No one has ever seen God, and no one has ever seen anything "evolve"- both take faith, which take the greater faith?

Wrong. Evolution is directly observable. How else wpuld you explain the sudden existince of 'super bugs', aka antibiotic resistant diseaaes that used to be treated quite easily with common antibiotics? Sure smells like evolution to me.

Wrong. Evolution is directly observable. How else wpuld you explain the sudden existince of 'super bugs', aka antibiotic resistant diseaaes that used to be treated quite easily with common antibiotics? Sure smells like evolution to me.

no one has ever seen god because he is an alien spirit being, that doesn't belong in this dimension ... but he has found access to the Human mind system and "speaks" to a very select few of them that have been genetically altered to "hear" him

the words you have quoted above are altered ... Jesus never claimed "god" was his "father" - the Romans promoted that idea to validate their claim as "gods" - Jesus was a human, because spirit beings and physical humans are not the same species - and not compatiable ... as designed by OUR Creator - to keep other "older species" from taking advantage of the younger ones ... like god did

If the entity that you worship as god, was our Creator, then he would keep his own commandments and the Supreme law of the Universe - which is "do unto others ...." which he most certainly doesn't ... but instead uses your "blind faith" to serve himself... and make sure that HIS WILL is done - exclusively, even though we were all given Free Will by our creator...

Well, since evolution is directly observable, belief in a god takes faith. The other does not.

Here is but one example of Jesus calling God his Father


"Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will."- Matthew 7:21

Is there a point to this?

Back in the day, when we all in Heaven, there was one who spoke for God, for even there, we weren't sure he existed.

Lucifer had the role to speak for God, the chosen one, the Light Bringer, bringing the knowledge of God to us at the time when were as the angels in Heaven.

Lucifer rebelled against God's word, and then started speaking against him. And he desired to be all powerful, and even above God himself.

So he started to lie and deceive us, and now us lot on Earth are the fallen that decided to believe and follow Lucifer.

We who were cast out, 1/3rd of us, and eventually ended up here, in Lucifer's creation.


He plays the role of God here. Or LORD God as he likes to be called.

Where does that story come from?

Moses hung with God and made him pearly white!

Sudden existence is far from something that evolves...no?

No one has ever seen god because creatures from fairy tales don't exist!

Put your brainwashing behind you and grow up FFS!

It absolutely takes greater faith to believe that all this happened randomly, with no intelligent design, all just one big accident out of nothing and nowhere........because that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's not logical at all.

And yet, millions still believe it......because they are in rebellion to God.

As for evolution...

The evolution of the peppered moth is an evolutionary instance of colour variation in the moth population as a consequence of the Industrial Revolution. The concept refers to an increase in the number of dark-coloured moths due to industrial pollution, and a reciprocal decrease in the population in a clean environment. Hence, the phenomenon is called industrial melanism. It is the first recorded and experimented case of Charles Darwin's natural selection in action, and remains as a classic example in the teaching of evolution.[1][2] Sewall Wright described it as "the clearest case in which a conspicuous evolutionary process has actually been observed."[3] (from Wikipedia)

Yeah, I cant just say I believe for the sake of believing, I have to be honest myself and say that I don't believe, how troubling would it be for my mind if I went around saying I believed and I really didn't ?

Life cannot come from non life...here is one of my favorite scriptures to back your comment:

"For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened."- Romans 1:18-21

exactly, life came billions of years ago from a sun beating down on a wet rock, creating a living slime, and then a huge evolution process after that, from fish to walking fish like beings and you get the picture.

Where did the sun come from? And a rock?

it is sidereal

Show where evolution is observable

You can feel God's presence. Can't do that with evolution.

In the Vatican and her Prot children,
I see perfect fulfillment of Rev 17&18 confirming truth of Jesus and NT.
[ask me for point by point compilation of the fulfillment]
Millions for centuries have seen the fulfillment.
It was a major battle cry of the Reformation which took the world out from under the thumb of the Vatican/Pope. At least for a while.

Along with millions,
I see perfect fulfillment of OT prediction Israel would be dispersed and re-gathered.
And AWAIT the Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 12-14, Joel 3, Psalms 83, Isaiah 17 predicted invasion of Israel. Most on earth today will see [TV and internet] this invasion.
[invaders will be annihilated, btw]

Along with millions for centuries,
I see the awesome pro-GodoftheBible impact Jesus had/as on the world.
I see that Jesus perfectly fulfilled OT Messiah prediction [like Isaiah 53].

And AWAIT the Revelation 13 revealed world amazing reappearance of the final "beast".
[will be JFK, btw, with Kissinger as his "right hand man"]
This will occur after the invasion of Israel.
Most living on earth today will see this world amazing reappearance.
Only my contention of specifically JFK and HK is not shared by millions.

Along with millions for centuries,
I see life around us is far too complex and organized to have come into being by sheer time and chance.

Preceding are some reasons that along with millions for centuries,
I know Jesus Christ is alive with power.

But the above did not cause me to come to believe in Jesus.
I initially came to believe [40 years ago] when I finally realized I needed help and asked Him

“if you are alive, please help me” And He helped me.

[link to www.mosquitonet.com]

"Evolution" requires believing in the god of "random mutation" as the driver behind creation. This is borderline retarded, frankly.

I believe in intelligence. Faith is natural. Of course there is a God. Evolution is a pathetic lie to keep people dumb and enslaved.

some may say...to grow is to evolve...evolution has its preference good or bad...one has a chance to enhance one own ability ...with repetitive persistence...laws of the universe up hold evolution as ...being able to...God is evolution and truth ...lol

There is intelligent design in everything from microscopic to the universe

For "evolution" to be obsevable, we humans would have to live 1 million years more.

Then people would say.. this is BS.

In other words:

Evolution cannot be observed, everybody knows that evolution CANNOT be observed since it takes "qaudruple" years to EVOLVE.

It is TOTAL BS.

If it cannot be observed it is NOT SCIENCE.

1 Corinthians 14:34 [Full Chapter]
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.