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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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UP 0.99 FEET IN LAST 24HRS!

INFLOWS 6297 WHEN WAS THE LAST LESS THAN A FOOT A DAY HOUR?!?
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UP 0.99 FEET IN LAST 24HRS!

INFLOWS 6297 WHEN WAS THE LAST LESS THAN A FOOT A DAY HOUR?!?
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AT PRESENT PACE WILL RACH 813.50-ISH SUNDAY SUNRISE-ISH. CAPS!
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UP 0.96 FEET IN THE LAST 24 HRS. THEY ARE RATCHETING IT UP! UH
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So what yer all sayin’ is, (without actually sayin’ it…)

The dam is fine


If the dam was in danger, there’d be all kinds if activity, trucks, Kiewit crews milking OT like there’s no tomirrow, dwr diversity hires aimlessly milling about…
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So what yer all sayin’ is, (without actually sayin’ it…)

The dam is fine


If the dam was in danger, there’d be all kinds if activity, trucks, Kiewit crews milking OT like there’s no tomirrow, dwr diversity hires aimlessly milling about…
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GIVE IT SOME TIME. THEY'LL START TO SHOW UP WHEN IT GETS NEAR THE GATES AND THEN IF A HEAT WAVE AND SOME STORMS POP UP AGAIN
THEY'LL GET ALL THE O.T. THEY WANT. THE ELECTRICITY IS MINIMAL
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So what yer all sayin’ is, (without actually sayin’ it…)

The dam is fine


If the dam was in danger, there’d be all kinds if activity, trucks, Kiewit crews milking OT like there’s no tomirrow, dwr diversity hires aimlessly milling about…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81097223


NO..NOT AT ALL. THE DAM IS DANGEROUS WITH ALMOST NO WATUH IN IT. IT IS.... UH 'CORVAIR', JOEY. AND THE MORE IT GETS FUCKED WITH BY PUTTING 'ANY' WATUH IN IT IZ BHAD, JOEY. SO, ALSO NEGLECTING THE WOIK IT NEEDS IZ EVEN WOISE..JOEY. SO, ADD DHAT
ALL UP. JOEY. UH.
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Is this thing game on again.
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What happens at 813 feet?
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What happens at 813 feet?
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Judging from the 1478 pages of this thread - nothing.
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Is this thing game on again.
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YEAH, TAKEN ON WEIGHT..IN BAD SHAPE. MORE FORCES COMING. THEY
WANT IT TO FAIL THIS YEAR! CAMERAS OUT OF COMMISSION. SHILLZ2!
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What happens at 813 feet?
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Judging from the 1478 pages of this thread - nothing.
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I didn't read them all. You did? Holy moly man
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I would like to know the maximum outflow through the power station
I thought it was around 8200 with all the turbines working?
The lake level is rising about an foot
A day now. ( is that with maximum output?)
Can anyone tell if there is leaking
On the sides of the spill way
(Since you are right there)
I am worried if the spill way will stay in one piece if it has to be used in two months at the rate the lake is rising and the snow in the higher elevations has not started to melt.
Are the upper damns water levels high?
I have tried to access the information
But have not been able to!
Thank you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15053411


Hi there AC. I didn't want to let your post a few days ago be forgotten. I'll break it down by number:

1. I would like to know the maximum outflow through the power station
I thought it was around 8200 with all the turbines working?


2.The lake level is rising about an foot
A day now. ( is that with maximum output?)


3. Can anyone tell if there is leaking
On the sides of the spill way
(Since you are right there)


4.I am worried if the spill way will stay in one piece if it has to be used in two months at the rate the lake is rising and the snow in the higher elevations has not started to melt.


5. Are the upper damns water levels high?

I will skip 1,2, and 5. I think others here can readily answer, or else a few searches should help you find that information. I assume for 5 you only want the upper dams that flow into O lake. It is the Upper Feather watershed that feeds the O lake.

Regarding 4- is the new spillway capable of handling a large outflow.

Two sides on this one. DWR and friends will point out this is a billion dollar plus fix, with thicker concrete, stabilized rock now underneath, lots of rebar, lots of anchors deep into the ground. It is indeed a far superior spillway than the old one.

Here is the catch. You know how a bridge can fall apart if soldiers march in step across it, from wave harmonics? The idea that constant vibrations or oscillations add up and multiply until they can shake apart even a solid bridge? This is basic physics.

So in 2019, DWR opened up the spillway and said they would run it for a certain time (two weeks? I forget). They ran it briefly and then suddenly shut it off and let the water rise to the top. There were observers at the time who thought the water patterns were showing oscillations.

A guy named Marty D'Angelo who lives below the dam somewhere (Sacramento?) had a you tube channel, and some hacker guys from MIT sent him data from internal DWR secret data sites. Marty posted it online, and the numbers apparently showed that harmonic tremors were happening. I assume the new spillway has various sensors.

The story is that Marty got a visit from the feds and had to stop....terrorists and infrastructure and all that sort of thing. The same thing happened to a GREAT twitter poster named Weiryone. He used long distance zoom cameras to take pictures of everything spillway related, including leaky gates and leaky hillside, and they shut him down for "security" reasons. But the gates leak. That doesn't mean the spillway will fail, but it does mean the gates are in bad condition. ( you can read more with a search on Dr. Robert Bea and Tony Johnson, Oroville Dam gates).

I don't know what can be done if the flow sets up tremors. Maybe out of sync pulsed air jets down the spillway? Have they put anything in? Who knows, the cameras for the spillway no longer work.

The bottom line should be- Do you trust them? Do you trust DWR and the CA govt? If the water gets up to 880 and rain or snowmelt is forecast, and they decide to open the gates, do you trust them?

The gates could fail. They are in awful condition. We dont know about the spillway for sure. Do you question the guys and data from MIT? Do you want to take a chance being on lower ground?

When things that used to be open are kept secret and hidden, usually there is something to hide.
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IM ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW FULL THE 4 LAKES/DAMS ARE ABOVE.UH
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808.71 UP 0.96 FEET IN LAST 24 HRS!
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INFLOWS 5100 EXACTLY!
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808.75 STILL AT 0.96 LAST 24 HR
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INFLWO 4950'

RIV REL. DOWN TO 972
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What happens at 813 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83276998


That is when the water in the reservoir reaches the level of the bottom of the spillway gates.

Typically, that is when the gates begin leaking.

Juan Browne the clown has publicly stated that the Oroville spillway gate seals are 'metal on metal' and are 'designed to leak'. This is utter fiction.

Each gate has rubber seals on all four sides. The bottom seal is a bulb-type seal that is compressed by the weight of the gate.

Both sides and the top of each gate have inflatable seals that are pressurized using water from the reservoir.

Unfortunately, the gate structure that supports the gates has settled and racked, so the the openings the the rectangular gates occupy are no longer rectangular. This causes the gates to bind and the seals to fail.

Some repairs were supposedly completed over the past year. We'll soon know if they were effective.
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I would like to know the maximum outflow through the power station
I thought it was around 8200 with all the turbines working?
The lake level is rising about an foot
A day now. ( is that with maximum output?)
Can anyone tell if there is leaking
On the sides of the spill way
(Since you are right there)
I am worried if the spill way will stay in one piece if it has to be used in two months at the rate the lake is rising and the snow in the higher elevations has not started to melt.
Are the upper damns water levels high?
I have tried to access the information
But have not been able to!
Thank you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15053411


Hi there AC. I didn't want to let your post a few days ago be forgotten. I'll break it down by number:

1. I would like to know the maximum outflow through the power station
I thought it was around 8200 with all the turbines working?


2.The lake level is rising about an foot
A day now. ( is that with maximum output?)


3. Can anyone tell if there is leaking
On the sides of the spill way
(Since you are right there)


4.I am worried if the spill way will stay in one piece if it has to be used in two months at the rate the lake is rising and the snow in the higher elevations has not started to melt.


5. Are the upper damns water levels high?

I will skip 1,2, and 5. I think others here can readily answer, or else a few searches should help you find that information. I assume for 5 you only want the upper dams that flow into O lake. It is the Upper Feather watershed that feeds the O lake.

Regarding 4- is the new spillway capable of handling a large outflow.

Two sides on this one. DWR and friends will point out this is a billion dollar plus fix, with thicker concrete, stabilized rock now underneath, lots of rebar, lots of anchors deep into the ground. It is indeed a far superior spillway than the old one.

Here is the catch. You know how a bridge can fall apart if soldiers march in step across it, from wave harmonics? The idea that constant vibrations or oscillations add up and multiply until they can shake apart even a solid bridge? This is basic physics.

So in 2019, DWR opened up the spillway and said they would run it for a certain time (two weeks? I forget). They ran it briefly and then suddenly shut it off and let the water rise to the top. There were observers at the time who thought the water patterns were showing oscillations.

A guy named Marty D'Angelo who lives below the dam somewhere (Sacramento?) had a you tube channel, and some hacker guys from MIT sent him data from internal DWR secret data sites. Marty posted it online, and the numbers apparently showed that harmonic tremors were happening. I assume the new spillway has various sensors.

The story is that Marty got a visit from the feds and had to stop....terrorists and infrastructure and all that sort of thing. The same thing happened to a GREAT twitter poster named Weiryone. He used long distance zoom cameras to take pictures of everything spillway related, including leaky gates and leaky hillside, and they shut him down for "security" reasons. But the gates leak. That doesn't mean the spillway will fail, but it does mean the gates are in bad condition. ( you can read more with a search on Dr. Robert Bea and Tony Johnson, Oroville Dam gates).

I don't know what can be done if the flow sets up tremors. Maybe out of sync pulsed air jets down the spillway? Have they put anything in? Who knows, the cameras for the spillway no longer work.

The bottom line should be- Do you trust them? Do you trust DWR and the CA govt? If the water gets up to 880 and rain or snowmelt is forecast, and they decide to open the gates, do you trust them?

The gates could fail. They are in awful condition. We dont know about the spillway for sure. Do you question the guys and data from MIT? Do you want to take a chance being on lower ground?

When things that used to be open are kept secret and hidden, usually there is something to hide.
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THEY JUST ENDED 3 HRS OF 3556 BECAUSE THE INFLOWS JUMPED UP TO
OVUH 10 AND 11K AGAIN. THEY R SCARED.
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THEY JUST ENDED 3 HRS OF 3556 BECAUSE THE INFLOWS JUMPED UP TO
OVUH 10 AND 11K AGAIN. THEY R SCARED.
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UP 0.96 FT IN LAST 24 HRS.
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What happens at 813 feet?
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That is when the water in the reservoir reaches the level of the bottom of the spillway gates.

Typically, that is when the gates begin leaking.

Juan Browne the clown has publicly stated that the Oroville spillway gate seals are 'metal on metal' and are 'designed to leak'. This is utter fiction.

Each gate has rubber seals on all four sides. The bottom seal is a bulb-type seal that is compressed by the weight of the gate.

Both sides and the top of each gate have inflatable seals that are pressurized using water from the reservoir.

Unfortunately, the gate structure that supports the gates has settled and racked, so the the openings the the rectangular gates occupy are no longer rectangular. This causes the gates to bind and the seals to fail.

Some repairs were supposedly completed over the past year. We'll soon know if they were effective.
 Quoting: Crunch62


AND 'I' THINK THAT SOME OF THIS LEAKING IN AND AROUND THE GATES IS GOING..INSIDE THE DAM. BUT, THAT'S JUST ME. CAPMAN.
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Sometimes, I really have to wonder about this whole idea of weather manipulation…

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Sometimes, I really have to wonder about this whole idea of weather manipulation…


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TO 'ME': U.S. CHINUH RUSSIA AND OTHER HAVE BEEN DOING WEATHER WARS FOR AWHILE NOW. SINCE CERN, EVERY COUNTRY NOW HAS SUPER
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STILL 0.96 FT. UP IN LAST 24 HRS. UH





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