenshire to above Chepstow in Monmouthshire. Cardiff was the most badly affected town, with the foundations of St Mary's Church destroyed.[1]

Floods resulted in the drowning of an estimated 2,000 or more people, with houses and villages swept away, an estimated 200 square miles (51,800 ha) of farmland inundated and livestock destroyed,[2] wrecking the local economy along the coasts of the Bristol Channel and Severn Estuary.

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The 1692 Jamaica earthquake struck Port Royal, Jamaica on June 7. A stopped pocket watch found in the harbour in 1969 indicated that it occurred around 11:43 a.m Port Royal was then the unofficial capital of Jamaica, and one of the busiest and wealthiest ports in the West Indies. It was known both as the "storehouse and treasury of the West Indies" and "one of the wickedest places on earth", being a common home port for the many privateers and pirates operating within the Caribbean Sea. The earthquake caused most of the city to sink below sea level and about 2,000 people died as a result of the earthquake and the following tsunami. About 3,000 people died in the days following the earthquakes due to injuries and disease.

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The 1700 Cascadia earthquake occurred along the Cascadia subduction zone on January 26 with an estimated moment magnitude of 8.7–9.2. The megathrust earthquake involved the Juan de Fuca Plate that underlies the Pacific Ocean, from mid-Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Canada, south along the Pacific Northwest coast as far as northern California. The length of the fault rupture was about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) with an average slip of 20 meters (66 ft).

The earthquake caused a tsunami that struck the coast of Japan, and may also be linked to the Bonneville Slide and the Tseax Cone eruption in British Columbia.

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The Carrington event (1859) was no big deal because the only thing that used electricity at the time was the telegraph.

Today it would mean the end of the world as we know it!

Millions or billions dead from starvation alone.
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The Carrington event (1859) was no big deal because the only thing that used electricity at the time was the telegraph.

Today it would mean the end of the world as we know it!

Millions or billions dead from starvation alone.
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Sooooo true that! No doubt there have been many other Carrington sized events, that have gone unnoticed before electricity!

Thanks for posting!
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5 stars dude.

If the New Madrid quakes of 1811-1812 ever repeat along the Mississippi river, it will be unprecedented American disaster. This time it will involve nuclear power plants, chemical factories, and city buildings.

Also of interest is the 1983 very near failure of the Glen Canyon Dam, which is upriver from the Hoover dam and Las Vegas and the overflow land terrain to Cali's agriculture where so much of our produce is grown. ( read " The Emerald Mile" for a spellbinding account).
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5 stars dude.

If the New Madrid quakes of 1811-1812 ever repeat along the Mississippi river, it will be unprecedented American disaster. This time it will involve nuclear power plants, chemical factories, and city buildings.

Also of interest is the 1983 very near failure of the Glen Canyon Dam, which is upriver from the Hoover dam and Las Vegas and the overflow land terrain to Cali's agriculture where so much of our produce is grown. ( read " The Emerald Mile" for a spellbinding account).
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Awesome mate, will check this out!
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5 stars dude.

If the New Madrid quakes of 1811-1812 ever repeat along the Mississippi river, it will be unprecedented American disaster. This time it will involve nuclear power plants, chemical factories, and city buildings.

Also of interest is the 1983 very near failure of the Glen Canyon Dam, which is upriver from the Hoover dam and Las Vegas and the overflow land terrain to Cali's agriculture where so much of our produce is grown. ( read " The Emerald Mile" for a spellbinding account).
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hf
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shtfbump

I saw your Laki thread, I'm glad to see another one. I spent a few evenings looking into the Laki event. I even watched some lectures about volcanism in Iceland. lol

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Another lecture here

Nature as Historical Protagonist

What role did natural environmental processes, both physical and biological, play in shaping the course of economic development over the last millennium and longer? Historical accounts often overlook the independent influence that natural agencies could exercise upon the supply of and demand for resources, via their effects upon the reproduction, health, and life expectancy of humans and the domesticated plants and animals required for subsistence.

Bruce M. S. Campbell explores the significant environmental component to the course of pre-industrial economic development, investigating the comparisons between the chronologies of prices, wages, grain harvests and the corresponding chronologies of growing conditions and climactic variations, taking into consideration dendrochronology, the Greenland ice cores and the episode of the Black Death.

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more reading

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An even larger Icleandic one happened around the years AD 935-940.


Fascinating stuff. Of course everyone knows about Vesuvius and Pompeii.

But maybe not the Bronze Age eruption of Thera.


I was planning on looking into the 1815 Eruption of Mount Tambora


also
1883 Krakatoa


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Cool topic OP. Thanks :)
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Sorry for late reply, been offline for a bit..
Your welcome glad you enjoyed it..
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Great thread OP! 5 stars and a pin request. :)

As for natural disasters, the worst would probably be Hillary Clinton, lol.

Seriously, the 1931 Floods in China killed and estimated 3-4 million people. :(

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Another one would be the Smallpox epidemic.

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Ha ha at least the Clinton Catastrophe never happened!
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Just started this thread & wanted to say thank you before I get into the 2nd post!
This is fascinating and why I lurk here! This is an education & I am grateful OP!!
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Just started this thread & wanted to say thank you before I get into the 2nd post!
This is fascinating and why I lurk here! This is an education & I am grateful OP!!
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Cool, I did a shameless self bump on this and my Laki thread, as I know this is the sort of thing a lot of people visit here for, unfortunately not enough of this natural disaster stuff is posted, and there are always people who don't know about some of these not so distant past events. It's become far to political on here of late, and not even interesting political stuff, just stupid, he said, she said, shite...
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Just started this thread & wanted to say thank you before I get into the 2nd post!
This is fascinating and why I lurk here! This is an education & I am grateful OP!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7297214


Cool, I did a shameless self bump on this and my Laki thread, as I know this is the sort of thing a lot of people visit here for, unfortunately not enough of this natural disaster stuff is posted, and there are always people who don't know about some of these not so distant past events. It's become far to political on here of late, and not even interesting political stuff, just stupid, he said, she said, shite...
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Exactly! This place is not what it used to be. We always had the loons, but the tone wasn't so damn nasty overall. I come in search of these kinds of things. So again, thank you!
I just finished the whole thing & learned a lot.
What is with this collective amnesia? Maybe it explains my fear of earthquakes, from the first time I ever heard of them as a kid?
I have felt EQs in S Cal, Portland, Okinawa & Phx. All types. None too large & I pretty much gasped, when I read some of those lasted almost 10 minutes! I'd have a heart attack! I wonder how much loss of life is from being scared to death?
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Great thread OP! 5 stars and a pin request. :)

As for natural disasters, the worst would probably be Hillary Clinton, lol.

Seriously, the 1931 Floods in China killed and estimated 3-4 million people. :(

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Another one would be the Smallpox epidemic.

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 Quoting: olelady


Ha ha at least the Clinton Catastrophe never happened!
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Hahahaha. Well it is overdue!
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Great thread OP! 5 stars and a pin request. :)

As for natural disasters, the worst would probably be Hillary Clinton, lol.

Seriously, the 1931 Floods in China killed and estimated 3-4 million people. :(

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Another one would be the Smallpox epidemic.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: olelady


Ha ha at least the Clinton Catastrophe never happened!
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Hahahaha. Well it is overdue!
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Just started this thread & wanted to say thank you before I get into the 2nd post!
This is fascinating and why I lurk here! This is an education & I am grateful OP!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7297214


Cool, I did a shameless self bump on this and my Laki thread, as I know this is the sort of thing a lot of people visit here for, unfortunately not enough of this natural disaster stuff is posted, and there are always people who don't know about some of these not so distant past events. It's become far to political on here of late, and not even interesting political stuff, just stupid, he said, she said, shite...
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Exactly! This place is not what it used to be. We always had the loons, but the tone wasn't so damn nasty overall. I come in search of these kinds of things. So again, thank you!
I just finished the whole thing & learned a lot.
What is with this collective amnesia? Maybe it explains my fear of earthquakes, from the first time I ever heard of them as a kid?
I have felt EQs in S Cal, Portland, Okinawa & Phx. All types. None too large & I pretty much gasped, when I read some of those lasted almost 10 minutes! I'd have a heart attack! I wonder how much loss of life is from being scared to death?
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Glad you enjoyed... Suppose it's not taught in schools to stop the fear factor...
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Another potential catastrophe to keep watch of.

Set to blow? European supervolcano at 'CRITICAL STAGE' as eruption threatens 360,000 lives
SUPERVOLCANO Campi Flegrei is at a critical stage and scientists have warned that European authorities need to be ready – as experts fear the lives of more than 360,000 people across Europe could be at risk.

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Recent lack of large events is disturbing...
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Recent lack of large events is disturbing...
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I was thinking about this today.
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Recent lack of large events is disturbing...
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I was thinking about this today.
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Calm before the storm...





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