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BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have missed my point. I do think murder is a sin and a crime. Quoting: JaxP the Deplorable If you apply your logic from your OP to any other situation it sounds stupid. You claim in your OP that because God knows ahead of time that you will abort your baby then he has essentially condoned the action. Well, God knows what you are capable of in all situations, so he must condone murder, theft and everything else....that is your logic. The reason you have missed my point is, you must think that a fetus is not a human life. That my friend is the real problem here. Our society has convinced it's population that abortion is OK, on the basis that a fetus is not a human life. However, you admit that a fetus has a soul and that life was a gift from God, but you refuse to associate terminating that life with murder. You are literally circle-jerking yourself inside your own head to justify ending the life of the most vulnerable among us. Well said :clappa And that's the key issue. "They" don't abort unless it effects their future ambitions, in a carnal way. Abortion is for the cattle. who is "they?" who is "the cattle?" G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62903038 United States 10/23/2016 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO GOD WAS MAKING HEALTHIER BABIES PRIOR TO ROE V WADE? HE JUST LOST HIS TOUCH IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AND NEEDS OUR POLITICAL HELP TO CORRECT HIS SCREW UPS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62903038 women have been engaging in abortion for centuries before roe v. wade THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 50 MILLION SINCE ROE V WADE. PRIOR THE NUMBER WAS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY 200k ANNUALLY THOUGH THAT'S A NUMBER PRO ABORTION PEOPLE USE, SO ITS LIKELY LOWER. QUITE AN UPTICK FROM GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45041008 Canada 10/23/2016 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have missed my point. I do think murder is a sin and a crime. Quoting: JaxP the Deplorable If you apply your logic from your OP to any other situation it sounds stupid. You claim in your OP that because God knows ahead of time that you will abort your baby then he has essentially condoned the action. Well, God knows what you are capable of in all situations, so he must condone murder, theft and everything else....that is your logic. The reason you have missed my point is, you must think that a fetus is not a human life. That my friend is the real problem here. Our society has convinced it's population that abortion is OK, on the basis that a fetus is not a human life. However, you admit that a fetus has a soul and that life was a gift from God, but you refuse to associate terminating that life with murder. You are literally circle-jerking yourself inside your own head to justify ending the life of the most vulnerable among us. Well said :clappa And that's the key issue. "They" don't abort unless it effects their future ambitions, in a carnal way. Abortion is for the cattle. who is "they?" who is "the cattle?" Excuse me? I was talking to someone else |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45041008 It's definitely a sacrifice ritual of some sort, to kill your progeny is imbecilic and insane But i'll tell you the real reason, it's biblical, they're trying to eliminate any possibility that the messiah was born out of their arms and reach. they study and know the bible more than the most prolific jews and Christians in the world, they know that God is something of a mystery, and works in mysterious ways. All the stories hint to it,. Most notable, Jesus was said to be born of an unlovable character in Mary. G-d knows who will be born, to whom, when, and where. This is made clear when G-d states when Sarah will bear Isaac. What you two are engaging in is blood libel and all your assertions are false, fear based, and hate based. Blood libel definition -an accusation that Jewish people used the blood of Christians in religious rituals, especially in the preparation of Passover bread, that was perpetrated throughout the Middle Ages and (sporadically) until the early 20th century. Are you sure about that? Sounds like you're trying to slander me. I never once implicated you were responsible for the practice of abortion. So? If you're not going to address my comment, why should we continue? you made a claim that I was participating in blood libel. WTF and you claim to be an Israelite? wow are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel? i bolded the blood libel snippets for you G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
TruthSeeker911
User ID: 69646424 United States 10/23/2016 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have missed my point. I do think murder is a sin and a crime. Quoting: JaxP the Deplorable If you apply your logic from your OP to any other situation it sounds stupid. You claim in your OP that because God knows ahead of time that you will abort your baby then he has essentially condoned the action. Well, God knows what you are capable of in all situations, so he must condone murder, theft and everything else....that is your logic. The reason you have missed my point is, you must think that a fetus is not a human life. That my friend is the real problem here. Our society has convinced it's population that abortion is OK, on the basis that a fetus is not a human life. However, you admit that a fetus has a soul and that life was a gift from God, but you refuse to associate terminating that life with murder. You are literally circle-jerking yourself inside your own head to justify ending the life of the most vulnerable among us. Well said And that's the key issue. "They" don't abort unless it effects their future ambitions, in a carnal way. Abortion is for the cattle. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28916096 Canada 10/23/2016 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aborting an otherwise healthy fetus that is somewhat already developed and would be born without any issues... is murder fuckface. It's not a DEBATE about whether or not it's murder (it is). It's a debate about whether or not society is just okay with massacring thousands of defenseless infants a year. Abortions should be last resort and should not be taxpayer funded even a LITTLE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45118787 Mexico 10/23/2016 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO GOD WAS MAKING HEALTHIER BABIES PRIOR TO ROE V WADE? HE JUST LOST HIS TOUCH IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AND NEEDS OUR POLITICAL HELP TO CORRECT HIS SCREW UPS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62903038 women have been engaging in abortion for centuries before roe v. wade THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 50 MILLION SINCE ROE V WADE. PRIOR THE NUMBER WAS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY 200k ANNUALLY THOUGH THAT'S A NUMBER PRO ABORTION PEOPLE USE, SO ITS LIKELY LOWER. QUITE AN UPTICK FROM GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? That is not accurate. Abortion has been legal since 1973. And since then, in the U.S. it has always averaged more than 1.4 million per year. NOW GET THIS: I have looked into the topic of abortion and spoken to abortion providers directly. They say that for tax purposes, they under report the number of abortions by about 40 percent. So the actual number of abortions per year in the U.S. since 1973 has been right around 2 million a year. It is a LOT worse than people realize. |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aborting an otherwise healthy fetus that is somewhat already developed and would be born without any issues... is murder fuckface. It's not a DEBATE about whether or not it's murder (it is). It's a debate about whether or not society is just okay with massacring thousands of defenseless infants a year. Abortions should be last resort and should not be taxpayer funded even a LITTLE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28916096 who says it's murder? you? based upon what criteria? where does G-d say it is murder? where in the bible is it stated abortion is murder? Last Edited by BMKSY on 10/23/2016 08:40 AM G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72975330 United States 10/23/2016 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and no one should bear children just because society says so. Regardless of society's reasons for wanting progeny. Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname I think it's child abuse to bring an unwanted child into the world. People who do so, do a disservice to their offspring. agreed An "unwanted child", what a lofty determination. Who gets to decide that a child is "unwanted"? You, me , some council of the elders, the overlord AI Quantum Computer network, the Intergalactic Council, chicken entrail/tea leave readings... Maybe we could apply this same concept to ALL people! Yes, we should all be assessed, probably annually, by some kind of civil proceeding, decided by a local magistrate or a jury of our peers, whether we are "wanted" or not. Anyone deemed "unwanted"could then be eliminated, with no waiting time or right of appeal, immediately, at the nearest available "medical facility". Sounds like a grand idea, got anymore? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45041008 Canada 10/23/2016 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BMKSY G-d knows who will be born, to whom, when, and where. This is made clear when G-d states when Sarah will bear Isaac. What you two are engaging in is blood libel and all your assertions are false, fear based, and hate based. Blood libel definition -an accusation that Jewish people used the blood of Christians in religious rituals, especially in the preparation of Passover bread, that was perpetrated throughout the Middle Ages and (sporadically) until the early 20th century. Are you sure about that? Sounds like you're trying to slander me. I never once implicated you were responsible for the practice of abortion. So? If you're not going to address my comment, why should we continue? you made a claim that I was participating in blood libel. WTF and you claim to be an Israelite? wow are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel? i bolded the blood libel snippets for you No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it. The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time. But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism. You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either You just don't have the heart for it |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO GOD WAS MAKING HEALTHIER BABIES PRIOR TO ROE V WADE? HE JUST LOST HIS TOUCH IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AND NEEDS OUR POLITICAL HELP TO CORRECT HIS SCREW UPS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62903038 women have been engaging in abortion for centuries before roe v. wade THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 50 MILLION SINCE ROE V WADE. PRIOR THE NUMBER WAS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY 200k ANNUALLY THOUGH THAT'S A NUMBER PRO ABORTION PEOPLE USE, SO ITS LIKELY LOWER. QUITE AN UPTICK FROM GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? where can you point me to G-d's original plan, because i would really live to read it. G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45041008 Blood libel definition -an accusation that Jewish people used the blood of Christians in religious rituals, especially in the preparation of Passover bread, that was perpetrated throughout the Middle Ages and (sporadically) until the early 20th century. Are you sure about that? Sounds like you're trying to slander me. I never once implicated you were responsible for the practice of abortion. So? If you're not going to address my comment, why should we continue? you made a claim that I was participating in blood libel. WTF and you claim to be an Israelite? wow are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel? i bolded the blood libel snippets for you No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it. The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time. But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism. You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either You just don't have the heart for it go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it make sure you tell G-d about your part in this: [link to www.jta.org] jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel Last Edited by BMKSY on 10/23/2016 08:46 AM G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45041008 Canada 10/23/2016 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45041008 If you're not going to address my comment, why should we continue? you made a claim that I was participating in blood libel. WTF and you claim to be an Israelite? wow are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel? i bolded the blood libel snippets for you No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it. The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time. But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism. You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either You just don't have the heart for it go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it make sure you tell G-d about your part in this: [link to www.jta.org] jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel lmao! So god is going to punish me for disagreeing with and disproving his self proclaimed daughter? Amazing |
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BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, you do realize that the anemone in your avatar frame closely resembles the crystal entity of death in Star Trek Next Generation, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45118787 I bet you do. it is a sea anemone. a former client of mine had it as his desktop background, i asked him where he got it, he told me digitalblasphemy.com...i checked out the site, signed up, download some of the images and used it as my desktop background at home (this in 2005) to display on my dual monitors....anyway, when looking in the flower section here (glp provided avatars), i found it and use it from time to time. if you have a personal problem with it i suggest you take it up with trinity. G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BMKSY are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel? i bolded the blood libel snippets for you No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it. The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time. But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism. You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either You just don't have the heart for it go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it make sure you tell G-d about your part in this: [link to www.jta.org] jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel lmao! So god is going to punish me for disagreeing with and disproving his self proclaimed daughter? Amazing where have i proclaimed anything? G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45041008 Canada 10/23/2016 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45041008 No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it. The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time. But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism. You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either You just don't have the heart for it go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it make sure you tell G-d about your part in this: [link to www.jta.org] jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel lmao! So god is going to punish me for disagreeing with and disproving his self proclaimed daughter? Amazing where have i proclaimed anything? "G-d is all-knowing (omniscient), so therefore G-d knows ahead of time which fetuses will develop into viable babies and live a life...a life G-d knows of before it even occurs" you make it way too easy |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | apologetics in action: [link to www.lifenews.com] www.lifenews.com/2012/08/17/best-and-worst-biblical-arguments-for-the-pro-life-view/ G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
BMKSY
(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | many people, chiefly i am reading christians also cite jeremiah 1:5 as a verse regarding "divine foreknowledge" vs. a statement regarding when soulled life begins G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
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(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BMKSY go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it make sure you tell G-d about your part in this: [link to www.jta.org] jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel lmao! So god is going to punish me for disagreeing with and disproving his self proclaimed daughter? Amazing where have i proclaimed anything? "G-d is all-knowing (omniscient), so therefore G-d knows ahead of time which fetuses will develop into viable babies and live a life...a life G-d knows of before it even occurs" :weirdo you make it way too easy well, go tell that to the numerous others who view the verse the same as i do "While the verse is often cherry picked by the Pro-Life movement as proof that life begins at conception, in context the verse is more than likely a statement about the doctrine of Divine Foreknowledge. "Though even if we accept the assertion that "Life" begins at conception, we have to face the fact that God seems to be staunchly Pro-Choice." paul frick "I know that Jeremiah 1:5 is often used by pro-life advocates to argue that life begins at conception, but one difficulty with using this particular verse to argue for any policy on abortion is that the clause "and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" suggests that the verse only applies to Jeremiah himself, not to humanity as a whole. Unless somebody wants to argue that all humanity qualifies as ordained prophets, I don't see how this particular verse is applicable." jon pennington "I would argue yes based on the belief that the spiritual world exists outside of space and time. Before you are born God has seen your entire life because he exists beyond time. So even though conception is the definite starting point for your mortal life, you may have lived as an intention of God, part of his divine plan, albeit without any free will. What I'm suggesting is that to truly answer this question one must be able to limit the definition of life to this earthly one, and of having free will, otherwise one must remove the earthly lens and include the possibility that life includes the yet-to-be-acted-upon intention of God since he is living, and since that intention is part of God, it has no beginning." james gilbert Last Edited by BMKSY on 10/23/2016 09:26 AM G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
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(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)] G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9739208 Spain 10/23/2016 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church Quoting: BMKSY this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)] I think it is shocking that you use God to justify this |
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(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church Quoting: BMKSY this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)] I think it is shocking that you use God to justify this im not im saying G-d cannot be used to justify demonization of women who have had abortion or criminalizing / illegalizing abortion you see there are even devout bible studying christians who agree, G-d is pro-choice, bc there is no sound logical biblical basis for any other view G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9739208 Spain 10/23/2016 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church Quoting: BMKSY this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)] I think it is shocking that you use God to justify this im not im saying G-d cannot be used to justify demonization of women who have had abortion or criminalizing / illegalizing abortion you see there are even devout bible studying christians who agree, G-d is pro-choice, bc there is no sound logical biblical basis for any other view Unless as the Bulgarian póster said you are referring to some other entity and not the God of Jesús? |
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(OP) User ID: 72274748 United States 10/23/2016 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church Quoting: BMKSY this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)] I think it is shocking that you use God to justify this im not im saying G-d cannot be used to justify demonization of women who have had abortion or criminalizing / illegalizing abortion you see there are even devout bible studying christians who agree, G-d is pro-choice, bc there is no sound logical biblical basis for any other view Unless as the Bulgarian póster said you are referring to some other entity and not the God of Jesús? im not the one using bible verses to try and justify an anti-abortion stance also, christians are positing that G-d is pro-choice and that jeremiah 1:5 cannot be used to justify anti-abortion ideology Last Edited by BMKSY on 10/23/2016 10:12 AM G-d spoke all these words, to respond: "I am the Lord, your G-d, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence. You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth. You shall neither prostrate yourself before them nor worship them, for I, the Lord, your G-d, am a zealous G-d, Who visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, upon the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, and perform loving kindness to thousands [of generations], to those who love Me and to those who keep My commandments." ~ Exodus 20:1-6 "Woe to those who say of the evil that it is good and of the good that it is evil; who present darkness as light and light as darkness, who present bitter as sweet and sweet as bitter." ~Isaiah 5:20 "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt [link to immigrationcounters.com] “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”~ Alexis de Tocqueville “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~ Alexis de Tocqueville I'm voting for Hillary!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] ....... |
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