christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah

Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.

oh, yes, definitely Mike Brown… YUUUGE truther…

part of a growing movement of Jews who recognize the truth: Jesus is the Messiah.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf, one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived:

"Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in every variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard."

"After six years given to the impartial investigation of Christianity as to its truth or falsity, I have come to the deliberate conclusion that Jesus Christ was the Messiah of the Jews, the Savior of the world and my own personal Redeemer." -- General Lew Wallace, one-time atheist, military general and literary genius, who along with Robert Ingersoll agreed together they would write a book that would forever destroy the myth of Christianity. Mr. Wallace studied for two years in the leading libraries of Europe and America for information to destroy Christianity. While writing the second chapter of his book, he suddenly found himself on his knees, crying out, "My Lord and my God." The evidence was overwhelmingly conclusive. Later, Wallace wrote "Ben Hur" one of the greatest Christian novels.
~ General Lew Wallace

But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )

you mean this dude:

Dr. Brown Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer For A Debate

The only Jews he's tricking are the unlearned .

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Psalm 2.9)

I wouldn't debate him because he's ignorant and he's got a shit eating smile

I imagine tovia won't debate him because if you debate a fool sometimes you look a fool besides he debated him 2 what's the needs for more he schooled him 2 times already

not quite, bro


youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB

sorry: weak argument, bra

Sad that you have been this deceived by demonic influence!

Your opinion is useless . Mine is valid , I used a verse from proverbs and a analogy from fighting , if you win 2 in a row you don't get a rubber match .

2 very solid very strong arguments

You do know that the Bible has been rewritten, rearranged etc. only for you, to spell out a specific doctrine that you need to abide by and all you silly Christians just eat it up. You are like Oh Jesus said this or that but how do you know? You only know because you read it in a book, edited and arranged to make you believe one way by certain someone. Not naive at all hehe.

Well said! Amen!

The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?

Claim: FOY, you have had homosexual relations.

:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?

No never , who claims such lies?

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You laxity suggests this.

Here we go again...Abrahamaic faiths bickering amongst each other instead of seeing the bigger picture. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and yet as a Muslim I do not believe that he is God incarnate but does these debates really matter at the present time ? As believers in the God of Abraham there are matters that are much more urgent such as protecting the sanctity of the family, countering the secular materialistic agenda, finsing innovative ways to provide for people starving around the globe, getting our youth interested in spirituality instead of being mere consumers...I am not telling you to accept the other's belief as true but can't you all just find a common ground and try to fix the World before it is to late ?

Can you be more specific with some of the scriptures he will fulfill?

You Algerian? I'm Tunisian.

Allah isn't the god of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob.
Allah doesn't mean "the God", that would be "al-ilah".

Israel needs to think, what if he is?

Nope neither Algerian nor Tunisian nor North African or any of your assumptions based on the fact that I am currently in France. As for your statements, I will not correct your claim that are linguistically wrong as I have said there are more important matters than childish bickering.

I'm lax on a lot of things but not homosexual things . it seems to my knowledge that's condemned as an abomination in the Torah .

But even if it wasn't condenmed like before I was even religious it always grossed me out. That's me , I only Like Women sexually

I read and speak Arabic. Allah has no meaning whatsoever in Arabic. The god is rendered as al-Ilah not as Allah.

To be honest the Best thing I can do for you is Direct you To Tenak talk On YouTube , there is hour after hour of Rabbi's going over this in detail .

It would also help you to know the Things Jesus Supposedly fulfilled are mostly contrived or applied after the fact

Give a prophet, I show you where is Jesus in it.

(I apologize for having suspected laxity-related homosexuality on your part).

I forgive you .

Obadiah