Beware the Narcissists Sociopaths Psychopaths!

To leave it to Karma and God...

YES!!

Millennials are ruining my lfe! I cant stand them! Sullen, entitled, without ethical sensibilities. They are a generation of trained, enabled narcissists. I've learned they despise people with good values. And theres just nothing worse than a woman-jealous GAY millennial male. I have also become sick and tired of them. In my fifties, been hated on and driven out of job after job by groups and gangs of them. Currentlystruggling to maintain a job where i's just 2 people runing the place -- me and a snotty, pretty 25 yr old who hates my guts.

How I long to retire, but can't because I dont have the means. Mostly because of all the damage inflicted on me by them, over what I now realize was my WHOLE life. Narcissists are in control of everything and the world is their meat grinder. This little slave isnt working out? Thow another couple of good people into the grinder.

Millennials totally suck.

The vampire people are biologically, genetically different, I really believe this. Their need to cause misery seems so solid and almost desperate, they MUST need to do this... They will never be stopped because they have this need to feed. So this time now is when we will divide. This is the time of the harvest, and separating the wheat from the tares! Eventually, the population is going to really figure this out and begin this process of segregation to protect themselves! There will be testing developed so that we can all know definitively who is one and who is not. The vampires who can be identified will then be sent to a segregated area, is what I think we need! We cannot co- habit, as you say!!

The non-vampires deserve to be able to live happy lives without this hideous problem of these soul killing sneaks who have infested our world!!!

OP now Im wondering about you a little... Sounds like you are a psychologist or psychiatrist. But whats up with the 420 moniker? R U for real? Now you're talking about your patients and cases on a public forum. Granted you're anonymous but what kind of private shrink hangs around on GLP? Regularly? Even a member, with a pseudonym about pot-smoking and a cosmic alien type avatar? Wow.

SNAP
Thank you.

This country may be on the verge of electing a toxic narci for president! I am not talking about Clinton!

The D&D stage shredded my self-esteem in more ways than one. It was more than just the realization the psychopath lied to me and never really had any feelings for me. That of course was devastating. But during that stage, I really began to lose myself. I began to try to play the game, and behave like the psychopath. It’s very common for many people in recovery to question themselves and think, “Is it me? Am I the psychopath?” or “I’m the one who is toxic, damaged etc.”

The D&D stage was like a chess match. I found myself trying to predict his next move and found myself trying to think four moves ahead. It was insanity!

The dictionary defines reactive:

Reactive – Done in response to problem or situation; reacting to problems as they occur instead of doing something to prevent them.

I was reacting to the psychopath and spending too much time waiting to see how he would react to me. It was back and forth with no end in sight. I wanted it to end. But because I had become emotionally invested, and because I couldn’t see clearly that this was not normal, I felt too weak to stop it. I didn’t want to accept that I was caught up in a game that I never wanted to play to begin with. And my opponent wasn’t showing any sign of wanting to stop playing. I have no idea how long he would have kept it going.
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So you are a hypocrite?

Why havne't you included yourself in the title? Psychopaths/Sociopaths/Narcissists are the scapegoats of self-righteous sanctimonious hypocrites who can't help but project their their own hypocrisies onto others.

When a person begins to understand how a narcissist works, he or she realizes that it’s a bit like playing ping-pong. Anytime a narcissist has to self-reflect about anything, they will immediately throw the ball back to the person they consider their opponent. Narcissists will always throw the ball back to the other person. They do this in the expectation that they won’t have to take responsibility for their behavior. Narcissists hope that by not taking responsibility for their own actions (by using blaming, shaming, projection, denial, etc.) their partner will do what they have always done-forgive the narcissist, make excuses for the narcissist’s behavior, claim the narcissist couldn’t help himself because he was having a bad day, and so on.

The narcissist is a moving target and you are always on the firing line. To get away from them (or expose them), you always have to keep an eye on the ball i.e., their actions and motives for playing their games with you. You have to stop wanting to play.

You can stop catching the ball and put it back in the narcissist’s court by setting boundaries and making him aware of his actions. He then realizes he has no one to play with anymore. He will either drop the person like a hot potato, try to punish the person, or run away.

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The narcissistic projection is fascinating. They are actually blind to it.

I'm sure you have a lot of skeletons in your closet.

The narcissist can be a master of phony empathy. He appears to take you in, appears to understand what you are experiencing, and appears to genuinely be able to put himself in your shoes. These acts cause you to let your guard down; just when you think there is a genuine give-and-take in your relationship, he pulls a fast one on you-a “gotcha”- most often when you’re at a low point. He will suddenly tell you about his extraordinary new career move, a luxurious trip that he’s taking, or a huge shift in financial status that will make you feel even more diminished. Narcissists perfectly execute an unexpected psychological pounce; their purpose is to grind you down, to humiliate you, and make you feel small and inferior.

[My addition to this: Covert narcissists like to play the mirror image to this game: when you’re doing well, have good news, and are in a great mood, they’ll be a Debbie Downer and tell you all about how depressed they are or about how they never get any breaks or all the awful things that have happened to them. Or they might “caution” you about why you shouldn’t be too happy–the intention is to ruin your mood].
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But the problem with the internet is nobody knows what the person is really like. All they display is their image, or the image they want put out to the world.

This is a favorite game of narcissists…YOU are called crazy anytime you try to confront them, bring up past issues or behaviors, or expose them when they’re doing something appalling. The game goes like this: you are told that you have an overly active imagination, you don’t know what you’re talking about, they have no idea what you’re talking about, or that you’re simply making things up to cause problems. They’ll tell you that it’s obvious that you are the one who is crazy (and tell you that everyone around you agrees with them about you being crazy).

They will claim not to remember even unforgettable events, flatly deny they ever happened, and will never entertain the possibility that they might have forgotten. This is an extremely aggressive and infuriating tactic called “gaslighting”, a common technique used by abusers of all kinds. Your perceptions of reality are continually undermined so that you end up without any confidence in your own intuition, memory, or reasoning.
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Death by a thousand cuts
This is a really fun game that all narcissists like to play! It involves destroying your soul, your ego, your accomplishments and any belief system you have that does not agree with their beliefs. The way the game is won is for them to try to turn everything about you, and everything you do, into a complete failure. Extra points are given when they can take all the credit for anything good that has ever happened and put it all in their own pot. Double points are earned when they manage to put all blame for anything bad onto the other player.
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Keep away
This is a game that you, yourself, must learn to play. It is important to recognize that the narcissist will never acknowledge that any games are being played; it is up to you to stop playing. To do this, you need to stop bringing up past events/behaviors because you will always be told you’re wrong, they are right, and that you need help. Don’t try to get them to acknowledge or take responsibility for their words or actions because they will always say they didn’t do it or it never happened.

If you are in a relationship, you can walk away from the toxic narcissist in your life. If your boss is an abusive narcissist, you can find another job. You can walk away from your parents, too, if they are abusive.
If you choose to stay, one way to stop playing their game is to not respond to jabs, barbs, pleas, put-downs etc. It is difficult to stop, but perhaps thinking of it this way will help: if you’re playing a game of catch with a ball, the only way to stop the game is to not catch the ball when thrown or not pick up the ball and throw it back. It is possible to stop playing games with a narcissist but just be prepared for an onslaught of negativity, accusations and histrionics. Ignore inciting words, do not respond back to inciting words, hang up the phone (with proper notice such as “I’ve got something I need to do “-not slamming it down) or leave the location where he is at. There are many ways for you to refuse to catch the ball or put the ball down and not throw it back. This is the game of “Keep Away”-you stay away, walk away, and refuse to play.
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There is always someone else, they discard relationships like we discard trash. They change identities in a similar way, but they never change their pattern of relationship, and they rarely change who they are underneath all of their masks. Still a lonely child hoping someone really special will love them, what a tempting trap, what a prison! Your love will never be enough to save them no matter how much they try to convince you it will. You will lose yourself trying to do that.

One of the most effective ways of ‘winning’ a game with a Narcissist… let them win. If you’ve been in a relationship with a Narcissist for a while, you’ll know that at some point they stop being ‘nice’ to you, it’s an effort for them, and they switch to being mean. They will tell you some awful truth about yourself for your own good, of course, they’re wonderful like that. Don’t try to prove them wrong, that’s what they want, that gives them what they need, all of your passionate attention. Tell them they are right and walk away. You agree with them, you are the bad daughter or son, the toxic friend, the negative lover, you’re bad for them and will always hurt them, they need to get away from you, move on, let go. Can you do that?

It won’t always work, you have to be consistent and persistent or they will wear you down with their infinite persistence. You just have to keep blocking their nonsense. Block the blah blah which confuses. They are nonsense blah blah experts.
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BINGO!

It takes two to dance. Learn a new dance. Never care. Never bite. Forgive. Forget. Be comfortable in your own skin. It is not really about you.

They are Narcissist its about them!

The psychopath’s ability to groom others is unmatched. They feel an intense euphoria when they turn people against each other, especially when it’s over a competition for them. Psychopaths will manufacture situations to make you jealous and question their fidelity. In a normal relationship, people go out of their way to prove that they are trustworthy—but the psychopath does exactly the opposite. They are constantly suggesting that they might be pursuing other options, or spending time with other people, so that you can never settle down into a feeling of peace. And they will always deny this, calling you crazy for bringing it up.

The issue here is that you’re accustomed to such a high level of attention after they first lured you in, so it feels very personal & confusing when they direct that attention elsewhere. They know this. They’ll “forget” plans with you, and spend a few days with friends that they always complained about to you. They’ll ignore you to spend more time with their family, when they initially told you that they were all horrible people. They’ll seek sympathy from an ex when a member of their family dies, and explain that they just have a “special friendship” you wouldn’t understand. Often—if not always—that ex is someone they first claimed was abusive and unstable.
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The final triangulation happens when they make the decision to abandon you. This is when they’ll begin freely talking about how much this relationship is hurting them, and how they don’t know if they can deal with your behavior anymore. They will usually mention talking to a close friend about your relationship, going into details about how they both agreed that your relationship wasn’t healthy. In the meantime, they’ve been blatantly ignoring frantic messages from you. You’ll be sitting there wondering why they aren’t chatting with you about these concerns, considering it’s your relationship.

Well, the reason is that they’ve already made the decision to dump you—now they’re just torturing you. They only seek advice from people they know will agree with them. That “friend” they’re talking to is probably their next target.

After the breakup, they will openly brag about how happy they are with their new partner, where most normal people would feel very embarrassed and secretive about entering a new relationship so quickly. And even more surprising, they fully expect you to be happy for them. Otherwise you are bitter and jealous.

During this period, they make a post-dump assessment. If you grovel or beg, they are likely to find some value in your energy. They will be both disgusted and delighted by your behavior. If you lash out and begin uncovering their lies, they will do everything in their power to drive you to suicide. Even if you come back to them later with an apology, they will permanently despise any target who once dared talk back to them. You’ve seen too much—the predator behind the mask.
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Wow, you seem obsessed with them. Is that healthy?

I had a very bad experience with a narcissist. It could have buried me, it was so bad. There should be an academic course on this, independent from psychology or sociology.

Kind of reminds me what the name Mephistopheles means in Latin..."He who lives not the light"

TIL that I've been turned into a narcissist by my narcissist. Makes me wonder if folks on this spectrum really could be the mythic basis of vampires and witches.

Thread: Malignant Narcissism is the growing Spirit of our time.

Do narcissists know they are narcissists and are they happy?
The answer, from the mouth of a narcissist/sociopath: Real sociopaths (narcissists), like myself, are happy being a sociopath (narcissist). We could really care less about how others feel. We enjoy our so called cold existence. It’s all we know. So, (if you think) sociopaths really are hurting deep down inside and want to change if given a chance, nonsense! True (narcissists and) sociopaths don’t want to change. Most don’t even believe they have a problem. We love every minute of it. It’s who we are. We feel in total control of our lives using this method. Anything less is unacceptable.

Why doesn’t the narcissist seem to miss me like I miss him when we break up?
The answer, from the mouth of a narcissist/sociopath:We don’t need you. You could disappear tomorrow and we could care less. We’re not prone to being controlled in any way, shape or form. We are survivalists. Trust us we would live if the human race disappeared tomorrow. We are far too self serving and self absorbed not to. At the very least? We’d give it a damn good shot! And we don’t need you in some round about way either. You’re mistaking us for someone who gives a shit or has feelings like your own. Trust me we don’t. We simply use you because you’re nearby, you’re convenient or we’re bored and desire something you possess. Otherwise we would go on without you just fine. Because, again, we don’t possess feelings like you do. Getting it now?

How can a narcissist just move on to someone else like it’s no big deal?
The answer, from the mouth of a narcissist/sociopath:I think sociopaths do a good job of living in the now. They can focus on the task at hand without being influenced by feelings or events from the past, other lessons learned, and they don’t become so anxious about the future. When they do get anxious it’s more like a response to present situations, just like animals do.
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I don't want anyone else to get hurt...

But with that said, I can predict situations in which you might want to beat a sociopath at his own game. What next? Well, as mentioned in earlier posts, one of the sociopath's main tools is mimicking human emotions. How do they know what to mimic? By watching you. How do you trick them? By feeding them false information. A sociopath's ability to act normal is only as good as the information he has available to him about what you expect. When you feed him false information, it ends up like one of those dry British farces where misunderstandings and confusions abound. But you're not confused because you know what's going on. And then you've beat him. That's all there is to it.
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So, to be successful, and to be such a pain to them, that they either move on, or behave themselves towards you, you need to reverse these things.

Show that you are not scared of them – there is no fear – there is no control
Feed him false knowledge
Additionally feed false knowledge about weaknesses
When a sociopath loses knowledge, he loses control. You win.

To get even with a sociopath, you need to treat him EXACTLY the same way that he treats you. I promise you that he won’t particularly like it. I also understand that for someone who has been emotionally, mentally, damaged and scarred by a sociopath, this might not be such a good idea. You do need to be strong. It is also not advisable for those involved with someone who is violent. But it works! I want you to remember that you have SURVIVED this, and you can make the aftermath both better and more tailored to your liking.

And so you do the following:

Give false information. Don’t tell him the truth. Make up where you have been, and where you are going (if he doesn’t know what you are doing, he cannot control you)
Tell out and out lies
Derail him, by saying one thing, and then changing and saying something else.
Whatever you say to him, make sure it is not the truth, and constantly change your mind
BE NICE
BE CHARMING
Say words that he wants to hear
If he threatens you (to call work, email people) do the same back
Lure him into a false sense of security
Be CALM
SMILE
The most important thing is MIRROR him, whatever he does, you do (but keep it within the law), let him know you are recording phone conversations…..
Be prepared to lose ‘friends’ who are not really friends. A real friend wouldn’t leave your side no matter what happens or what is said.
Lose your FEAR — he is controlling you through FEAR….. so (even if you are still scared) show you are no longer scared or intimidated by him – this is really important. Fake it if you have to. DO NOT SHOW FEAR EVER
I know that for most people, it can be difficult to act fake, as we are programmed as human beings to be kind, caring, to care about others welfare.

But remember that this is exactly what the sociopath has done to you. What you have to do is take away – remove his control over you.
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