California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82452906 United States 03/15/2023 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed oh, i UH..JUS' GAVE BIRTH TO THIS AS WELL IF, UH..ANYONE IZ UH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82452906 BORED. OR, UH THHRHOHL....CAPS. Thread: FINESTEIN ~ GONE ~ PELOSI + PAUL ~ GONE ~ FETTERMAN ~ GONE ~ BIDEN ~ GONE ~ MCCONNEL ~GONE ~CARTER ~ GONE ~ YELLEN ~ GONE ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85346044 United States 03/15/2023 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Quoting: Crunch62 Considering US taxpayers coughed up approx. $1 billion to clean up the State of California's mess, the least they could have done was to use a few thousand of that and install livecams devoted exclusively to the spillway, gates and the front of the dam itself, that actually work and stay online 24/7 Those are the areas most people are interested in seeing, especially when severe weather hits. Instead, we are tortured by being forced to sit through 5 minutes of trees, the horizon, a flat lake, and part of a wall just to view a small part at the top of the spillway, Taxpayers should be able to view what they paid for. What are they afraid of? Actually, this same camera USED to simply show the upper spillway deck and the spillway bridge area. A total of three views as I recall, all of the upper spillway area. There is another camera, the 'lower spillway camera' that I believe is still in place across the diversion pool from the bottom of the spillway. We aren't allowed to view that one. So you got me thinking... and I started changing the page id numbers on the web link and found a "hidden" cam. There may be more. I'm going to root around. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Considering US taxpayers coughed up approx. $1 billion to clean up the State of California's mess, the least they could have done was to use a few thousand of that and install livecams devoted exclusively to the spillway, gates and the front of the dam itself, that actually work and stay online 24/7 Those are the areas most people are interested in seeing, especially when severe weather hits. Instead, we are tortured by being forced to sit through 5 minutes of trees, the horizon, a flat lake, and part of a wall just to view a small part at the top of the spillway, Taxpayers should be able to view what they paid for. What are they afraid of? Actually, this same camera USED to simply show the upper spillway deck and the spillway bridge area. A total of three views as I recall, all of the upper spillway area. There is another camera, the 'lower spillway camera' that I believe is still in place across the diversion pool from the bottom of the spillway. We aren't allowed to view that one. So you got me thinking... and I started changing the page id numbers on the web link and found a "hidden" cam. There may be more. I'm going to root around. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Nice! I don't know where that is, but there are a lot of porta-shitters in that one view. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85346044 United States 03/15/2023 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83952860 Considering US taxpayers coughed up approx. $1 billion to clean up the State of California's mess, the least they could have done was to use a few thousand of that and install livecams devoted exclusively to the spillway, gates and the front of the dam itself, that actually work and stay online 24/7 Those are the areas most people are interested in seeing, especially when severe weather hits. Instead, we are tortured by being forced to sit through 5 minutes of trees, the horizon, a flat lake, and part of a wall just to view a small part at the top of the spillway, Taxpayers should be able to view what they paid for. What are they afraid of? Actually, this same camera USED to simply show the upper spillway deck and the spillway bridge area. A total of three views as I recall, all of the upper spillway area. There is another camera, the 'lower spillway camera' that I believe is still in place across the diversion pool from the bottom of the spillway. We aren't allowed to view that one. So you got me thinking... and I started changing the page id numbers on the web link and found a "hidden" cam. There may be more. I'm going to root around. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Nice! I don't know where that is, but there are a lot of porta-shitters in that one view. I found the same cam under a different number. It's called "Poppy Reserve" [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Crunch62 Actually, this same camera USED to simply show the upper spillway deck and the spillway bridge area. A total of three views as I recall, all of the upper spillway area. There is another camera, the 'lower spillway camera' that I believe is still in place across the diversion pool from the bottom of the spillway. We aren't allowed to view that one. So you got me thinking... and I started changing the page id numbers on the web link and found a "hidden" cam. There may be more. I'm going to root around. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Nice! I don't know where that is, but there are a lot of porta-shitters in that one view. I found the same cam under a different number. It's called "Poppy Reserve" [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Gotta love those poppies. The California State Flower. They grow wild here in Whoville along 7th Ave. I think it is illegal to harvest or molest them LOL. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Poppy Reserve. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Well, crap. Not so hidden. Still, might be something yet to find besides this creepy doll. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Wow. That is creepy. Imagine what those people endured up there all those years ago. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Well, crap. Not so hidden. Still, might be something yet to find besides this creepy doll. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Wow. That is creepy. Imagine what those people endured up there all those years ago. Marysville, CA named after Donner Party survivor Mary Murphy. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] They survived and then got flooded out in Marysville year after year. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85297093 United States 03/15/2023 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Quoting: Crunch62 Considering US taxpayers coughed up approx. $1 billion to clean up the State of California's mess, the least they could have done was to use a few thousand of that and install livecams devoted exclusively to the spillway, gates and the front of the dam itself, that actually work and stay online 24/7 Those are the areas most people are interested in seeing, especially when severe weather hits. Instead, we are tortured by being forced to sit through 5 minutes of trees, the horizon, a flat lake, and part of a wall just to view a small part at the top of the spillway, Taxpayers should be able to view what they paid for. What are they afraid of? Back in 2017 they had all those cameras you're asking for and everyone here was glued to them. Back then they even left the lights on at night so you could see the water levels both in the reservoir and coming down the spillway. |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Quoting: Crunch62 Considering US taxpayers coughed up approx. $1 billion to clean up the State of California's mess, the least they could have done was to use a few thousand of that and install livecams devoted exclusively to the spillway, gates and the front of the dam itself, that actually work and stay online 24/7 Those are the areas most people are interested in seeing, especially when severe weather hits. Instead, we are tortured by being forced to sit through 5 minutes of trees, the horizon, a flat lake, and part of a wall just to view a small part at the top of the spillway, Taxpayers should be able to view what they paid for. What are they afraid of? Back in 2017 they had all those cameras you're asking for and everyone here was glued to them. Back then they even left the lights on at night so you could see the water levels both in the reservoir and coming down the spillway. Yep, and they vowed they would keep them up. But it is now Gavin Newsoms' California. Oaths and promises mean nothing. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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User ID: 78116487 United States 03/15/2023 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Fun little video for kids about the process of cavitation at the Glen Canyon Dam. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: pdisegypsy Very nice presentation. That was great. Thanks. I think O spillway is doomed without smoother joints. |
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User ID: 53689556 United States 03/15/2023 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Fun little video for kids about the process of cavitation at the Glen Canyon Dam. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: pdisegypsy Very nice presentation. That was great. Thanks. I think O spillway is doomed without smoother joints. Awesome video. Too bad CA DWR isn't paying attention. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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User ID: 78116487 United States 03/15/2023 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Prayandprepare000 In essence, my main point here, if there is structural damage, the gates may not open ( notice they are not all open). Or, once open, they might get stuck while open. (my hypothesis is that this explains the low release. Fear of a Folsom like failure). ... I think the gates are all open, aren't they? And no doubt DWR is worried about everything working right, but (just my opinion) doubt if they would hesitate to use the gates based on the known issues. They honest-to-God believe everything is fine and will work as planned. I would instead put my money on DWR thinking "Let's fill up our piggy-bank as fast as possible and start counting the dough, baby!" Which pisses me off because the supposedly mandatory flood pool reservation is based on historical records of how much flood storage they MIGHT STILL need. Since DWR can't see into the future, it would behoove them to follow well-known, best-case conservative storage management engineering guidelines even at the risk of ending up a few acre-ft short of a full dam in May. And I doubt they'll be short at all with the next round of ARk storms rolling in. Not sure what kind of dumb-assed game they're playing here, but they could have got a jump on maintaining flood storage four days ago by spilling. Everyone knew what was coming, even GLP. Now they can't release much faster if they wanted to because the Sacramento is flooding. They damn well could have started spilling last Saturday and made room by now without causing any problems downstream. At the end of yesterday, 3/14, they already exceeded the upper storage limit by 42,000 acre-ft. It will probably be double that today. I'm sure they figure inflows will drop off as the week goes on, and then they'll draw the reservoir back down to the flood reservation limit. We know how that's probably going to work out. It's the ABV TOC column on this data set: [link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)] Trunion anchor stuff: https://twitter.com/_/status/1636090833643491328 https://twitter.com/_/status/1636091772400021507 Good job on twitter. I hope your posts go far and wide. This time they didn't open all 8 at first, only four. I don't know what's happening now. I just kinda figured they kept the worst looking ones shut. I keep meaning to dig out that Bea report and figure out which gate had the 14 foot crack. I was thinking they'd keep it shut. But honestly I've no idea what goes through their minds. No matter how often we refer to the Bea report and the gates, the shills do their DDIF replies. Delusion, insanity, fear....who knows. |
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