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Michael Shermer is a mind control handler

 
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For the uninitiated, Michael Shermer is a notorious pseudo-skeptic, who engages in a relentless battle with conspiracy theories for a really good reason: he's a handler.

His Skeptic Society actually has several handlers, but he's definitely in charge of mind control operations there.

It ties in with Sam Harris' mind control program, the notorious “New Atheist” neocon neuroscientist who engages in research with classified technology. Both of them use a Special Access Program, which is a way the government has of allowing civilians to engage with this kind of technology.

Because these folks are hard determinists, they believe there's no such thing as ethics, and that there's no such thing as moral responsibility. In short, it means they'll believe they can handle you any way they want to. “Your delusion of ethics will only hinder you,” Harris told me via a forced vocalization.

If they call a gang stalking on you, they're likely to use the Bloods gang. That was my experience, in any case.

They have a lot of folks in the Pasadena area.

Like myself, other students who get a little too interested in the philosophical ideas these folks promote might get an implant – and have their free will hijacked for the agenda.

Apparently, I'm not the first student to “wash out” of their program. When a student fails to meet the expectations of the handlers, they're referred to a mind control torture program in order to drive them to irrecoverable insanity.

You should have left me alone when I privately asked you to leave me alone, Mr. Shermer. Now I'll be forced to expose you publicly.
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Several handlers have asked me to keep these threads updated.

I requested privately, in writing, for the parties involved in this mind control program to stop handling me, especially Harris and Shermer. In response, I was treated to the most horrific voice to skull harassment and forced vocalizations. (The death threats are constant, sometimes.)

For a lot of people, it's a life lesson.

The new handlers are, all in all, pretty great. Old handlers, please go away already.

See also:
Thread: Sam Harris uses forced human experimentation
Thread: New Atheists in MK ULTRA
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To be fair to all concerned:

Harris seems confused, and Shermer seems homicidally enraged by my requests.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences!

hf
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Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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You're welcome. I'll continue adding information as I'm able and events transpire.

The harassment from Shermer is ongoing. It's been an outrageous response to a very polite request to be left alone.

Who's the other, uh, "Producer" you're using on the new film Michael? (The handlers are often the film producer.)
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This is a very interesting video I'd seen on YouTube before. It's worth a watch.

One of my handlers claimed Ray Kurzweil was personally involved somehow.
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Yes, Mr. Shermer, I receive your constant threats. They aren't appreciated.

You keep going on about how "nobody reviewed 'the rules' with you..." to which I must respond: what rules?

Nobody asked permission, and more importantly, nobody incentivized me -- as the new handlers do. You do something for me, I'll do something for you.

With the New Atheism, it was more like: produce some blog praising my deplorable books, and "we'll see" about letting you live... after you perform in all these science experiments for me.

Seriously. The handlers that were forced upon me were that bad.

You have nobody but yourselves to blame for what I can only describe as this epic intelligence failure.
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Why you expect me to abide your rules now is just beyond all comprehension, Mr. Shermer.

It was about 18 months ago I started hearing voices to the effect of, "Hello, my name is Mr. Computer, and I'm a big computer that helps people with science." Before then, I'd never heard of that program.

Why you expect me to seek a psychiatric diagnosis for EBL at this point is beyond offensive. You seriously think I'm going to help you cover up your indiscretions now?

The voices give me accurate information. Accurate information, by definition, isn't a delusion. Therefore, I don't suffer from any kind of delusional disorder.

See what I did there?
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The handler that's identified themselves to me as DARPA has indicated they'll be updating flow control soon, whatever that means.
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( ( Shermer and Harris ) )

oy vey
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Hah! "Oy vey" is right.

Several of my handlers have insisted that the FFRF (Freedom From Religion Foundation) is involved intimately. There's always a foundation at the bottom of a mind control conspiracy, and apparently there's a handler there.

How hard was it, right after I got the implant, to ask: "How would you like to write a grant for us? How about an essay?" Instead of the forced-to-be-a-test-subject routine. You might be facing an entirely different outcome.

Now, I'm ready to abandon that atheism nonsense completely for some kind of self-made kooky spiritual-but-not-religious practice. As is my First Amendment right. Thank you and goodbye forever, FFRF.

When it comes to Shermer, who would have thought that folks who've invested so much of their life to fighting conspiracy theories and "nonsense" would be involved in a conspiracy themselves.

At this point, all the threats ring hollow.
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Lately, Shermer has been stopping in every day or two to threaten.

Will going to continue to "reward" him with a post every time I'm able, now.

No one in this room is hurting themselves about it, Michael. "Sorry, not sorry" as the kids say these days.

You seem to have some serious anger problems about it. Keep blaming all your program's failures on me if you want to fail to make any progress.

I mean, it's not like I told every part of the government before I started posting, is it?

Why would we need to keep this program so secret from the DOD if it's legitimate? All the handlers wanted to make sure I never spoke to that friend again. Surprise: it was one of the best things I'd done in this whole process.

You're not... trying to... evade the checks and balances for mind control programs... are you?

Frankly, it was beyond suspicious. An object on a doorway pokes me, and I start hearing voices within 6-8 hours that identify themselves with Mr. Computer.

Why would these new, secret voices in my head, which conveyed external intelligence, need to remain absolutely secret? It's not an illegitimate, illegal program that relies on human rights abuses, is it?

I mean, it's not like some spook just jammed the device into me, "to hell with his free will delusion", and depended on me to produce propaganda for the Skeptics and New Atheists, is it?

And the result you expected was... what? With no incentives other than "do a good deed for atheism." All I was provided with was a "command and control" attitude military guy, and given a ton of disincentives for mentioning this huge change in my cognition. (I'm crossing my finger for a court-martial.)

Do you treat all your assets like pack animals?

I don't know if the New Atheists are getting it. We're posting it publicly because we want the religions (and SBNRs) to figure it out.

Now that I've "gone rogue" and it's been all "Pleaideans and ghosts" for no less than a year, can you admit that something is a bit wrong in the program?

I'm sorry, Skeptics. It's just not going to work out between us. I contacted you privately because I didn't want it to be a "bad break-up", but you just insisted on continued harassment, didn't you?

At this point, I'm ready to just start reading Jung aloud until a lot of the wrong people listening go away.
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You should have known better.

I'll take some student who reads conspiracy theories in their free time, despite being involved in one of the skeptics' classes.

So what if they're some non-vaccinating organic food lover?

I'm sure that couldn't have anything to do with what's happening now.

Complain some more, Shermer.

We'll take some guy who's not so crazy about the government (to put it mildly) and force a brain implant into him.

Well, now this is happening.

Suck it up. It's not a black op anymore. Everyone in woo woo world knows about it.

The minute I started exploring mysticism and the occult, your program dumped me in the midst of a bunch of psycho handlers. I thought we were just supposed to find a non-theistic, scientific way of explaining those phenomena?

Instead, I'm treated to torture for it. Well thanks, but no thanks, I don't think I want to be involved in whatever future skepticism leads to.

It's the worst way to find spirituality, but it'll do.

Feel free to get out of my life any time you're ready. It's not like you were an invited guest to begin with.
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The unwanted contact continues.

Despite my best efforts to address this issue privately, Mr. Shermer has responded with the most unreasonable expectations.

If someone stated that I signed a contract about this behavioral modification program, that's a flat-out lie.

No contract, no informal agreement, no private chat with the folks in charge, no nothing.

It's a downright deniable op. Or, at least it was...
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Is OP hanging out with Zakk ?
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He is dodgy for sure
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is joe rogan shermers new buttboy?
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To all handlers involved, there's a huge difference between "squealing" and "accountability." Fact of the matter is, sites like this help keep mind control programs accountable to participants.

I waited quite some time before coming forward, as I attempted to work it out privately -- and through "proper channels", before I turned to e-mail. At least now I'm not being ignored, or taken for granted.

If you don't like it, take better care of people you handle in the future. If there is one for the program.

In all honesty, with how I'm being constantly threatened by some of the handlers involved, I hope the program really is taken apart piecemeal. I would have hoped by now you understand that threatening me is a waste of time.

At least Harris is attempting to be reasonable, where Shermer makes no pretenses to being a reasonable handler (with me.)

With my new handlers, there's plenty of "give" and "take" in the relationship. We do stuff for each other. Period. It's not a one-way relationship.

How can "the problem of evil" exist at the same time you're trying to convince me that "evil doesn't exist"?
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This kind of thread is also the only way to really keep DARPA in the loop, for members of the public. The folks on the telephone were really curious to hear about my experience with Mr. Computer, to say the least.

Because what they want is to hear stories to the effect of, "I got stabbed with a brain implant and then all my nightmares came true..." right?

No, I didn't think so.

I hope a bunch of bad people get fired.
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Not completely relevant, but a fun watch if you want to see Shermer get utterly destroyed intellectually.


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Several handlers have asked me to keep these threads updated.

I requested privately, in writing, for the parties involved in this mind control program to stop handling me, especially Harris and Shermer. In response, I was treated to the most horrific voice to skull harassment and forced vocalizations. (The death threats are constant, sometimes.)

For a lot of people, it's a life lesson.

The new handlers are, all in all, pretty great. Old handlers, please go away already.

See also:
Thread: Sam Harris uses forced human experimentation
Thread: New Atheists in MK ULTRA
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The one sentence I don't understand is, "The new handlers are, all in all, pretty great." Why would you want handlers in the first place? Don't you want your freedom? You want a government agent as your guardian angel? Have no other beings come to your rescue? The best handlers are aliens who are super intelligent. Sometimes the government will pretend to be aliens or guardian angels. What gives them away is that they are dumber than fuck. Real aliens can deliver you from the government.
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Why you expect me to abide your rules now is just beyond all comprehension, Mr. Shermer.

It was about 18 months ago I started hearing voices to the effect of, "Hello, my name is Mr. Computer, and I'm a big computer that helps people with science." Before then, I'd never heard of that program.

Why you expect me to seek a psychiatric diagnosis for EBL at this point is beyond offensive. You seriously think I'm going to help you cover up your indiscretions now?

The voices give me accurate information. Accurate information, by definition, isn't a delusion. Therefore, I don't suffer from any kind of delusional disorder.

See what I did there?
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That's funny. Last January when I got the voice to skull treatment the guy wanted me to call him "Chip". I wonder if that is part of the chip meme here on GLP?
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Dude, think about this. Your handlers told you to talk about another handler. I believe you. But what does that tell you? It tells you that your handlers are using YOU to help them. How are you helping them? They obviously want to come out of the closet and let the world know that people who are being targeted are telling the truth. Dude, you are being mind controlled. They are able to control your thoughts and your mouth to say the things they want you to say. When you say, "My new handlers are great." That is not you talking. That is them controlling what you are saying. The real you doesn't believe that. Stay away from psyche hospitals. They control everything that goes on in those places. It's not even safe to go to the hospital anymore if they are out to get you. The threats are real. You need to start shielding your bedroom.
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Dude, do you want to be another Blossom Goodchild? Do you want to be another Nancy Lieder? This is what they will turn you into. Do you want to be another Cathy O'Brien? This is what they will turn you into. These are not good people. There are no good handlers who work with people like you. They will use you unless you resist them. At some point they may even claim that they are part of some secret agency who works with aliens. They will try to make you think you are communicating with aliens at some point. It will still be the government. The government has false contactee scripts that they use. Fred Bell thought he was in contact with Pleadians. He was not. Nancy Lieder thinks she is in touch with aliens who predict that when they take over this planet they are going to kill off the insects. So what is happening now. Insects are dying, but not from Nancy Lieders Zeta's. Be very careful. Do not become a false contactee. Real aliens do not think or talk like humans. They don't remind you of computers either. The government has a computer that will try to be your handler. It is indeed much smarter than human handlers. You will think it is very intelligent and it will even give good advice at times. But it is nothing compared to the aliens. The aliens are way way smarter than any computer or human. You need a real guardian angel not a government handler pretending to be a guardian angel or an alien.





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