Beware the Narcissists Sociopaths Psychopaths!

Empath and Narcissist enter into a relationship together, it creates a magnetic, yet vibrationally dysfunctional union because the Empath gives to the point of complete and utter exhaustion. They will give every last effort to “fix” the Narcissist and the relationship, but it never happens. The Narcissist cannot assess another’s perspective because their ego won’t allow that, thus there is no motive for the Narcissist to change. In fact, attempts to “help” the Narcissist and draw attention to their dysfunctional behaviors often make the Narcissist worse because it contradicts the cravings of their ego.

It also profoundly disorients the Empath, who is often destroyed by the relationship. However, it’s at this point that the unaware Empath experiences a soul crisis and comes to realize what they are. Though the experience with the Narcissist is painful and overwhelming, the Empath usually learns their soul lessons and undergoes an awakening, whereas the Narcissist remains the same.
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An empath in a relationship with a narcissist will become what the narcissist wants, even to the point of self-annihilation. Empaths will give up everything they love, everything that makes them individuals, and it will still not be enough. They will beat themselves up constantly for being unworthy because that’s how their partner sees them and the partner’s feelings become their own.

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BA or higher?

MSc

Very nice. Clinical?

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Sorry I saw a problem not being addressed and the problem being ignored is always the biggest problem in my experience. It causes the data to be lopsided leading to an inaccurate conclusion to be drawn which of course will transfer into an ineffective and or inefficient solution to the problem attempting to be resolved or improved upon.

In laymens terms; That dog won't hunt.

Was with a sociopath for six years. It nearly killed me. It took me two years to finally break away.

When I did, I actually was able to use his tricks against him and got revenge.

I moved to another city to be with him. I had no friends or support system in this new city. I took a job making half of what I had been making. I was promised that he would "take care" of me. I went through all of my savings within six months.

He was constantly out cheating on me and gaslighting and emotionally abusing me at home. I would catch him cheating but couldn't leave because I had no money.

Finally, I caught him cheating when my sister was visiting and I just couldn't allow my family to know I had been being treated that way. He tried to lie his way out of it and his story changed at least seven times. I went on my lunch break the next day and rented the crappiest apartment you could imagine. I had no furniture. I slept on an air mattress. I moved out on Halloween and I found out that by Christmas that he had a new woman spending the holiday with his family (not even the girl he had been cheating with, a completely new woman).

This was three years ago. He hoovered me back a few times, but each time it was easier to leave. The last time I knew I was done but enjoyed messing with him. You see, in the years since we broke up I went out and made a large group of friends while he hasn't been able to make a single friend. So, now he wants to come out with me because he feels like a loser. I'm doing well with my career, while he has been fired from several jobs.

He wanted me to move back in with him, and I let him believe that I would do so. He rented an apartment that he could never afford on his own. I had no intention of moving back in with him. After he signed the lease and was set to move in in a few days I said that I didn't think that moving back in was a good idea and that we shouldn't see each other anymore. He was crying and threatening suicide and talking about how broke he was. That was my revenge. Felt great, but a little scary to me that I was capable of doing something so heinous. But, I learned from a master.

a woman is a "survivalist" and mother and will use any tool, without hesitation, that works to keep your children (and hers) safe, well fed and housed that is within her reach, and works on the father of her children (your children). It is her nature, bred into her, at the time of the making of Adam and Eve. She will never change. She is a warrior of motherly love and nurturing, and her weapons plentiful.

{Raises eyebrows appreciatively} Indeed. Pleasure to meet you sir. MSa in sounding important myself. I won't embarrass myself comparing pedigrees with you. Thank you for the insights and for answering a personal question.

Your definition applies to men just as equally. Just replace mother with father. That is called being a human.

some people go overboard with the labeling others as "narcissists" and "sociopaths!" though.

they can sound like "feminists" shouting about all the "chauvanists" and it becomes a big name-calling fest where everyone acts like they are the defacto authority on who is who and what is what/

everyone is "selfish" and a "sociopath" to some degree - everyone checks themselves in a mirror from time to time.

sometimes it's the people who don't like themselves who go around pointing "narcissist!" at people who they perceive to simply have a comfortable image of their self and a healthy ego.

haters using big words to label people basically.

the people who focus on the clinical "diagnosis" and who profit from suggesting all children have "ADD!!" and need ritalin... those are the fucking psychopaths.

I Am A Psychopath The rumors about me are real. I did it. I took advantage of her and I tried to ruin her.
She looked strong and I wanted to bring her down. Now, everything bores me.
She was the most exciting thing I've ever been a part of, but I was stupid. I ****** it up.
I want something bad to happen to her. And I want to be the one to do it.
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In general if you talk about narcissists in a gender specific way then you have more of a problem with the gender than the narcissim. One problem at a time needs to be dealt with. First you forgive the gender for being different than you so you are not blaming gender for a genderless disorder. Once you have accomplished that you can proceed to view narcissism in its proper light without the distraction of gender bias and sterotypes. Once you can do that you can begin to accurately identify narcissistic traits in others of both sexes and yourself so you can finally begin to heal.

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Stop complaining. Only thing you do is believe in your own negative thoughts and labels. You're ruled by your ego that's been shadwed by your pain-body.

Try to live in the "now". (look for Eckhardt Tolle/The powr of Now)

Thank you kindly.

I am afraid most I see have such avoidance and blame shifting behaviors in place it is almost impossible to help them over the Internet because they arw obsessed with blaming their behavior on another or justifying the same behavior their abuser used on them being used against others by themselves.

Continuing the abuse cycle.

So I usually go hide from threads like these as I will do now I think lol.

I lived with the father of my child for many years. He is the classic example of a narcissist. And when I finally realized what he had done to me and stopped putting up with it, he was hell do deal with and turned abusive, mostly verbally. He couldn't stand that I no longer put up with his shit and left. He turned into an even bigger monster. I no longer even speak to him. All communications are cut off and blocked. Luckily he found someone even more gullible than I was to occupy his time. LOL!

I am very wary of who I let get close to me. I really need to get to know someone and watch how they behave before I trust them. It is sad, but after those years and what he did to me and my self esteem and self worth, I refuse to let it happen again.

Yes...BEWARE!

For later.

Grest thread, thanks OP!!

The war of the sexes, still going strong with no end in sight.

Narcissists Dont feel guilt- based on objective right and wrong-- they feel shame-- based on exposure. When they get caught, they're answer is always the same: "wait, that's not really who I am..."

The only thing narcissists truly feel is the pain of narcissistic injury, and rage.

The psychopath is utilitarian: I needed a burger, you had it, so I stabbed you in the throat. Whatever.

As bad as that sounds, here's the narcissist's discourse on the same crime: I needed a burger, you had it, so I stabbed you in the throat. But wait, that's not the whole story, listen, what I did was justified because...

All narcissists have this potential, it is intrinsic to the personality structure, which is defined as "me above all things." Sure, usually they figure out non-violent ways to live their life, but that potential is there.

The reason a psychopath kills is because he is bad. The reason a narcissist kills is so that no one finds out he is bad.
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So what kind of system would you develop to neutralize the sociopaths and psychopaths?

What would be needed in order for normal people to be free of these parasitic people?

The number they do on their prey, is debilitating. They're incapable of love, and people are only a game to them.

How do you think he turned you from empath to psycho? That's a new one. Were you with him for long?

By keeping you in a constant state of anxiety, he was able to manipulate you. I imagine he wouldn't want you medicated, because it wouldn't suit his needs. If he could keep you unbalanced, driving you crazy would be simpler. Please don't think because you're bipolar it was easier for him, but it was an unfair advantage.

Thank "God" you made it.

Unfortunately, I can't message you because I'm not a paid member. I have loads of info on this very topic.

Nothing short then separating us... Put them all on one world and let them have at it...

So I guess I have to wait for Gods plan... As they will never change! No matter what!

Empaths are often just as bad as narci types -- as far as self-centeredness. They demand payment with appreciation and approval and they often behave the way they do to feed a voracious appetite to be desired/loved.

It, too, is dishonest and corrosive.

You could argue they are the same thing but on the opposite end of the spectrum.

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If you could create segregation, what methods would you use in identifying these harmful personality traits?