The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73152982 United States 10/27/2016 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 holy shit, does it ever stop? the internet has been great for us, but it gets depressing to have new evidence continually unveiled that exposes the sickening corruption within TPTB. we are just cattle to them. |
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(OP) User ID: 73219787 United Kingdom 10/27/2016 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 Ill-fated Estonia Ferry used for Weapons Transfers? The day after the Baltic ferry Estonia sank on September 28, 1994, Swedish newspapers reported that a "monster wave" was the likely cause of the ferry's sinking. Since then, the official explanations for Europe's worst maritime disaster since World War II have only gotten "curiouser and curiouser." Disappeared Estonians The mystery of the sinking of Estonia, however, has affected some more than others. While survivors recovered and the relatives and friends of those lost at sea mourned, a third group was left completely in limbo, where it is to this day. To this third group belong a dozen, or more, Estonian crew members who were originally reported as having been rescued, only to have mysteriously disappeared in the days following the disaster. The disappearance of these 12 Estonia crew members points to a high-level cover-up of an international intrigue. [link to www.facts-are-facts.com (secure)] Recent revelations in the Swedish press of "enforced disappearances" of two Egyptian "terror suspects" carried out in Sweden in 2001 may shed light on the fate of missing Estonia survivors. It was recently reported in the Swedish media that a private Gulfstream 5 executive jet, registered in the United States, played a role in the "extraordinary rendition" of two Egyptian "terror suspects" from Sweden in 2001. According to Swedish journalist Sven Anér, enforced disappearances from Sweden are nothing new. There is a body of evidence that similar abductions occurred in Sweden in the days following the Estonia ferry disaster. Shortly after Estonia sank, a dozen Estonian crewmembers, all evidently survivors of the catastrophe - disappeared without a trace. Documents indicate that U.S. registered private jets were used in both the 1994 and 2001 disappearance cases. Last Edited by The Gathering Storm on 10/27/2016 09:48 AM |
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User ID: 72284839 Denmark 10/27/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein |
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(OP) User ID: 73219787 United Kingdom 10/27/2016 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 The impossible Sinking of the 'Estonia' The fundamental deficiency of the Final report issued 1997 into the sinking of the 'Estonia' is that it does not explain how and why the ferry actually sank as a result of the published proximate cause of accident - defect locks securing the visor protecting the ramp of the forward opening in the superstructure. The Commission censored the fact that the ferry floated on its undamaged watertight hull according to the principle of buoyancy of Archimedes developed circa 252 BC and that sinking could only have started, when (or if) the hull started to fill up with water. The Commission never explained how the undamaged hull - 14 watertight compartments - were filled with water so that the ferry could sink. The now infamous Final report into the sinking does not mention or investigate watertight integrity, watertight doors, bilge pumps and bilge alarms in the hull preventing sinking. |
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(OP) User ID: 73219787 United Kingdom 10/27/2016 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 Why did NATO do the Estonia? Was Sweden planning to defect from NATO?Was it a warning to potential NATO defectors? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38127748 Sweden isn't in NATO but seems there was at that time a link between Russia and Sweden in the transportation of certain material out of Russia possibly to Iran? |
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(OP) User ID: 73219787 United Kingdom 10/27/2016 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72811082 Estonia 10/27/2016 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 I remember the exact morning of this Estonia disaster day.. I had a chemistry lab class in university, we had to weigh the CO2 gas, if I remember correctly.. lector came in, announced that by radio there was a sad news, ferry ship Estonia has sunk. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72811082 Estonia 10/27/2016 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73277745 You are so afraid of being cucked. Canada - the most afraid military power of the globe. Russians shit their pants when they see Canadian flag flying. Not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73273909 Estonia 10/27/2016 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73277745 In my opinion it's true. The guys in government have gone nuts regarding everything tied to military - investments, calling NATO soldiers to patrol here and also blaming Russia for every movement they make. While US is the real snake this time, their excuse of spreading democracy all over Europe is ridiculous, while everyone actually believe it. Though the problem with Russia/russians is that, they don't give a shit about anything, they ruin architecture, they kill people cold-blooded, they don't care, if they expand on others expense. There are no good choices for Baltics, while The choice of West side would be more beautiful with lots of surveillance and control. under Rus it wouldn't be so beautiful, their culture is a lot different. Americans adoring leader of russia don't know, how their conditions of living would change... |
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(OP) User ID: 73219787 United Kingdom 10/27/2016 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94 Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73277745 In my opinion it's true. The guys in government have gone nuts regarding everything tied to military - investments, calling NATO soldiers to patrol here and also blaming Russia for every movement they make. While US is the real snake this time, their excuse of spreading democracy all over Europe is ridiculous, while everyone actually believe it. Though the problem with Russia/russians is that, they don't give a shit about anything, they ruin architecture, they kill people cold-blooded, they don't care, if they expand on others expense. There are no good choices for Baltics, while The choice of West side would be more beautiful with lots of surveillance and control. under Rus it wouldn't be so beautiful, their culture is a lot different. Americans adoring leader of russia don't know, how their conditions of living would change... Ideal choice for the Baltic states would be independence, with no EU/NATO or Russian interference but having close ties with both sides. Sadly that's not a choice in this world. |