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User ID: 101239 United States 02/13/2007 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun worshipping babylonian fucktards of the mystery schools and their 1000 pindar penis points of light have mind washed a nation and desensitized human emotion. People expect death now, they expect terror. The mind isn't shure any more which is real and which is Hollywood. |
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User ID: 101239 United States 02/13/2007 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Global warming is a false myth and every serious person and scientist says so." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373Every serious scientist? Name 10 of them. [link to www.sepp.org] 15000 here. The sun worshipping babylonian fucktards of the mystery schools and their 1000 pindar penis points of light have mind washed a nation and desensitized human emotion. People expect death now, they expect terror. The mind isn't shure any more which is real and which is Hollywood. |
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User ID: 101239 United States 02/13/2007 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CARBON TAX! it's ALL about the money baby! The sun worshipping babylonian fucktards of the mystery schools and their 1000 pindar penis points of light have mind washed a nation and desensitized human emotion. People expect death now, they expect terror. The mind isn't shure any more which is real and which is Hollywood. |
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(OP) User ID: 60206 United States 02/13/2007 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Global warming is a false myth and every serious person and scientist says so." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373Every serious scientist? Name 10 of them. Every state in the US has a state climatologist. They are PhD's. None of them have supported Al Gore or endorsed the Global Warming situation. The Climatologist in Oregon is getting fired because he doesnt believe man is responsible. That should be 50 for ya. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 195171 United States 02/13/2007 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this idiot knows more about it than Gore? Why did this goofus even make the headlines? All you ever hear from the antiglobalwarmingists is that Al is wrong. That's it. He's just wrong. No numbers for backup, no explaination. You never hear them try to explain why CO2 levels are now at a level that Earth has not seen in millions of years. |
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User ID: 178884 United States 02/13/2007 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I question it seeing that I'm in Illinois and it snowed about 6-8 inches last night. Global warming is going to really have pick it up or nobody will treat it seriously. I really understand what the manbearpig thing was about now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 195189 United States 02/13/2007 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not manmade, primarily, but it's very real. Compared to the ongoing massive nuclear, chemical and industrial pollution which will destroy all mammalian life on earth in a few decades unless major changes and intervention are undertaken, global warming is not at the top of the list of dangers. [link to www.tmgnow.com] If you check out the link and look at the ongoing changes to the solar system you will understand that what is going on is of a much wider origin than just earth and will result in the end of the current blind stupidity exhibited by man's "governmental leaders" in one manner or another. Somehow, fascists think they will be able to escape the results of insane policies in dealing with pollution. Those with a bit more wisdom and insight know better. English Presentation Sponsored By: THE MILLENNIUM GROUP [link to www.tmgnow.com] January 8, 1998 PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE By DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV* Published in Russian, IICA Transactions, Volume 4, 1997 *Professor of Geology and Mineralogy, and Chief Scientific Member, United Institute of Geology, Geophysics, and Mineralogy, Siberian Department of Russian Academy of Sciences. Expert on Global Ecology, and Fast -Processing Earth Events. Russian to English Translation and Editing: by A. N. Dmitriev, Andrew Tetenov, and Earl L. Crockett Summary Paragraph Current PlanetoPhysical alterations of the Earth are becoming irreversible. Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by highly charged material and energetic non-uniformity's in anisotropic interstellar space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our Solar System. This "donation" of energy is producing hybrid processes and excited energy states in all planets, as well as the Sun. Effects here on Earth are to be found in the acceleration of the magnetic pole shift, in the vertical and horizontal ozone content distribution, and in the increased frequency and magnitude of significant catastrophic climatic events. There is growing probability that we are moving into a rapid temperature instability period similar to the one that took place 10,000 years ago. The adaptive responses of the biosphere, and humanity, to these new conditions may lead to a total global revision of the range of species and life on Earth. It is only through a deep understanding of the fundamental changes taking place in the natural environment surrounding us that politicians, and citizens a like, will be able to achieve balance with the renewing flow of PlanetoPhysical states and processes. INTRODUCTION Current, in process, geological, geophysical, and climatical alterations of the Earth are becoming more, and more, irreversible. At the present time researchers are revealing some of the causes which are leading to a general reorganization of the electro-magnetosphere (the electromagnetic skeleton) of our planet, and of its climatic machinery. A greater number of specialists in climatology, geophysics, planetophysics, and heliophysics are tending towards a cosmic causative sequence version for what is happening. Indeed, events of the last decade give strong evidence of unusually significant heliospheric and planetophysic transformations [1,2]. Given the quality, quantity, and scale of these transformations we may say that: The climatic and biosphere processes here on Earth (through a tightly connected feedback system) are directly impacted by, and linked back to, the general overall transformational processes taking place in our Solar System. We must begin to organize our attention and thinking to understand that climatic changes on Earth are only one part, or link, in a whole chain of events taking place in our Heliosphere. These deep physical processes, these new qualities of our physical and geological environment, will impose special adaptive challenges and requirements for all life forms on Earth. Considering the problems of adaptation our biosphere will have with these new physical conditions on Earth, we need to distinguish the general tendency and nature of the changes. As we will show below,these tendencies may be traced in the direction of planet energy capacity growth (capacitance), which is leading to a highly excited or charged state of some of Earth's systems.The most intense transformations are taking place in the planetary gas-plasma envelopes to which the productive possibilities of our biosphere are timed. Currently this new scenario of excess energy run-off is being formed, and observed: In the ionosphere by plasma generation. In the magnetosphere by magnetic storms. In the atmosphere by cyclones. This high-energy atmospheric phenomena, which was rare in the past, is now becoming more frequent, intense, and changed in its nature. The material composition of the gas-plasma envelope is also being transformed. It is quite natural for the whole biota of the Earth to be subjected to these changing conditions of the electromagnetic field, and to the significant deep alterations of Earth's climatic machinery. These fundamental processes of change create a demand within all of Earth's life organisms for new forms of adaptation. The natural development of these new forms may lead to a total global revision of the range of species, and life, on Earth . New deeper qualities of life itself may come forth, bringing the new physical state of the Earth to an equilibrium with the new organismic possibilities of development, reproduction, and perfection. In this sense it is evident that we are faced with a problem of the adaptation of humanity to this new state of the Earth; new conditions on Earth whose biospheric qualities are varying, and non-uniformly distributed. Therefore the current period of transformation is transient, and the transition of life's representatives to the future may take place only after a deep evaluation of what it will take to comply with these new Earthly biospheric conditions. Each living representative on Earth will be getting a thorough "examination," or "quality control inspection," to determine it's ability to comply with these new conditions.These evolutionary challenges always require effort, or endurance, be it individual organisms, species, or communities. Therefore, it is not only the climate that is becoming new, but we as human beings are experiencing a global change in the vital processes of living organisms, or life itself; which is yet another link in the total process. We cannot treat such things separately, or individually. 1.0 TRANSFORMATION OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM 2.0 THE EARTH REORGANIZATION PROCESSES 3.0 THE ARRIVAL OF NEW CONDITIONS AND CONSEQUENCES CONCLUSION NOTES REFERENCES |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 115051 United Kingdom 02/13/2007 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He's right. Gore is an opportunistic windbag." And your President's a whore to Big Oil. Just like his daddy before him. They're paying scientists to deny global warming so they can keep on selling their dirty fuel. Fact: the USA has 5% of the world's population and produces 25% of its pollutants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 195189 United States 02/13/2007 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least Gore is talking about the issue, but his fascist connections are too strong for him to tell the real truth. Use of the Edwin Gray motor could resolve the carbon issue almost instantly but the fascist pieces of shit that control the government, police and military continue to ensure that the technology remains suppressed. |
PACNWguy
(OP) User ID: 60206 United States 02/13/2007 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and everyone knows the Czech President is an expert on climate change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194557Go back to licking Rush Lindbaugh's ass PACmoron. Don’t consider yourself to be conspiracy theorists. This thing is about control of all the earths resources by the UN and you just jump right on board with no proof. What a joke. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80449 United States 02/13/2007 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He's right. Gore is an opportunistic windbag." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 115051And your President's a whore to Big Oil. Just like his daddy before him. They're paying scientists to deny global warming so they can keep on selling their dirty fuel. Fact: the USA has 5% of the world's population and produces 25% of its pollutants. They're firing scientists who don't agree with global warming. Which one is the conspiracy? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 194557 United States 02/13/2007 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and everyone knows the Czech President is an expert on climate change. Quoting: PACNWguyGo back to licking Rush Lindbaugh's ass PACmoron. Don’t consider yourself to be conspiracy theorists. This thing is about control of all the earths resources by the UN and you just jump right on board with no proof. What a joke. the only joke in this thread is your teenie weenie brain, which probably matches the penis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 192603 United States 02/13/2007 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MOST americans are not saying that global climate cange is a myth, it is just a few people. Some of them have been paid to say this, but most are just people who only listen to those that have been paid to say this and won't look at the science for themselves. For all of the rhetoric, I have yet to see any backing for the "Not happening" crowd that holds up upon examination. MOST of them are not even claiming it is not happening, just that it is not man made.... Though I DO wonder how people are supposed to be making big bucks off of this thing! WHAT Carbon tax have you paid? Where is all the money that is supposed to be falsefying this info? So far ONLY the big oil and logging concerns seem to have put money in, in a fahion that directly relates to their bottom line, and THEY keep paying the scientists that claim nothing is happening... Follow the money and the rest becomes clear... |
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(OP) User ID: 60206 United States 02/13/2007 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by Thomas Sowell (more by this author) Posted: 02/13/2007 The political left's favorite argument is that there is no argument. Their current crusade is to turn "global warming" into one of those things that supposedly no honest and decent person can disagree about, as they have already done with "diversity" and "open space." The name of "science" is invoked by the left today, as it has been for more than two centuries. After all, Karl Marx's ideology was called "scientific socialism" in the 19th century. In the 18th century, Condorcet analogized his blueprint for a better society to engineering, and social engineering has been the agenda ever since. Not all the advocates of "global warming" are on the left, of course. Crusades are not just for crusaders. There are always hangers-on who can turn the true believers' crusades into votes or money or at least notoriety. Whether the globe really is warming is a question about facts -- and about where those facts are measured: on land, in the air or under the sea. There is no question that there is a "greenhouse" effect. Otherwise, half the planet would freeze every night when there is no sunlight falling on it. There is also no question that the earth can warm or cool. It has done both at one time or another for thousands of years, even before there were SUVs. If there had never been any global warming before, we wouldn't be able to enjoy Yosemite Valley today for it was once buried under thousands of feet of ice. Back in the 1970s, the environmental hysteria was about the dangers of a new ice age. This hysteria was spread by many of the same individuals and groups who are promoting today's hysteria about global warming. It is not just the sky that is falling. Government money is falling on those who seek grants to study global warming and produce "solutions" for it. But that money is not as likely to fall on those skeptics in the scientific community who refuse to join the stampede. Yes, Virginia, there are skeptics about global warming among scientists who study weather and climate. There are arguments both ways -- which is why so many in politics and in the media are so busy selling the notion that there is no argument. If you heard both arguments, you might not be so willing to go along with those who are prepared to ruin the economy, sacrificing jobs and the national standard of living on the altar to the latest in an unending series of crusades, conducted by politicians and other people seeking to tell everyone else how to live. What about all those scientists mentioned, cited or quoted by global warming crusaders? There are all kinds of scientists, from chemists to nuclear physicists to people who study insects, volcanoes, and endocrine glands -- none of whom is an expert on weather or climate, but all of whom can be listed as scientists, to impress people who don't scrutinize the list any further. That ploy has already been used. Then there are genuine scientific experts on weather and climate. The National Academy of Sciences came out with a report on global warming back in 2001 with a very distinguished list of such experts listed. The problem is that not one of those very distinguished scientists actually wrote the report -- or even saw it before it was published. One of those very distinguished climate scientists -- Richard S. Lindzen of MIT -- publicly repudiated the conclusions of that report, even though his name had been among those used as window dressing on the report. But the media may not have told you that. In short, there has been a full court press to convince the public that "everybody knows" that a catastrophic global warming looms over us, that human beings are the cause of it, and that the only solution is to turn more money and power over to the government to stop us from our dangerous ways of living. Among the climate experts who are not part of that "everybody" are not only Professor Lindzen but also Fred Singer and Dennis Avery, whose book "Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years," punctures the hot air balloon of the global warming crusaders. So does the book "Shattered Consensus," edited by Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, which contains essays by others who are not part of "everybody." OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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(OP) User ID: 60206 United States 02/13/2007 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anti-America Crowd Seeks U.S. Capitulation to Leftist Causes by Jack Langer (more by this author) Posted: 02/12/2007 The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change picked an inauspicious time to predict our impending doom due to global warming. The panel released the results of its report on Groundhog Day as much of the United States suffered from a record-breaking cold spell. Schools closed in New York, Wisconsin and Michigan, while temperatures plunged below zero as far South as West Virginia. An intense cold front simultaneously chilled much of Southeast Asia, bringing to Cambodia the coldest temperatures in at least 27 years. Green Bandwagon The only surprise about the report's timing is that the details weren't released by Al Gore, who chooses the coldest day of the year to give global warming speeches with the regularity of an infant on Ex-lax. The UN report, declaring that global warming is almost certainly caused by humans, warned of future natural catastrophes such as dramatically rising sea levels, droughts and calamitous storms. One would think the flooding and storms would at least solve the drought problem, but then again, who am I to question an organization as famous as the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change? The report’s findings elicited some particularly unrestrained commentary from passengers of the rapidly expanding global-warming bandwagon. Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research warned of more than a million deaths by 2100. Physicist Stephen Hawking added his best Jeremiah impression, comparing the dangers of global warming to those of nuclear war. Disconnected Activists In a demonstration of the true magnitude of the problem, a group of celebrities and musicians founded an organization, Global Cool, to tackle the issue. One of the group's activists, the actor Josh Harnett, burnished his reputation as a scientific intellectual in addition to being the star of cinematic masterpieces such as "Pearl Harbor." "I grew up in Minnesota, which is usually a cold place," he noted perceptively, "but we've seen abnormally warm winters the last couple of years, which is unnerving." A few days after the unnerved star's warning, temperatures in Northern Minnesota hit 38 degrees below zero. The international literati apparently agree that we are facing a cataclysm of biblical proportions. The only thing missing from the UN climate-change report was a warning that global warming would turn the Nile into blood and cause the death of Dick Cheney's first-born child, although these may be buried in an appendix somewhere. Blame America First Nevertheless, calls for immediate and drastic action were issued across the globe. Many of the declamations focused on the United States, the biggest emitter of greenhouse gasses. "The U.S. is going to have to decarbonize," Princeton University's Robert Socolow told the Los Angeles Times. Socolow claimed that it would take several hundred years to eradicate the elevated carbon levels stemming from human industry even if the entire world eradicated fossil fuels. If this is true, the only way the U.S. could substantially diminish global warming would be to eliminate industry completely and pastoralize the country along the lines of the Morgenthau plan for post-war Germany. Green activists seem to believe that a course of action that was dismissed as being too harsh on Nazi Germany is now quite appropriate for the United States in light of our environmental sins. Both China and Brazil called on unidentified wealthy countries to take the lead in making the necessary industrial adjustments to curb global warming. This showed some moxie on China’s part, seeing as it is expected to replace the U.S. as the biggest contributor to global warming in 2009. Yet China, which is already exempt from the responsibilities of the Kyoto climate accord, still gets a pass from the international environmental alarm brigade, which mysteriously insists on parking its fire truck of demands outside America's door. Chirac Threatens U.S. Speaking less obliquely, French President Jacques Chirac demanded the U.S. sign Kyoto, a treaty that would cost America an estimated $325 billion, according to Yale University's William Nordhaus and Joseph Boyer. Chirac also called for the preservation of mankind through a "revolution" including the imposition of a pan-European "carbon tax" on exports from recalcitrant states such as the U.S. that dare to reject Kyoto. It was unclear how Chirac's threat to make all Europeans pay more for their own purchases was received by Europeans themselves. Nor was it apparent whether the United States would retaliate by doubling the price of bidets nationwide. The real motives behind the entire global-warming hysteria are equally opaque. It surely isn’t science -- Timothy Ball, the first Canadian Ph.D. in climatology, recently called global warming “the greatest deception in the history of science.” Plenty of scientific research bears this out, from Bjorn Lomborg's "The Skeptical Environmentalis"t to the newly released "Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years" by physicist Fred Singer and economist Dennis Avery. Real Agenda When the "international community" adopts some issue, there is usually a larger agenda at play than the specific demands it makes. For example, the activists who sponsored the Live 8 concert weren’t trying just to alleviate African poverty. They were trying to force Western governments to assume responsibility for Africa's plight. Likewise, the unending denunciations of Israeli policies emitting from myriad international organizations and UN bodies are designed to delegitimize the Jewish state and transform it into an international pariah. But what could the international community possibly hope to achieve by hyping the global-warming scare, other than advancing yet another issue with which to whip America and ultimately force the country to undertake measures that would do immense harm to its own economy? It's funny how some questions answer themselves. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 132192 United States 02/13/2007 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this idiot knows more about it than Gore? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195171Why did this goofus even make the headlines? All you ever hear from the antiglobalwarmingists is that Al is wrong. That's it. He's just wrong. No numbers for backup, no explaination. You never hear them try to explain why CO2 levels are now at a level that Earth has not seen in millions of years. [link to www.junkscience.com] Why? Ask the Sun... |