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Is Betsy Devos really THAT bad?
..or are people just bitching to bitch?

Senate Democrats: Betsy DeVos is not qualified to be secretary of education
Massive public opposition to Betsy DeVos is building and Senate Republicans are feeling our pressure. They just delayed DeVos’ confirmation hearing by a week.

We have the momentum, but our work is not done. Congress must keep the U.S. Department of Education out of the hands of DeVos, an extreme right-wing bigot who has no relevant experience as an educator and did not attend or send her children to public school. Can you help us turn up the pressure?

DeVos is a right-wing voucher and charter school activist whose numerous projects include the disastrous effort to spread charters in Detroit, which failed to increase student achievement while allowing charters to operate with little accountability or oversight.1 She also has an appalling record on civil rights, which indicates she will be a threat to LGBTQ children, especially transgender students, who face prejudice, harassment and bullying in schools and suffer from higher rates of depression and suicide than non-LGBTQ classmates.

DeVos’ nomination for secretary of education is unacceptable, but the only way to block her nomination is if Senate Democrats push back with every tool at their disposal. Can you help make sure they act?



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Yeah, she's "bad" in that she supports school choice, wants to close non-performing schools, has donated personal funds to fund scholarships, doesn't like teacher unions.

She's so bad, she's GREAT!
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No she's not. She's fighting the teacher unions bought and paid for democrats.
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Erik Prince's sister. He helped to privatize a large part of military, gave rise to the mercenary class of soldiers, she'll do the same to education... FOR PROFIT.
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woefully underqualified .... ridiculously so
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The status quo tells me that she is awful and horrible. The status quo is very worried about her.
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She's very qualified to do what Trump (and all his voters) want her to do. Fuck the teacher's unions. The educational system is totally fucked, but the teachers/dems don't want anything to change it.
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The status quo tells me that she is awful and horrible. The status quo is very worried about her.
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If the status quo hate her, then she has to be freaking fantastic.
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Erik Prince's sister. He helped to privatize a large part of military, gave rise to the mercenary class of soldiers, she'll do the same to education... FOR PROFIT.
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bullshit

Erik is a brilliant man and saw a niche market and had the skills to fill it, he gets paid well for what he does for a reason
Betsy is also a patriot and wants whats best for our kids, she knows we are getting our asses kicked worldwide and that has to get turned around, she can do it
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Is Betsy Devos really THAT bad?
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No she's not.
BUT....it doesn't matter WHAT these corrupt Libtards think.
They can't stop ANY of Trump's nominees.
All they can do is slow down the process.


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Department of education has been the worst thing that has ever happened to education in the US. Since it was created we have fallen way behind the rest of the world. Erik Prince is a fucking hero, and I think Betsy will do a great job.
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I am in the Public Schools daily - working on equipment.
It's far worse than what you think.
I would no more send my kid to a Public School for an education, than I would send him to a dumpster for a meal.
This isn't just a battle against the NEA.
Like other parts of the Trump agenda, it's about salvaging the Middle Class.
Having Shit Holes for Public Schools doesn't concern the rich......their kids wouldn't be going there anyway.
But for the working class family that can't Home School, it's their only option.
That will change under DeVos.
Just think.....what if we can exponentially increase the number of Ben Carsons that come out of inner city Detroit? All of those kids won't have to "settle" for failure (while teachers' pay & benefits continue to rise).
They are putting out a worse product than they ever have, yet due to their union, they'll still do fine.
Not gonna be that way anymore......there's a new Sheriff in town.
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Actually, most teachers I know, including myself, HATE what school has become. It's a boring indoctrination of BS that makes you an idiot or makes you give up your creativity. At least this is true in FL. Plus, zero parent accountability. I'm hoping that we can make some changes with this Administration. I don't think it's fair to blame the teachers for the system though. I don't live in a state that a strong union either, so I don't know much about that. Betsy DeVos scares me a little. I have family in Michigan, and I hear that didn't go so well.
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Erik Prince's sister. He helped to privatize a large part of military, gave rise to the mercenary class of soldiers, she'll do the same to education... FOR PROFIT.
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bullshit

Erik is a brilliant man and saw a niche market and had the skills to fill it, he gets paid well for what he does for a reason
Betsy is also a patriot and wants whats best for our kids, she knows we are getting our asses kicked worldwide and that has to get turned around, she can do it
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Yeah, she's "bad" in that she supports school choice, wants to close non-performing schools, has donated personal funds to fund scholarships, doesn't like teacher unions.

She's so bad, she's GREAT!
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AND she wants to get rid of Common Core!
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Actually, most teachers I know, including myself, HATE what school has become. It's a boring indoctrination of BS that makes you an idiot or makes you give up your creativity. At least this is true in FL. Plus, zero parent accountability. I'm hoping that we can make some changes with this Administration. I don't think it's fair to blame the teachers for the system though. I don't live in a state that a strong union either, so I don't know much about that. Betsy DeVos scares me a little. I have family in Michigan, and I hear that didn't go so well.
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i live with in 30 minutes of most of the Devos family, and they have done great things for the community, they are good people , christian, help others, are successful.
she will fight to do what is right
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She is qualified enough to stay on page and in addition to the above positive points she will smooth the way to return of State control on issues of local schooling.
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She will destroy public schools.
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She will destroy public schools.
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because they are so great...
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Betsy destroying Bernie Sanders with class:

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woefully underqualified .... ridiculously so
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I agree with this. Watching the video of her yesterday was just horrible. She literally is the worst choice
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woefully underqualified .... ridiculously so
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I agree with this. Watching the video of her yesterday was just horrible. She literally is the worst choice
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I can not believe Erik Prince is her brother.

Dear God she may funnel kids into future mercenary schools and train them to love the state.
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ANYTHING is better than government schools! ANYTHING.
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Privatize schools and make cheaper stupid humans is the plan.



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..or are people just bitching to bitch?

Senate Democrats: Betsy DeVos is not qualified to be secretary of education
Massive public opposition to Betsy DeVos is building and Senate Republicans are feeling our pressure. They just delayed DeVos’ confirmation hearing by a week.

We have the momentum, but our work is not done. Congress must keep the U.S. Department of Education out of the hands of DeVos, an extreme right-wing bigot who has no relevant experience as an educator and did not attend or send her children to public school. Can you help us turn up the pressure?

DeVos is a right-wing voucher and charter school activist whose numerous projects include the disastrous effort to spread charters in Detroit, which failed to increase student achievement while allowing charters to operate with little accountability or oversight.1 She also has an appalling record on civil rights, which indicates she will be a threat to LGBTQ children, especially transgender students, who face prejudice, harassment and bullying in schools and suffer from higher rates of depression and suicide than non-LGBTQ classmates.

DeVos’ nomination for secretary of education is unacceptable, but the only way to block her nomination is if Senate Democrats push back with every tool at their disposal. Can you help make sure they act?



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Privatize schools and make cheaper stupid humans is the plan.



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Name the major city school system that has a track record of excellence. Not one school, but a public school system in a major city that actually works.

I can point to a number of what you'd call "private" schools (we call them charter schools here) that take inner city kids and actually educate them and do it very, very well.

Hell, name ANYTHING that government does better than the private sector.
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I hate to say it but I have a good friend who is very pro-Trump (or maybe was just totally ANTI-Hillary, liberal progressives, etc)... But she is also very involved in educational matters and is a strong anti-common core advocate. It saddens me to say that she *hates* this nomination.
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i live with in 30 minutes of most of the Devos family, and they have done great things for the community, they are good people , christian, help others, are successful.
she will fight to do what is right
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That makes me hopeful. Thanks!
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She is 100% perfect for the job President Trump has asked her to do.





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