California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

There was a major dam breach in Uzbekistan on May 1. It was on strange sounds and you tube. It's not Oroville but 70,000 people were evacuated as a result.

I had the same dream last night about something happening in the spillway above Oroville causing an uncontrolled release into the Oroville dam causing it go. It's really pissed me off though because it's like god is taunting me and can't deliver and just shut the fuck up about it. I have been having dreams like this ever since 1993 when whole thing started up. Another dream a couple weeks before was yeah, a collapse of the Oroville could kill a million people if the wave makes it all the way to Sacramento if the dam were full.

there is obvious water draining on upper pics... and strange patterns forming on the concrete... looks like MUD over on the right side as I VIEW the the video.

Lower video now has obvious water draining off in several places.

No expert on the patterns on the upper video.. closer to gates... but is that leakage from underneath?

Since I made this post.. I reloaded the video.. the mud is obvious.. and there are a bunch on new white vehicles close to where the spillway begins to dip down... that were not there when I posted above... They just shut down the video as I was watching one of the vehicles pulling out and leaving.

Edit.. and now the lower stream is shut off too.

The leakage currently visible on the top camera is coming through the failing gates. The ones Juan Cornholio stated 'were never designed to seal' and are 'metal on metal'.

A lie, and another lie. The gates were designed to seal and are not 'metal on metal'. Rubber seals on all four sides of each gate. Who would design gates to leak? Nobody.


There was consistent leakage visible from the top cam well before the reservoir elevation reached the bottom of the spillway gates. I have made mention of it in many previous posts in this thread. It was on the left side of the spillway (viewed from the top cam) and just upstream from the 'downturn' of the spillway chute. That water could only have been coming from underneath the structure.

I assume this leakage is continuing, but is now co-mingled with the leakage coming through the gates.

The dam is not 'fine'.

:thank you 3:

More Gate leaking this evening pretty much all the way across. lower cam is off so I don't know if the quantity appears more there too...

Oroville keeps running through my mind.

while there are serious spillway problems the biggy issue is the abutment to the dam on the side of the dam where the spillway is.. It has serious structural problems in both the abutment and the dam itself on that side.. and its going to blow at some point. Its NOT the area where the green grows.. its the abutment on your left as you face the dam.. next to the spillway.

Crunch- can you imagine Blancodelerious if you told him some hydraulic seals on his cargo jet were designed to leak fluid or air? Lol.

Maybe they told him he is desperately needed to prevent panic and he feels like the lies are part of his duty? All so weird. I think about central valley sometimes and I just want to expand my gardening and freeze more nuts for when it is all washed away.

Where is the most accurate site for current lake levels?

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)]

for a couple days.. no water coming down from the top thru the gates.. not visible anyway. today there is some again and the mud has decreased... I assume this is fluctuation in the lake levels... since the seals are no existant.

Two dam failures in Midland Michigan tonight with 10,000 evacuated. That river flows all the way into Saginaw Michigan.

Wow. Nothing like the power of water.

The Oro Dam gate seals seem like they were well-designed initially, inflatable rubber bulbs on the top and both sides. They are inflated with reservoir water under pressure. The bottom seal is simply compressed by the weight of the gate itself.

In the past decades, the seal function has been compromised both by silt accumulating in the inflation piping and the fact that the gate structure is laterally deforming or 'racking'. The gate openings are no longer square, as evidenced by the galling and gouging of the stainless steel wear plates on the sides of the openings. This is clearly shown in some of the dam inspection reports.

This, in conjunction with the concerns expressed regarding the integrity of the gate anchor tendons, proves that the entire gate structure needs to be rebuilt or replaced.

Blancornholio's description of the gates never being designed to seal and that they are 'metal on metal' is pure fiction.

Last Edited by Crunch62 on 05/20/2020 08:08 AM

The oro camera video streams are not always live, sometimes looped or show old images. Another way of failure is an overload of debris and trees along the dam especially stacking up at the emergency spillway. Maybe from the fires just above the lake that was never cleaned up.

interesting reading about all the repairs that were needed a couple years ago on the dam that failed in MI and thinking about certain other dams in need of repair...looking forward to seeing exactly how it failed. it looks like some part of the earthern area liquified and then opened up into a spout of water. also, this may be old news, but the Oroville dam watch group site is being sold? what happened to those guys?

Yesterday water flowing from the top.. but cam at bottom not working.

Today water flowing in smaller amount.. they must be showing a old view of the bottom because none of it is reachng the bottom that I can discern anyway.

I haven't been able to view the bottom cam in weeks. I get an error stating 'check cross-origin policy'. That is related to a server setting on their end. I'm not sure what's up.

it comes and goes for me... interesting the server situation... I have never gotten a message.. just states its not available.. I felt like we were seeing a old image though...

This is really strange. Today, I can view the lower cam without receiving an error message.

Odd that the timestamp display is not counting off seconds, etc., like the upper cam does. It just updates the time/date once per minute.

Now the strange part. It is very windy here today. Sustained south winds of 20+ MPH with higher gusts.

When viewing the lower cam, I can see the camera shake as it is buffeted by the wind. I can see the trees in the foreground swaying with the wind gusts.

But the trees in the background (on the far side of the river channel are not. moving. at. all.

EDIT> Nevermind, I just saw one move.

Last Edited by Crunch62 on 06/05/2020 03:56 PM

The same with the lower one for me I just viewed... as to the time stamp.

The upper one ran thru one cycle and cut off...and the birds were STUNNING... in it. I like that one just to watch the birds sometimes...really big ones today. I did see wind rattling the fences on the left side AS YOU VIEW IT (the dam side) on the computer.. .. and some vehicles went thru.. I saw NO water at the top.

after it cut me off.. and I was typing here.. I tried again and it was back up...and several vehicles went thru..

[link to imgur.com (secure)]

I don't live there but if I understand... the location of the sand bags and I am not sure where the middle parking lot there was a major issue there during constructon and its expected to blow there. I was given a LOT of personal information on that when the spillway broke...



There were defects in dam construction next to the abutment on the spill way side. and it can't be fixed. it is expected to cause some big trouble.. are there sand bags on that? I tried to find the online source of the imgur...

I can’t see the photo well enough to see them but could definitely tell something was different right away and I thought I had heard that was one of the weak areas. Is this near the green spot? My eyes are really bad. Been having migraines.

Oh wait, the left abutment you mean, where it is supposed to blow? Oh shit.

the photo didn't help me much.. its murky.

the danger area I was informed about is the seam between the dam and the abutment on the spillway side... there was less worry on the green spot at that time I was updated.. I was shown a lot of construction pics on another forum at the time.. and had them explained to me what happened during the construction.

the construction plans and history are online somewhere... I was using another computer and I don't have links on this one.

You see now? No more earthquakes device measure.

Why they fool you? What to hide?

Yes, there is settling occurring in that area. The cause of the 'road gap' mentioned in earlier posts in this thread. Also the likely cause ot the racking of the spillway gate structure. The redacted information in the Oroville Dam Needs Assassment published by CA DWR last November likely refers to this.