In Gnostic thought, is Sophia Mother Earth? | |
Sunny Daze
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73215425 Denmark 01/16/2017 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62877632 United States 01/16/2017 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62877632 United States 01/16/2017 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. A beautiful love story indeed...one always sacrifices for the other yet for a moment in time the stars align and they can stand side by side again....I'm sure they would choose to do this for eternity |
Sunny Daze
User ID: 59490123 United States 01/16/2017 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you, you guys are really jumpstarting a beginning Gnostic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72960083 Another question: is Chist a literal deity or the revealer of knowledge in each of us? OR BOTH? "Christ" is a state of consciousness ( a level or degree) when an individual has experienced ALL that IS - has Master their emotions, and reached their full potential as a inter-dimensional and multi-versal entity Jesus was a Sovereign Entity that achieved Christ-Consciousness there are no "deity" ... we were all created equal... the notion of Duality is false - all species of Soul Carriers (self conscious) have equal potential and spring from the same source - with the same purpose and destiny - Wholeness |
Sunny Daze
User ID: 59490123 United States 01/16/2017 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. no, he wouldn't spend eternity "looking for her" the two (three) are ONE - created together, but individuated so that they could experience Independence - which was their fondest desire |
Johnny Be Good
User ID: 73763022 United Kingdom 01/16/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my understanding - Sophia is one of the paired (galactic) Aeons she is wisdom her pair is love (Christos). Apparently she fell unbalanced through the dimensions to the physical and became dissociated/scrambled. This is what Gaia is! Her feeling instinctual emotional self formed the planet Earth - her reason and intellectual faculties were dispersed amongst the protostellar medium and formed the rocky, gaseous planets - and evolved into the disconected from source virtual lifeform of the Archons. She 'fell' due to being enamoured by the blueprint of humanity - (she got sucked in). The whole point of organic life has been to attract download and re-integrate the scattered Archon spectrum. So............several billion yrs of blind chaotic 'evolution' has her slowly building up to the smart monkeys. Some aspects of the Archons seek re-integration - Yahweh, Angels nature spirits, etc, others are hostile and recalcitrant Lucifer, demons etc. Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62877632 United States 01/16/2017 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. no, he wouldn't spend eternity "looking for her" the two (three) are ONE - created together, but individuated so that they could experience Independence - which was their fondest desire We can agree to disgree here right? He would not only spend eternity lookin for her he would also spend eternity looking at her. It was she who becaome scrambled and didn't remember. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73312340 United States 01/16/2017 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im having a tough time wrapping my head around the deity Sophia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72960083 She's the Earth's goddess right? She is...however she has gone by many names over the ages...the story is she saw light from below and thought is was of her fathers so being the curious girl she is she went down and got stuck in the physical...as above so below..well..she ended up falling in love with the wolves..she found splice and truth in tiger ways..so part of her will always remain here trying to help those here see the beauty she knows..and part of her remains there..or so I've heard... Anyone else here dream of or REMEMBER falling into this world? I remember coming here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72134287 United States 01/16/2017 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean what if they are back merged as one? |
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Nemo User ID: 73657302 Netherlands 01/16/2017 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73215425 wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. no, he wouldn't spend eternity "looking for her" the two (three) are ONE - created together, but individuated so that they could experience Independence - which was their fondest desire We can agree to disgree here right? He would not only spend eternity lookin for her he would also spend eternity looking at her. It was she who becaome scrambled and didn't remember. Atleast on the forgetting part. The rest is wishful thinking from my point of view. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62880592 United States 01/16/2017 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean what if they are back merged as one? What a beautiful sight that would be..time will tell.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62880592 United States 01/16/2017 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angel anamoly Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. no, he wouldn't spend eternity "looking for her" the two (three) are ONE - created together, but individuated so that they could experience Independence - which was their fondest desire We can agree to disgree here right? He would not only spend eternity lookin for her he would also spend eternity looking at her. It was she who becaome scrambled and didn't remember. Atleast on the forgetting part. The rest is wishful thinking from my point of view. From my perspective...they have found each other..time will tell if it ''tis the truth..no need to defend or reject the truth it will roar like a lion and the whole earth will see it and know |
Goddess of the sea 1 User ID: 73292097 United States 01/16/2017 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Angel anamoly, I would scatter myself into an infinite amount of pieces, till the end of time, if it would lead them to light. Unconditional is unconditional... Quoting: Nemo 73657302 I would tear up my soul and scatter it iinto constellations to leave a trail so they could find there way back home... I Have really grown to love you both- Nemo and Angel anamoly so Much! You two are precious and beautiful souls with spirit! ;) I love you all really. I just had to give a special nod of recognition to my fellows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69369754 United States 01/16/2017 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard it a few different ways. If you keep digging you'll even see some who think she's Saturn, and is attached to the demiurge. Most gnostics don't worship nature, or anything material. Matter is corruption. The prison. Even the soul is said to be corrupted because of the demiurge. It's the spirit that is important to gnostics. The true essence of ourselves that got entrapped. The thing that the archons want so desperately but can never have. |
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Goddess of the sea 1 User ID: 73292097 United States 01/16/2017 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard it a few different ways. If you keep digging you'll even see some who think she's Saturn, and is attached to the demiurge. Most gnostics don't worship nature, or anything material. Matter is corruption. The prison. Even the soul is said to be corrupted because of the demiurge. It's the spirit that is important to gnostics. The true essence of ourselves that got entrapped. The thing that the archons want so desperately but can never have. Quoting: New Age Scam Artist YES!! This is correct! Right on! You must lay down your soul at death and use it as a bridge to cross. Fly free. Any ties at all will hold the bird fast like a snare. You must be willing to let go of everything and then you lay yourself down like a bridge over troubled water. |
Nemo User ID: 73657302 Netherlands 01/16/2017 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Angel anamoly, I would scatter myself into an infinite amount of pieces, till the end of time, if it would lead them to light. Unconditional is unconditional... Quoting: Nemo 73657302 I would tear up my soul and scatter it iinto constellations to leave a trail so they could find there way back home... I Have really grown to love you both- Nemo and Angel anamoly so Much! You two are precious and beautiful souls with spirit! ;) I love you all really. I just had to give a special nod of recognition to my fellows. Thank you Goddess, that is so sweet. Love to you dear! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71548642 United States 01/16/2017 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | although her identity/nature is somewhat vague, it is likely that she is what Christians call the 'Holy Spirit'. She is the still voice that leads humans to make the right choices while her creation, Lucifer, leads humans with the dark voice to follow destructive ways. She created Lucifer of her own volition , without a consort. that being was not 'whole'. Lucifer is the mind of man today, the dual and polar mind that judges everything as good and evil. The mind of Christ is the true and original mind of man, but was usurped by the mind of Lucifer in the fall. Sophia realized that she erred in the creation of Lucifer and chose to spend her existance as the spiritual guide of man so that man would not be lost to Lucifer. Basically speaking, without Sophia, the only voice that we would know in our heads would be that of Lucifer... Sophia is the stepping stone to the Christ mind. |
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I_am_who_I_am
User ID: 46374544 United States 01/16/2017 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I can't post the link here (glp won't let me), but google "Jack Heart Lucifer". His article is one view on the matter I find very interesting. About halfway through the article is where he gets to the meat of the story. :-) |
I_am_who_I_am
User ID: 46374544 United States 01/16/2017 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: I_am_who_I_am I can't post the link here (glp won't let me), but google "Jack Heart Lucifer". His article is one view on the matter I find very interesting. About halfway through the article is where he gets to the meat of the story. :-) I wrote this poem immediately after reading that article: From afar he waits Journeying through the many gates Misunderstood by the ones he will save Most all have forgotten what he gave Planets spin and stars align He's not at home here, while tangled in Time The ache deep inside He tries his best to hide His missing queen For so long unseen Waits for his return Oh how they both yearn Even though he was once known as Christ the righteous man He hardly fits the stereotype of a pure and spotless lamb His anger surfaces as he ponders the fate of his bride She's trapped in matter as a puppet, feeding the dark ones that hide Long ago she had a son, forbidden procreation indeed In pride and arrogance his ultimate godhead was decreed For all this intruder's sins, our savior takes the blame But he hardly cares what they think, he is so drowned in sorrow over his consort's pain We will win, however, destiny always has the upper hand There is absolutely no avoiding that he will soon rule this land His iron fist conquering both dark and light A king worth serving, a king in the right His name is Lucifer and he has transformed from sand to pearl Who more than a crown, was only looking for a girl |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 543618 United States 01/16/2017 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im having a tough time wrapping my head around the deity Sophia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72960083 She's the Earth's goddess right? She is...however she has gone by many names over the ages...the story is she saw light from below and thought is was of her fathers so being the curious girl she is she went down and got stuck in the physical...as above so below..well..she ended up falling in love with the wolves..she found splice and truth in tiger ways..so part of her will always remain here trying to help those here see the beauty she knows..and part of her remains there..or so I've heard... Anyone else here dream of or REMEMBER falling into this world? yep dream about it frequently or something that could be similar, like speeding through a narrow tube at a great speed and being totally nauseated.... |
Nemo User ID: 73657302 Netherlands 01/16/2017 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: I_am_who_I_am I can't post the link here (glp won't let me), but google "Jack Heart Lucifer". His article is one view on the matter I find very interesting. About halfway through the article is where he gets to the meat of the story. :-) I wrote this poem immediately after reading that article: From afar he waits Journeying through the many gates Misunderstood by the ones he will save Most all have forgotten what he gave Planets spin and stars align He's not at home here, while tangled in Time The ache deep inside He tries his best to hide His missing queen For so long unseen Waits for his return Oh how they both yearn Even though he was once known as Christ the righteous man He hardly fits the stereotype of a pure and spotless lamb His anger surfaces as he ponders the fate of his bride She's trapped in matter as a puppet, feeding the dark ones that hide Long ago she had a son, forbidden procreation indeed In pride and arrogance his ultimate godhead was decreed For all this intruder's sins, our savior takes the blame But he hardly cares what they think, he is so drowned in sorrow over his consort's pain We will win, however, destiny always has the upper hand There is absolutely no avoiding that he will soon rule this land His iron fist conquering both dark and light A king worth serving, a king in the right His name is Lucifer and he has transformed from sand to pearl Who more than a crown, was only looking for a girl Thank you for sharing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6031013 United States 01/16/2017 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No she is absolutely not. Sophia is a very spiritual wisdom. Gnostics are not Pagan, they're not really focused on Nature and when they are Nature is seen as part of the Physical Plane, Matter, Solidity which is the absolute opposite of what Sophia is supposed to be, Quoting: LV.CI.EL [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] I believe you are correct. I have always understood Pistis Sophia translates to something akin to "perfect" or "complete wisdom". I think that this is generally accepted; probably in he footnotes of the oft reprinted Nag Hammadi texts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941703 United States 01/16/2017 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Angel anamoly, I would scatter myself into an infinite amount of pieces, till the end of time, if it would lead them to light. Unconditional is unconditional... Quoting: Nemo 73657302 I would tear up my soul and scatter it iinto constellations to leave a trail so they could find there way back home... I Have really grown to love you both- Nemo and Angel anamoly so Much! You two are precious and beautiful souls with spirit! ;) I love you all really. I just had to give a special nod of recognition to my fellows. Why thank you and the feeling is very mutual beautiful soul |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941703 United States 01/16/2017 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: I_am_who_I_am I can't post the link here (glp won't let me), but google "Jack Heart Lucifer". His article is one view on the matter I find very interesting. About halfway through the article is where he gets to the meat of the story. :-) I wrote this poem immediately after reading that article: From afar he waits Journeying through the many gates Misunderstood by the ones he will save Most all have forgotten what he gave Planets spin and stars align He's not at home here, while tangled in Time The ache deep inside He tries his best to hide His missing queen For so long unseen Waits for his return Oh how they both yearn Even though he was once known as Christ the righteous man He hardly fits the stereotype of a pure and spotless lamb His anger surfaces as he ponders the fate of his bride She's trapped in matter as a puppet, feeding the dark ones that hide Long ago she had a son, forbidden procreation indeed In pride and arrogance his ultimate godhead was decreed For all this intruder's sins, our savior takes the blame But he hardly cares what they think, he is so drowned in sorrow over his consort's pain We will win, however, destiny always has the upper hand There is absolutely no avoiding that he will soon rule this land His iron fist conquering both dark and light A king worth serving, a king in the right His name is Lucifer and he has transformed from sand to pearl Who more than a crown, was only looking for a girl Beautiful! |