The "Khameini move" - Ahmadinejad OUT of Iran nuke talks? | |
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User ID: 160832 United States 01/21/2007 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran Soft-Posturing For Nuke Talks Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatSteve Schippert [link to rapidrecon.threatswatch.org] The United Kingdom’s Sunday Times is reporting that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini is considering removing Ahmadinejad and his current team from any representation of Iran on its nuclear program and replacing them with “a more moderate team for international negotiations on the supervision of its nuclear facilities.” The ‘Khameini’ move, if implemented, would come towards the end of the 60-day deadline the UN Security Council demanded for Iran’s cessation of uranium enrichment activities. It would also come after Khameini’s health has taken such a drastic turn that he was reported as being dead, which was immediately followed by a sudden move – claimed to be at the behest of the ailing Supreme Leader – of round criticism of Ahmadinejad in Iranian state-controlled newspapers and a directive to the Mejlis permitting them to draft a formal admonishment from the elected body. All of this unusually robust activity while failing to meet with foreign visitors or customarily delivering Friday sermons. Expect Europe, Russia and China to react within hours at the news of potentially renewed nuclear talks with Iran, perhaps even extending or otherwise circumventing the looming UN Security Council mandated enrichment cessation deadline, with ripple effects on every other dealing regarding Iran. Further anaylisis will be provided as this develops, and it most certainly will. The nuclear crisis looks to once again serve to obscure the true nature of the threat from Iran for those who wish not to acknowledge it, much less address it. It’s the terrorism, stupid. In yesterday’s commentary, Talk Iran’s Walk: A Start, addressed was the fact that Iran walks the walk as the world’s foremost state sponsor of international terrorism, crossing sectarian lines and supporting terrorists of varying stripes, from Hizballah to al-Qaeda to Hamas and including killing American servicemen in Iraq. The world will soon want to talk the talk of nuclear discussions with a newly sidelined menace in Ahmadinejad removed from the uncomfortable landscape. If we are going to talk at all, we would be well advised to Talk Iran’s Walk rather than continue to ignore it, watching with seeming disinterest as more US soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines die at the hands of an aggressive enemy we prefer to relegate to the United Nations for discussion on a weapon that they do not yet even possess. The weapons they do possess are killing us. And everyone’s OK with this? January 21, 2007 2:56 AM Good post GOG! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 184989 Australia 01/21/2007 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran Soft-Posturing For Nuke Talks Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatSteve Schippert [link to rapidrecon.threatswatch.org] The United Kingdom’s Sunday Times is reporting that Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini is considering removing Ahmadinejad and his current team from any representation of Iran on its nuclear program and replacing them with “a more moderate team for international negotiations on the supervision of its nuclear facilities.” The ‘Khameini’ move, if implemented, would come towards the end of the 60-day deadline the UN Security Council demanded for Iran’s cessation of uranium enrichment activities. It would also come after Khameini’s health has taken such a drastic turn that he was reported as being dead, which was immediately followed by a sudden move – claimed to be at the behest of the ailing Supreme Leader – of round criticism of Ahmadinejad in Iranian state-controlled newspapers and a directive to the Mejlis permitting them to draft a formal admonishment from the elected body. All of this unusually robust activity while failing to meet with foreign visitors or customarily delivering Friday sermons. Expect Europe, Russia and China to react within hours at the news of potentially renewed nuclear talks with Iran, perhaps even extending or otherwise circumventing the looming UN Security Council mandated enrichment cessation deadline, with ripple effects on every other dealing regarding Iran. Further anaylisis will be provided as this develops, and it most certainly will. The nuclear crisis looks to once again serve to obscure the true nature of the threat from Iran for those who wish not to acknowledge it, much less address it. It’s the terrorism, stupid. In yesterday’s commentary, Talk Iran’s Walk: A Start, addressed was the fact that Iran walks the walk as the world’s foremost state sponsor of international terrorism, crossing sectarian lines and supporting terrorists of varying stripes, from Hizballah to al-Qaeda to Hamas and including killing American servicemen in Iraq. The world will soon want to talk the talk of nuclear discussions with a newly sidelined menace in Ahmadinejad removed from the uncomfortable landscape. If we are going to talk at all, we would be well advised to Talk Iran’s Walk rather than continue to ignore it, watching with seeming disinterest as more US soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines die at the hands of an aggressive enemy we prefer to relegate to the United Nations for discussion on a weapon that they do not yet even possess. The weapons they do possess are killing us. And everyone’s OK with this? January 21, 2007 2:56 AM If Israel has nukes ANYONE should be allowed to have nukes. In fact, I would recommend that if a neighbouring country does not have nukes that they acquire the capability ASAP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 107860 Sweden 01/21/2007 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zionist Propaganda. Here are the news from the Horses mouth: [link to www.alalam.ir] Ahmadinejad: No Change in Nuclear Policy TEHRAN, Jan. 21--President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stressed on Sunday that Iran will go on with its nuclear energy program and will not cave in to more sanction resolutions. The Security Council passed a resolution on December 23 imposing sanctions on Iran for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment which is allowed under the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Ahamdinejad told lawmakers in parliament that "even if they adopt 10 other resolutions it will not have any effect". "As our supreme leader (Ayatollah Ali Khamenei) said, no Iranian official has the right to back down on Iran's nuclear right," he added. On January 8, Ayatollah Khamenei emphatically rejected the UN resolution, vowing that the Islamic Republic would not back down in its nuclear drive. Iran insists its nuclear program is solely aimed at meeting peaceful energy needs, rejecting the West's allegations that it could diverted towards building a bomb. On Saturday, Iran's top nuclear negotiator Larijani said the nation's armed forces were ready to face any threat to its nuclear installations, amid speculation the US may be planning a military strike. President Ahmadinejad (front r) submits the new budget bill to Parliament Speaker Gholamali Haddad-Adel. Add to favorites | About us | Homepage | Contact us | Make Alalam your homepage Copyright © 2004 - 2007 Alalam Inc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 184915 United Kingdom 01/21/2007 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zionist Propaganda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 107860Here are the news from the Horses mouth: [link to www.alalam.ir] Ahmadinejad: No Change in Nuclear Policy TEHRAN, Jan. 21--President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stressed on Sunday that Iran will go on with its nuclear energy program and will not cave in to more sanction resolutions. The Security Council passed a resolution on December 23 imposing sanctions on Iran for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment which is allowed under the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Ahamdinejad told lawmakers in parliament that "even if they adopt 10 other resolutions it will not have any effect". "As our supreme leader (Ayatollah Ali Khamenei) said, no Iranian official has the right to back down on Iran's nuclear right," he added. On January 8, Ayatollah Khamenei emphatically rejected the UN resolution, vowing that the Islamic Republic would not back down in its nuclear drive. Iran insists its nuclear program is solely aimed at meeting peaceful energy needs, rejecting the West's allegations that it could diverted towards building a bomb. On Saturday, Iran's top nuclear negotiator Larijani said the nation's armed forces were ready to face any threat to its nuclear installations, amid speculation the US may be planning a military strike. President Ahmadinejad (front r) submits the new budget bill to Parliament Speaker Gholamali Haddad-Adel. Add to favorites | About us | Homepage | Contact us | Make Alalam your homepage Copyright © 2004 - 2007 Alalam Inc. Thanks. |
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Forum Administrator User ID: 181867 United States 01/21/2007 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran should be feeling isolated because they are, Nobody wants this crap in the region. They are train wrecking Iraq and fomenting and helping to continue the violence there. Supporting the Hezzies and Syria which will bring nothing but more confrontation in Lebanon and Palestine with Israel and not helping any solutions get any closer there. Screaming nukes nukes we want nukes. The Appeasofags of Europe are doing what they always do, blubbering to let anyone anywhere have their way so they will be liked. The Russians are pissed because it's bringing a bunch more unwanted turmoil to their backyard and not helping with their own Muslim situation in Chechnya and pretty much making the Russians look bad, as usual, for supplying them with nuke tech and being involved with that. Now Iran is enriching Uranium and once you have Highly enriched Uranium it's pretty easy to build a gun type device, so simple and fool proof in fact that we did not even bother to test the gun device prior to Hiroshima. And once again America is the big bad bully because we don't think the situation is so swell and that maybe Iran having some fucking Atomic bombs isn't really a good idea after all. Now the Grand Wazoo Ayatollah might chuck a new face at the world to talk about how peacefull they are and that it would be a really good idea for them to have nuclear capability. How many people will pipe up and say that they should have it? Lot's. I say let em all have nukes and sit back and watch what happens in a few years and build our own nuclear power plants and get some electrical energy and make the E-fuel cost go down because the entire ME is going to a wasteland as soon as a few dozen nukes are floating around in the hands of these 15th century asswipes. Who cares it'll be Europe and Russia that get the fallout anyway and since they watched and helped they can deal with the fun part after, checking their rad levels and counting their kids arms. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 107860 Sweden 01/21/2007 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, Wake up! Remember the oligarchs who bought whole industries of the USSR for a few hundrd million dollars, Iran a vcountry with billions of dolars income cou.öde buy anything. So Iran is not considered as an enemy in the Middle East by the peoples of the Midle East. The Puppet rulers in the Middlle East of the US and the Zionists are against Iran . Do not Mix Up things because then there is no apreciation of what you write or think. |
RythymRing
User ID: 181455 United States 01/21/2007 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sunny shit starter & stirrer, I shit the shit, My shit is stirred not shaken, Winner of the golden shit-stirrer award, Calling someone "a bit of a shit stirrer" in Ireland is usually a term of endearment rather than an insult. |
Grizzled Old Goat
(OP) User ID: 137175 Canada 01/21/2007 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zionist Propaganda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 107860Here are the news from the Horses mouth: [link to www.alalam.ir] Ahmadinejad: No Change in Nuclear Policy TEHRAN, Jan. 21--President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stressed on Sunday that Iran will go on with its nuclear energy program and will not cave in to more sanction resolutions. I guess it's all zionist propaganda to you - we'll see what happens. The truth is that Khameini authorized oppostion to Ahmadinejad in parliament just this week - an unprecendented move. He's finished! |
Grizzled Old Goat
(OP) User ID: 137175 Canada 01/21/2007 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ofcourse you don't believe for one moment that the USAs intention are all sweet and good.....Israel has a big responsibility to the 800,000 displaced Palistanians. Will they accept this?....Or fighting forever, the other choice.....Ahmadinejad, standing up to Goliath Quoting: RythymRingThe story is about Iranian internal politics - not Israel or the US.. |
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God's Shadow
User ID: 168506 United States 01/21/2007 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess GLPers like him better than the Mullahs OR the Iranian people.. Quoting: Evil Twin 13122without a doubt, he's anti-Bush, so it's all good... Not really. Ahmadinejad and Bush are made from the same cloth. Both belong to right-wing, conservative parties, both are brought up under strong religious convictions, and both believed in a higher father. Both are assertive, extreme and passive-aggressive. Bush and Ahmadinejad have more in common with each other but they don't realize that or maybe the powers behind them doesn't wanted Bush and Ahmadinejad to realize that? |
Grizzled Old Goat
(OP) User ID: 137175 Canada 01/21/2007 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess GLPers like him better than the Mullahs OR the Iranian people.. Quoting: God's Shadowwithout a doubt, he's anti-Bush, so it's all good... Not really. Ahmadinejad and Bush are made from the same cloth. Both belong to right-wing, conservative parties, both are brought up under strong religious convictions, and both believed in a higher father. Both are assertive, extreme and passive-aggressive. Bush and Ahmadinejad have more in common with each other but they don't realize that or maybe the powers behind them doesn't wanted Bush and Ahmadinejad to realize that? Interesting, but an important difference is Ahmadinejad's religious nihilism - to ol' Moondoggy, the apocalypse is a good thing.. |