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Gods MASTER PLAN for the VAST MAJORITY of all mankind.....ETERNAL TORTURE.

 
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62758983




Oh, wonderful.

The rabid Ozturd strikes again.

The Lake of Fire was created for the devil and his angels. But if you choose to follow them, instead of Christ, then you will have your own part in the Lake of Fire, as well.

If you choose to misrepresent God and His character, you will be aligning yourself with the devil, and sharing in his fate.

The wages of sin is DEATH, not eternal life in torment. The bible says that there will be nothing left but ash. And the wicked will be as if they never were. It is only the SMOKE of their torment, that rises up forever and ever.

The bible warns of eternal punishMENT, which is death. Not eternal punishING.

People like you are responsible for turning others against God and you will be held accountable. I assure you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72862206


This is what christians teach.

Every word of it..and i also notice you agree because you never deny it. So its your own doctrine that you teach that turns people away from god.

As you judge so shall you be judged.

You have just curse yourself.
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Fortunately that is a false god and a false religion. I am at peace knowing that the afterlife is a place of eternal progression and advancement, not an eternal torture chamber.
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62758983




Oh, wonderful.

The rabid Ozturd strikes again.

The Lake of Fire was created for the devil and his angels. But if you choose to follow them, instead of Christ, then you will have your own part in the Lake of Fire, as well.

If you choose to misrepresent God and His character, you will be aligning yourself with the devil, and sharing in his fate.

The wages of sin is DEATH, not eternal life in torment. The bible says that there will be nothing left but ash. And the wicked will be as if they never were. It is only the SMOKE of their torment, that rises up forever and ever.

The bible warns of eternal punishMENT, which is death. Not eternal punishING.

People like you are responsible for turning others against God and you will be held accountable. I assure you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72862206


This is what christians teach.

Every word of it..and i also notice you agree because you never deny it. So its your own doctrine that you teach that turns people away from god.

As you judge so shall you be judged.

You have just curse yourself.
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Those who are curse is mocking God and telling people lies
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Idk about all of that, but I'm an evil wicked person who deserves judgement!

I can't believe I couldn't follow simple rules! I let evil lust and wicked daydreaming detach me from GOD!
I can't take enough showers to wash away the utter shame I feel.
I have such an addictive attitude and such a lazy way about myself that it's no wonder I've never been gifted at anything. Another irredeemable fool. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I had a rough upbringing. I was beaten a lot, with a belt, extension cord or whatever. And other things too! Things I'm just now thinking of - I never wanted to admit it, but mutual molestatiin happened between family member when 8. This what made bad sexual activity, disgusting sexual activity, in later years seem fine to me.

As I'm seeing I'm done, and completely set for Hell, I am looking back on my life with complete disgust. What a filthy, vile woman I am. This is evident by my barren-ness. I spent so much time opening my legs for any and have nothing to show for it except an invisible golden ticket to the abyss!

I'm so scared. I'd call out for Jesus, but this will never work.
Other people were having sex, too! They made it seem normal and American culture downplayed Hell and God.
Plus what about people who are just not as smart as everyone else? Or not as strong?

Something that is said to be medical happened to me when I was younger, and I asked for help, but was yelled at and told I was causing the issue.
Anyway, Im at least owning some of my issues.
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If you come with me everything will be fine. I promise.
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Idk about all of that, but I'm an evil wicked person who deserves judgement!

I can't believe I couldn't follow simple rules! I let evil lust and wicked daydreaming detach me from GOD!
I can't take enough showers to wash away the utter shame I feel.
I have such an addictive attitude and such a lazy way about myself that it's no wonder I've never been gifted at anything. Another irredeemable fool. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I had a rough upbringing. I was beaten a lot, with a belt, extension cord or whatever. And other things too! Things I'm just now thinking of - I never wanted to admit it, but mutual molestatiin happened between family member when 8. This what made bad sexual activity, disgusting sexual activity, in later years seem fine to me.

As I'm seeing I'm done, and completely set for Hell, I am looking back on my life with complete disgust. What a filthy, vile woman I am. This is evident by my barren-ness. I spent so much time opening my legs for any and have nothing to show for it except an invisible golden ticket to the abyss!

I'm so scared. I'd call out for Jesus, but this will never work.
Other people were having sex, too! They made it seem normal and American culture downplayed Hell and God.
Plus what about people who are just not as smart as everyone else? Or not as strong?

Something that is said to be medical happened to me when I was younger, and I asked for help, but was yelled at and told I was causing the issue.
Anyway, Im at least owning some of my issues.
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Give all the pain from your experiences to Jesus and call out to him with a contrite heart. Forgive all ..... he will hear you and change your heart. This happen to me and life is better
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62758983


And what is your point? Do you think someone like you who sins everyday is more just or righteous than God?

If you made up your mind to go to hell then go, but do not drag others down with you, just like Satan is doing with you.

God gave you a way out. Not only you but anyone and everyone who would believe in His Son Jesus Christ.

You don't like His method? Than your someone to truly pity.

Believe and trust in Jesus Christ, God's Son, Creator in the flesh. Trust in His righteousness and not yours, because you WILL end up in eternal fire if you reject Him and face God's judgement on your own merits.

God is not mocked, nor does your useless ranting have any affect on your future judgement.

In Jesus Christ
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Have read the bible from cover to finish, once. Never found hell in it. There's a parable that could be mistaken for it, but the bible does mention the "Second Death" in the "Lake of Fire." That just means the end for you, you are no more, you do not exist. That is not eternal torture in a fiery pit. Hell is a creation of the churches to scare the shit out of church-goers.

And my wife grew up Catholic, going to a Catholic school and all, a lot of her family were Catholic priests, and they're all alcoholics. The best part is, I've never been to a Catholic church in my life, but according to her, they don't encourage their people to actually read the bible. I laugh at this... of course you don't want them to read the book, they might actually figure some things out for themselves. Pretty much up there with the old times when kings outlawed peasants learning to read, because an educated peasant is a dangerous peasant, right?
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Don't worry now they have to worship you.
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I appreciate your efforts, OP :)
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Have read the bible from cover to finish, once. Never found hell in it. There's a parable that could be mistaken for it, but the bible does mention the "Second Death" in the "Lake of Fire." That just means the end for you, you are no more, you do not exist. That is not eternal torture in a fiery pit. Hell is a creation of the churches to scare the shit out of church-goers.

And my wife grew up Catholic, going to a Catholic school and all, a lot of her family were Catholic priests, and they're all alcoholics. The best part is, I've never been to a Catholic church in my life, but according to her, they don't encourage their people to actually read the bible. I laugh at this... of course you don't want them to read the book, they might actually figure some things out for themselves. Pretty much up there with the old times when kings outlawed peasants learning to read, because an educated peasant is a dangerous peasant, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70435686


Woe to the blasphemer who knowingly lies about the Word of God, for indeed you will drink the full cup of His wrath.

You do not deceive only yourselves but knowingly deceive others from God's written Word as it is written in the Bible.

Woe indeed to you this very day. Let it be known how dire it is to lie about God's Word and let the Fear of the Lord go forth into every heart of mankind.

In Jesus Christ
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Why stop now?
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By disgusting sexual behavior I don't mean pedophilia, but adult Babylonian porn and frequent hook ups with men.
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OP,
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I can see how someone could come to the conclusions you came too. One of the points I don't agree with is that God is sending so many people to hell. Like one poster pointed out hell was made for the Angels, not humans. Humans who reject God will cease to exist, I.e. Not live any longer.

An example is given in the bible of a "bad" person being forgiven and saved from death and brought to heaven. This is of course the thief dying on the cross. He was saved because he genuinely felt remorse for his sins and asked God to remember/ forgive him. See, we don't Experience eternal death because we sin, we experience eternal death because we don't turn to Christ.

So, what did Jesus tell us? He is the way, the truth, and the life. Whoever believes in him will be saved.

Now, this passage is often misunderstood especially from Baptists. It DOES NOT MEAN If you believe in Jesus you are saved! Heck, even Satan believes in Jesus. Jesus did not want to be worshiped like an earthly King. He was very clear about this. Yet, the baptist want to worship Jesus like He is a worldly King.

Jesus also said who is my mother? The one who does the will of my father in heaven is my family! Wow! Do you know what that means?

It means you except Jesus by doing what He did and living as He lived. And how did Jesus live? By loving His fellow man and forgiving them as He wished to be treated.

Don't let people who only study the current version of the bible mislead you. At one time the book of Enoch was in the bible but was out now. Even Jesus referenced this book. Yet, today's Christians don't accept. One cannot understand the Old Testiment without understanding the book of Enoch.

Therefore it's not complicated just as Jesus told us when He said " You must have the faith of a child". You either love others and treat them fairly as you wish to be treated or you just care about yourself and ignore other people's needs.

Now, I know many will disagree with this but I'm confident they are wrong.

Finally to the woman who thinks she is unredeemable. Jesus loves you just the way you are honey. Just ask Him for forgiveness tonight and He will forgive you if you mean it. You don't need any fancy prayer. Just talk to Him like you would a loving person.

Peace.
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God hates haters.
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus hung out with the sinners because they needed his help. You're against all his teachings.
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Do you get off on telling everyone they are going to hell? Do you feel like you're above everyone else and the only one who will be saved?
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Humans who reject God will cease to exist
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Any apparent "rejection" is only temporary. . .Ultimately, every knee will bow and every tongue confess Christ as Lord, to the glory of the Father.

OP is simply presenting the only logical conclusions one can reach based on what xtianity preaches. Fortunately, there'll be a wildly different outcome than His own fanclub is expecting. He's not going to have to cook anyone, having denounced such an act as an *abomination* (Jeremiah 7, 19 & 32). He Himself is the fire (Deuteronomy 4 -> Hebrews 12) which He applies for purification .
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It would be best if you tried to convert a few who are open minded then bashing them. That way you're not a hypocrite.
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All man has sinned and falls short of the glory of God. That's why he gave you an out. Jesus Christ!
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God is eternal. There is no "temporary" with Him.

When God said:

Revelation 14:11

And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name."


That is a literal warning and message from the Word of God. Let there be no mistake that their torment will be FOREVER, which LITERALLY means it will not end.

Anyone who presents a different message than from the Word of God is in great WOE and in danger of the fires of hell for they lead men astray from God's true Word.

You have been warned many many times and you do not heed this warning.

Remember it is still not too late, but that Hour is about to enter.

In Jesus Christ.
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of course you don't want them to read the book, they might actually figure some things out for themselves.

Of course you protestants have it figured out, that is why you have tens of thousands of different liars all contradicting each other.

You couldn't even agree on wether baptism is necessary, but yet call catholics "ignorant".

putin
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of course you don't want them to read the book, they might actually figure some things out for themselves.
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Of course you protestants have it figured out, that is why you have tens of thousands of different liars all contradicting each other.

You couldn't even agree on wether baptism is necessary, but yet call catholics "ignorant".

putin


There is only one translation and one Word of God that is the Bible.

Is the Word of God at fault for a person's lack in understanding the literal Word of God?

What exactly is baptism to you Catholics? Do you not extort money from people saying that they could pay enough to get people into heaven?

Do you not blaspheme the Holy Word of God by saying that a priest is an intercessor rather than Jesus Christ who is the ONLY intercessor?

You call the pope a "father" yet there is only ONE Father that is in heaven.

Woe the lie that is the Catholic church for they will be swallowed up in it's entirety in ONE HOUR.

Woe to the swine that rise from the pits of the mud to spew their filth onto living water.

For theirs shall be the fire to roast in.

The Word is given to all sinners but if the sinner will not repent what is the point of pouring living water in a vessel whose hole grows larger? Will it just not pour out?

Therefore, the Word is given to all sinners but only to those that HEED AND REPENT are they saved.

In Jesus Christ.
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OP,
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I can see how someone could come to the conclusions you came too. One of the points I don't agree with is that God is sending so many people to hell. Like one poster pointed out hell was made for the Angels, not humans. Humans who reject God will cease to exist, I.e. Not live any longer.
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Evil human will cease to exist is a sign you're dealing with Jehovah's Witness. JWs form their own version of utopia and claim theirs is the truest utopia all without proof, the same as Christians who believe in their version of second coming and rapture.

Every group of these believe-without-proof hordes, will claim to know the truth about the future (of the universe and human) more than anyone else. So typical.

Even after the JW watchtower, the only supposed God's mouth piece on earth made repeated prediction failures of the coming utopia in 1914, 1925 and 1975, they would still keep claiming their version of doctrine is the truest of all, the same as all those prophet wannabes in GLP who keep making failed prophecies.

Debating these kind of people is a wasteful endeavor. Watching them debating, it's all about one's unproven belief against another unproven belief. Only one thing that's certain, all of them refuse to admit their version of belief are unproven especially about the future even after making multiple failed predictions.

If their beliefs are so true, they can certainly tell what will happen one year from now, well, if they really know it all. But I bet deep inside, they know they don't know, but when the topic of eschatology of the future according to the bible comes up, they're all suddenly the omniscient experts.
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus hung out with the sinners because they needed his help. You're against all his teachings.
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What is casting stone? Judging, right? So what are you doing when you said "you're against all his teachings"? Judging, right? So, you're casting stone also, right?
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God is eternal. There is no "temporary" with Him.
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I'll try to simplify this for you: men can revolt, resist or reject God as they may, but they will not do so indefinitely - there will come a time when they willingly declare Christ as Lord.

Revelation 14:11

And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name."


That is a literal warning and message from the Word of God. Let there be no mistake that their torment will be FOREVER, which LITERALLY means it will not end.
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This is not what the Greek says, however. If we're genuinely interested in the detailed specifics God has written to us, it may be worth considering doing the homework instead of sticking with the leavened status quo.

Secondly, this scene parallels the illustrative sacrifices of the old testament which issued a "pleasing savor" to God - it represents "the flesh" being dealt with.

Anyone who presents a different message than from the Word of God is in great WOE and in danger of the fires of hell for they lead men astray from God's true Word.
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Such as the message that the Lamb of God takes away the sin of the world? Church Inc. does not believe nor preach this, instead convinced that people's sin will ultimatelt thwart God's stated will that all come to salvation.

Christ Jesus has all authority in heaven & earth, but xtians don't believe this, either. Neither do they believe that every creature everywhere will praise Him according to Revelation 5, nor that all will be reconciled according to Colossians 1, nor that the ends of the earth will remember and turn to Him per Psalm 22. No sweat, though.


You have been warned many many times and you do not heed this warning.
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If you're referring to me specifically, I tell you time and again that Jesus Christ is my Redeemer and I couldn't live without Him. You don't believe me, though, because you're hacked off that I don't buy your scary pagan Hell, which is the central axis of your entire worldview - not the Cross, or the Resurrection, and not His love in which His remedy is rooted. No sweat, though.
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Is the Word of God at fault for a person's lack in understanding the literal Word of God?
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In Exodus 4, God Himself takes credit for people's blindness and deafness
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What is your argument with The Almighty?

Has He not made every provision for you?

God wants thankful hearts to love Him forever,

not always complaining ingrates.

You get to pick your side.
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Idk about all of that, but I'm an evil wicked person who deserves judgement!

I can't believe I couldn't follow simple rules! I let evil lust and wicked daydreaming detach me from GOD!
I can't take enough showers to wash away the utter shame I feel.
I have such an addictive attitude and such a lazy way about myself that it's no wonder I've never been gifted at anything. Another irredeemable fool. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I had a rough upbringing. I was beaten a lot, with a belt, extension cord or whatever. And other things too! Things I'm just now thinking of - I never wanted to admit it, but mutual molestatiin happened between family member when 8. This what made bad sexual activity, disgusting sexual activity, in later years seem fine to me.

As I'm seeing I'm done, and completely set for Hell, I am looking back on my life with complete disgust. What a filthy, vile woman I am. This is evident by my barren-ness. I spent so much time opening my legs for any and have nothing to show for it except an invisible golden ticket to the abyss!

I'm so scared. I'd call out for Jesus, but this will never work.
Other people were having sex, too! They made it seem normal and American culture downplayed Hell and God.
Plus what about people who are just not as smart as everyone else? Or not as strong?

Something that is said to be medical happened to me when I was younger, and I asked for help, but was yelled at and told I was causing the issue.
Anyway, Im at least owning some of my issues.
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And because you are a normal human who has done normal human things in a normal human world you think God somehow does not understand your dilemma or care one whit about your remorse and plans to torture you forever even after he said his mercy endures forever and his love never fails?

how can he contradict himself OR lie?

He luvs ya..as ya are..and he does take note of your remorse.

Just trust him...he has your life planned out.

How can ya reach others at the bottom of the barrel if you have zero experience in being there?

Only someone who knows sin can reach a sinner.
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Nah.
Mankind has freewill.
You choose to hate God and your silly arguments wouldn't even hold up in court on Earth much less the eternal judgment you, me all men and even angels will partake.
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Free will?

Since when?

Who was it that planted the tree of good n evil in the garden?

God did.

Who was it that allowed the snake in?

God did.

Who made sure they were absent when the serpent tempted and decieved eve?

God did.

Who was it that used a mighty sword and two strong angels to guard the entrance of the garden from two miserable humans...but funnily enough neglected such stringent security in order to let the most powerful evil being ever INTO the garden?

God did.

Who formed you in the womb and chose your parents and date and time in history..what religion you would be raised with etc?

God did.

Who sets your span of life and knows ever day you will live?

God does.

So...who has to bend over and take it up the rear and love it as a result of all gods foreplanning and strategy?

Man does.

Who has free will?

God does..he chose everything in advance.

Man has NO SAY in anything.
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