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Organ Transplant Is A Money Making Scam ( Prednisone Steroid Destroy Body )

 
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Organ Transplant Is A Money Making Scam ( Prednisone Steroid Destroy Body )
If you have an organ transplant and need to take immune suppressing drugs to prevent the body from rejecting the foreign body part. The "medicine" will destroy you. Their is NO getting around this. Unless your a twin, the body will always reject the organ. You will have to take immunosuppressive drugs for the rest of your shortened lifespan. You WILL be more prone to infections from a suppressed immune system.

Side Effects From Long-Term Use Of Steroids

Side effects that may be caused by the long-term use of steroids include avascular necrosis of bone, osteoporosis, cataracts, and muscle weakness.
Avascular necrosis of bone , usually associated with high doses of prednisone taken over long periods of time, produces pain, an abnormal bone scan, and an atypical X-ray appearance. It occurs most often in the hip, but it can also affect the shoulders, knees, and other joints. Avascular necrosis of bone is quite painful. Relief from pain often requires either a core bone biopsy or total surgical joint replacement.

Steroids cause osteoporosis , or thinning of the bones. Osteoporosis can lead to bone fractures, especially compression fractures of the vertebrae with severe back pain. Calcium and Vitamin D, hormones, calcitonin, nasal spray, bisphosphonates (Actonel, Fosamax) , parathyroid hormone (Forteo), or other medications may help to prevent osteoporosis.

There is also a relationship between steroids and premature arteriosclerosis , which is a narrowing of the blood vessels by fat (cholesterol) deposits.

In general, there is a close relationship between the side effects of steroids and the dose and duration of their use. Thus, a high dose of steroids given over a long period of time is more likely to cause side effects than a lower dosage given over a shorter period of time.
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Some of the more common side effects from prednisone steroids for immune system suppression are:

1. Changes in appearance
* acne
* development of a round or moon-shaped face
* weight gain due to increased appetite
* a redistribution of fat, leading to a swollen face and abdomen, but thin arms and legs
* the skin becoming more fragile, which leads to easy bruising.
2. Psychological problems
* irritability
* agitation
* euphoria or depression
* insomnia.
3. An increase in susceptibility to infections may occur with high doses of steroids.
4. Prednisone may aggravate:
* diabetes
* glaucoma
* high blood pressure
5. Prednisone often increases levels of:
* cholesterol
* triglycerides.
6. Steroids also can suppress growth in children.
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I have had 2 heart transplants. The doctors always tell us the effects of prednisone. That's why doctors do their best to get us patients off the drug as soon as possible.

The good thing about it is that it does stop the little white blood cells from eating my heart. I know from experience that that's what it does. I've stopped taking it in the early stages and been thrown into rejection.

Also realy low doses such as 3 prednisone does not do much harm. It's only the high doses taken for a long period of time that actually does damage.

I've been taking the stuff since I was 6 years old. And would have been off it sooner but I kept going into rejection.
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Oh yes, forgot to mention, transplants aren't scams. Don't talk like it is unless you know someone who has gone through one or you've been through one yourself. I'd be happy to tell you everything I went through with it and break it down for you. I can also tell you the reason for going through it.

I'm 23 now and I've been going through this since I was 6 years old.
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Oh yes, forgot to mention, transplants aren't scams. Don't talk like it is unless you know someone who has gone through one or you've been through one yourself. I'd be happy to tell you everything I went through with it and break it down for you. I can also tell you the reason for going through it.

I'm 23 now and I've been going through this since I was 6 years old.
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You are on your second heart. What is the lifespan of an organ transplanted heart? I know it's an individual thing. But what is its typical lifespan?
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Oh yes, forgot to mention, transplants aren't scams. Don't talk like it is unless you know someone who has gone through one or you've been through one yourself. I'd be happy to tell you everything I went through with it and break it down for you. I can also tell you the reason for going through it.

I'm 23 now and I've been going through this since I was 6 years old.

You are on your second heart. What is the lifespan of an organ transplanted heart? I know it's an individual thing. But what is its typical lifespan?
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When I first recieved my heart my mom was told 10 years was the lifespan on it. And that's how long it lasted for me.

I've known other people who have lasted at most, 25 years on their first heart.

My new heart has lasted almost 7 years so far, but I'm in line for a 3rd heart transplant because this one is starting to fail on me.
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Oh yes, forgot to mention, transplants aren't scams. Don't talk like it is unless you know someone who has gone through one or you've been through one yourself. I'd be happy to tell you everything I went through with it and break it down for you. I can also tell you the reason for going through it.

I'm 23 now and I've been going through this since I was 6 years old.

You are on your second heart. What is the lifespan of an organ transplanted heart? I know it's an individual thing. But what is its typical lifespan?



When I first recieved my heart my mom was told 10 years was the lifespan on it. And that's how long it lasted for me.

I've known other people who have lasted at most, 25 years on their first heart.

My new heart has lasted almost 7 years so far, but I'm in line for a 3rd heart transplant because this one is starting to fail on me.
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Do they fail because its a fine line between to much or not enough immune suppressing drugs?
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Do they fail because its a fine line between to much or not enough immune suppressing drugs?
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First one failed because I had a few months where I thought it was ok to stop taking my medicine because I felt great and could run jump and have fun like any normal kid. I went into grade 4 rejection (worst rejection) and nearly died. I was fine till a year later when because of my rejection, my arteries started to narrow and I needed a stent and my heart started to not beat as well. I was stuck on a heart transplant list and 11 days later I recieved my heart.

In the beginning of a heart transplant there is a battle over balancing the medications so it won't hurt my heart and it won't hurt the rest of my organs either. There are the rejection pills and there are the maintenance pills (which are mostly vitamins anyway) to counteract the effects of the rejections pills.

Doctors will always start out at high doses after a transplant or after a really bad rejection like the grade 4 one. But depending on how the heart is doing, they will slowly taper down the medications and a week after each taper, they will do a biopsy of the heart to make sure the patient isn't in rejection. A year out after the transplant the patient is out of the woods and the meds are at a low lvl and usually just there for maintanance. Doctors will usually slow down on the amount of times they biopsy in a year, and after that first year of the transplant, if the patient is doing everything the doctored ordered, then it's smooth sailing and they can usually do anything a normal person can do.
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If one does not have insurance, how would they pay? Also about what has it cost, up to this time?
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If one does not have insurance, how would they pay?
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The same way you pay for your insurance. With a checkbook.
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If one does not have insurance, how would they pay? Also about what has it cost, up to this time?
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There are many different programs set to help pay for a transplant.

Before a transplant the patient talks to a social worker or the patient's guardians, and the social worker helps to give them options to help pay for the transplant. There are a plethora of organisations and programs out there to help prospective transplantees to be able to recieve a transplant.
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If one does not have insurance, how would they pay? Also about what has it cost, up to this time?


There are many different programs set to help pay for a transplant.

Before a transplant the patient talks to a social worker or the patient's guardians, and the social worker helps to give them options to help pay for the transplant. There are a plethora of organisations and programs out there to help prospective transplantees to be able to recieve a transplant.
 Quoting: SpectrumBlue


SpectrumBlue; with all those years of medical treatment. Any idea the cost of all your treatments, this point in time
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If one does not have insurance, how would they pay? Also about what has it cost, up to this time?


There are many different programs set to help pay for a transplant.

Before a transplant the patient talks to a social worker or the patient's guardians, and the social worker helps to give them options to help pay for the transplant. There are a plethora of organisations and programs out there to help prospective transplantees to be able to recieve a transplant.


SpectrumBlue; with all those years of medical treatment. Any idea the cost of all your treatments, this point in time
 Quoting: RythymRing


Worth it, whatever it was.
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