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Israel faces nuclear Holocaust warns Gingrich

Newt Gingrich: Haifa, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem facing mortal Iranian threat, says former US Speaker of the House; emphasizes 'three nuclear weapons are a second Holocaust'

Yaakov Lappin Published: 01.23.07, 19:51

The Israeli people are facing the threat of a nuclear Holocaust, former US Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich warned the Herzliya Conference held by the Institute for Policy and Strategy at IDC Herzliya on Tuesday afternoon. Meanwhile, he said, the United States could lose a few million people or a number of cities to a terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction.

Gingrich, who addressed the conference via satellite from the United States, said he thought Israel's existence was under threat again for the first time in 40 years.

"Israel is in the greatest danger it has been in since 1967. Prior to '67, many wondered if Israel would survive. After '67, Israel seemed military dominant, despite the '73 war. I would say we are (now) back to question of survival," Gingrich said.

He added that the United States could "lose two or three cities to nuclear weapons, or more than a million to biological weapons."

Gingrich added that in such a scenario, "freedom as we know it will disappear, and we will become a much grimmer, much more militarized, dictatorial society."

"Three nuclear weapons are a second Holocaust," Gingrich declared, adding: "People are greatly underestimating how dangerous the world is becoming. I'll repeat it, three nuclear weapons are a second Holocaust. Our enemies are quite explicit in their desire to destroy us. They say it publicly? We are sleepwalking through this process as though it's only a problem of communication," Gingrich said.

The former House speaker expressed concern that the Israeli and American political establishments were not fully equipped to take stock of the current threat level.

"Our enemies are fully as determined as Nazi Germany, and more determined that the Soviets. Our enemies will kill us the first chance they get. There is no rational ability to deny that fact. It's very clear that the problems are larger and more immediate than the political systems in Israel or the US are currently capable of dealing with," said Gingrich.

'Time to come to grips with threat'

"We don't have right language, goals, structure, or operating speed, to defeat our enemies. My hope is that being this candid and direct, I could open a dialogue that will force people to come to grips with how serious this is, how real it is, how much we are threatened. If that fails, at least we will be intellectually prepared for the correct results once we have lost one or more cities," Gingrich added.

He also said "citizens who do not wake up every morning and think about the possible catastrophic civilian casualties are deluding themselves."

"If we knew that tomorrow morning we would lose Haifa, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem, what we would to stop it? If we knew we would tomorrow lose Boston, San Francisco, or Atlanta, what would we do? Today, those threats are probably one, two, five years away? Although you can't be certain when our enemies will break out," he warned.

Earlier, Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said that Islamic jihadism was "the nightmare of this century."

"The war in Lebanon demonstrated that Israel is facing a jihadist threat that runs through Tehran, to Damascus, to Gaza. Hizbullah are not fighting for the coming into being of a Palestinian state, but for the going out of being of the Israeli state," he said.

Romney emphasized that Iran could not be compared to the former Soviet threat, because the Islamic Republic was following a suicidal path. "For all of the Soviets' deep flaws, they were never suicidal. Soviet commitment to national survival was never in question. That assumption cannot be made to an irrational regime (Iran) that celebrates martyrdom," he said.

The former governor called for the utilization of the widespread opposition held by the Iranian people to their own regime, in order to facilitate regime change, while also adding that "the military option remains on the table."

"Iran must be stopped. Iran can be stopped," Romney declared, receiving applause.
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Re: Israel faces nuclear Holocaust - Romney says Iran is not like the old Soviet Union, Iran is suicidal.
Do you subscribe to a Republican bullshit website? Where do you get this tripe?

Of course Iran wants to stop the US and Israel. So does every freedom loving human on the planet who doesn't like economic slavery and being monitored by jackbooted thugs. That group would exclude you, PACNWguy.

When you give an idiot like Bush control of the nuclear button, some of the opposition will be fantical.
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Has anyone noticed PACNWguys onerous and droll presence on this website.

I believe that the question of your relationship with one of the moderators has come up. I don't remember seeing your response.

I think you were asked with whom you had shared favors in order to procure your special status allowing you to post things designed to foement hatred and so much spam.

So what is your answer to this?

And shall I make a copy of my post in order to keep it from being deleted in an attempt to save you from embarassment?
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Article can be found here:

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Has anyone noticed PACNWguys onerous and droll presence on this website.

I believe that the question of your relationship with one of the moderators has come up. I don't remember seeing your response.

I think you were asked with whom you had shared favors in order to procure your special status allowing you to post things designed to foement hatred and so much spam.

So what is your answer to this?

And shall I make a copy of my post in order to keep it from being deleted in an attempt to save you from embarassment?
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TROLL. You should be banned for stalking.
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Re: Israel faces nuclear Holocaust - Romney says Iran is not like the old Soviet Union, Iran is suicidal.
>>>Earlier, Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said that Islamic jihadism was "the nightmare of this century."

"The war in Lebanon demonstrated that Israel is facing a jihadist threat that runs through Tehran, to Damascus, to Gaza. Hizbullah are not fighting for the coming into being of a Palestinian state, but for the going out of being of the Israeli state," he said.<<<

He's right. No denyin' it..
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Re: Israel faces nuclear Holocaust - Romney says Iran is not like the old Soviet Union, Iran is suicidal.
186499, I am going to treat you like a normal human being for a moment, in order to tell you that if they aren't going to ban SPAMMINguy for spamming this forum with posts designed to foement hatred, deviciveness and misdirection along with Grizzled Old Goat and Mathetes, I am in no danger of being banned for having some fun at their expense.
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Re: Israel faces nuclear Holocaust - Romney says Iran is not like the old Soviet Union, Iran is suicidal.
The Zionist state was planted in the Middle East by the West and sooner or later it will vanish.

As did the Crusaders before and the Mongoles etc. etc.

Read history and learn.

Humans live for very short period out of which its impossible to beomce wise.

Nuclear weapons will just aggrevate any war and will hit back at the whole globe.
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Has anyone noticed PACNWguys onerous and droll presence on this website.

I believe that the question of your relationship with one of the moderators has come up. I don't remember seeing your response.

I think you were asked with whom you had shared favors in order to procure your special status allowing you to post things designed to foement hatred and so much spam.

So what is your answer to this?

And shall I make a copy of my post in order to keep it from being deleted in an attempt to save you from embarassment?
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Nincompoop..
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"Has anyone noticed PACNWguys onerous and droll presence on this website.

I believe that the question of your relationship with one of the moderators has come up. I don't remember seeing your response.

I think you were asked with whom you had shared favors in order to procure your special status allowing you to post things designed to foement hatred and so much spam.

So what is your answer to this?

And shall I make a copy of my post in order to keep it from being deleted in an attempt to save you from embarassment?"


I don't know, it looks like a pretty reasonable question to me.

I'd like to know how come he gets to spam and post filth but the rest of us get deleted too.

Surely the OP is not such a coward that he is incapable of responding on his own behalf but must rely on the Eloquence, (I believe that your retort was "nincompoop") of others who come to his rescue.

I'm sure he was reeling from your response GOG.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's fed up with the OP's bile.
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why are we wasting our time talking about Israel? THey are a nuclear sovereign nation. Let them fend for themselves.
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I'd like to know how come he gets to spam and post filth but the rest of us get deleted too.

Surely the OP is not such a coward that he is incapable of responding on his own behalf but must rely on the Eloquence, (I believe that your retort was "nincompoop") of others who come to his rescue.

I'm sure he was reeling from your response GOG.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's fed up with the OP's bile.
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OP posted a NEWS STORY!! Where's the "spam and filth"?

Good God man - what are you on?
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Re: Israel faces nuclear Holocaust - Romney says Iran is not like the old Soviet Union, Iran is suicidal.
Sure thing after all the treats from both the US and Israel if Iran had not any nuclear capability last year I would not be surpised that they got some black market stuff now in their belt, that exactly what everyone would have done.

This strategy to bring someone to attack you by the mean of threats and sanctions rising the tension and in this case religious fanaticism in that country in the hope to get a reason to finally attack them is gettin real old. Really stupid and really absent of any kind of fantasy, is like to readin a old crappy book over and over and over.

What's happening is that the iranian have now understood that if this cabal in command of the world is not removed in time they will be attacked for a reason of for another even fabricated if required like has been in iraq and many other place beforem and obviously they know that they have no other way than to prepare to give them a fight unlike the Iraqi that have been weakened for 10 years and then attacked.

Israel face what? I dont care they really asked for it. But what we face all of us if these people are not removed now, I care.

If Iran was a NO PROBLEM for the WEST they are making sure that IT WILL BECOME A BIG ONE. So they can say YOU SEE??? they are terrorist they bombed you and you where all wrong and we are all right, and from now on we do whatever we feel and when we feel it.


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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").
They had hundreds of nuclear weapons, and no respect for the holiness of the Terra Sancta.

So now I am supposed to shake in my boots because Moslems to whom Al-Quds is sacred, may or may not be pursuing a weapons program?

In 2000, I was sitting in a cafe in the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem, talking to an American businessman who was successful enough to own a million dollar bachelor pad, close to the Kotel. I speculated about the possibility of terrorists smuggling a nuclear device into Israel. My friend looked at me like I was from another planet, and said "Don't you think they're already here?"

One thing that both the Moslems and Torah Jews have in common, that drives the NWO crazy, is we both believe the LORD is bigger than all their armaments.
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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").
They had hundreds of nuclear weapons, and no respect for the holiness of the Terra Sancta.

So now I am supposed to shake in my boots because Moslems to whom Al-Quds is sacred, may or may not be pursuing a weapons program?

In 2000, I was sitting in a cafe in the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem, talking to an American businessman who was successful enough to own a million dollar bachelor pad, close to the Kotel. I speculated about the possibility of terrorists smuggling a nuclear device into Israel. My friend looked at me like I was from another planet, and said "Don't you think they're already here?"

One thing that both the Moslems and Torah Jews have in common, that drives the NWO crazy, is we both believe the LORD is bigger than all their armaments.
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World faces zionist Holocaust - I say Pissrael is not like the Goyim countries, Pissrael is deceptive.
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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").
They had hundreds of nuclear weapons, and no respect for the holiness of the Terra Sancta.

So now I am supposed to shake in my boots because Moslems to whom Al-Quds is sacred, may or may not be pursuing a weapons program?

In 2000, I was sitting in a cafe in the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem, talking to an American businessman who was successful enough to own a million dollar bachelor pad, close to the Kotel. I speculated about the possibility of terrorists smuggling a nuclear device into Israel. My friend looked at me like I was from another planet, and said "Don't you think they're already here?"

One thing that both the Moslems and Torah Jews have in common, that drives the NWO crazy, is we both believe the LORD is bigger than all their armaments.
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Yeah they would not bomb jerusalem but there are many other place that have no interest for them, the US is to far away as usual the real danger if this thing is not resovled peacefully by people that are sane in their mind could end to be a big problem for Europe first of all, that where they have millions of their clandestine immigrate that could be turned from a day to another in human weapons.
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I'd like to know how come he gets to spam and post filth but the rest of us get deleted too.

Surely the OP is not such a coward that he is incapable of responding on his own behalf but must rely on the Eloquence, (I believe that your retort was "nincompoop") of others who come to his rescue.

I'm sure he was reeling from your response GOG.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's fed up with the OP's bile.

OP posted a NEWS STORY!! Where's the "spam and filth"?

Good God man - what are you on?
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lol
The tard probably supports the new "Fairness Doctrine" proposed by the liberals too.
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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").
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I don't know how many Americans read le Carré. Best keep that in mind.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's fed up with the OP's bile.

OP posted a NEWS STORY!! Where's the "spam and filth"?

Good God man - what are you on?
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lol
The tard probably supports the new "Fairness Doctrine" proposed by the liberals too.
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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").


I don't know how many Americans read le Carré. Best keep that in mind.
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I prefer Frederick Forsyth and Robert Ludlum. Though you can find LeCarre at any newsstand here in the states.
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In 1980, the greatest sponsor of terrorism was the atheist Soviet Union. (Remember Carlos "the Jackal").


I don't know how many Americans read le Carré. Best keep that in mind.

I prefer Frederick Forsyth and Robert Ludlum. Though you can find LeCarre at any newsstand here in the states.
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Ludlum is good, The Parsifal Mosaic is my favorite, but le Carré is relevant not fiction.
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Yeah they would not bomb jerusalem but there are many other place that have no interest for them, the US is to far away as usual the real danger if this thing is not resovled peacefully by people that are sane in their mind could end to be a big problem for Europe first of all, that where they have millions of their clandestine immigrate that could be turned from a day to another in human weapons.
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There are two tombs of the Patriarchs located just outside of Tel Aviv. The tomb of Benjamin on the Kfar Saba - Qalqilya road, and the tomb of Simon, on my old kibbutz, Eyal.
Mukhrakah (where Elijah defeated the Priests of Baal) is on Mt. Carmel, and Elijah's cave is in Haifa.
Abraham's well is in Beer Sheba.
There is almost no place in Israel where the Moslem Saviour, "Issa Messi, Son of Miriam, Word of God" didn't walk.
The whole land is sacred to Moslems, Christians, and Jews.

The Israeli slang for a place in the middle of the sticks, is "Tizah Nebi" (Arabic for Prophet's Ass) because there is no place in the whole land where some Moslem prophet never rested his butt.
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Israel faces nuclear Holocaust warns Gingrich


Gingrich added that in such a scenario, "freedom as we know it will disappear, and we will become a much grimmer, much more militarized, dictatorial society."

...

He also said "citizens who do not wake up every morning and think about the possible catastrophic civilian casualties are deluding themselves."

"If we knew that tomorrow morning we would lose Haifa, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem, what we would to stop it? If we knew we would tomorrow lose Boston, San Francisco, or Atlanta, what would we do? Today, those threats are probably one, two, five years away? Although you can't be certain when our enemies will break out," he warned.

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