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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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25,000 CFS is rookie numbers.

Call me when they are in a 150,000 CFS release panic.

That is when that $1B spillway will earn it's keep.
What the Hell?...
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And yet…


35,000 cfs…

atmospheric blow jobs…

concrete crapitation…


the

DDIF

(sounds like yer all facing the facts now, this series of storms, though it did blow over my lawn chairs- I WILL rebuild) It is no where near record levels,
the dam is fine.

you know it skull boomer, you inow crapman, DWR INOWS army corpse of enginerds knows it…

mebbe next tear orotards?
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And yet…


35,000 cfs…

atmospheric blow jobs…

concrete crapitation…


the

DDIF

(sounds like yer all facing the facts now, this series of storms, though it did blow over my lawn chairs- I WILL rebuild) It is no where near record levels,
the dam is fine.

you know it skull boomer, you inow crapman, DWR INOWS army corpse of enginerds knows it…

mebbe next tear orotards?
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3X over budget and the gates still leak.

Racked and subsiding gatehouse.

Water permeating the entire structure.

The dam is not fine, Skippy.

Think about it.
What the Hell?...
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25,000 CFS is rookie numbers.

Call me when they are in a 150,000 CFS release panic.

That is when that $1B spillway will earn it's keep.
 Quoting: Crunch62


This!
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And yet…


35,000 cfs…

atmospheric blow jobs…

concrete crapitation…


the

DDIF

(sounds like yer all facing the facts now, this series of storms, though it did blow over my lawn chairs- I WILL rebuild) It is no where near record levels,
the dam is fine.

you know it skull boomer, you inow crapman, DWR INOWS army corpse of enginerds knows it…

mebbe next tear orotards?
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Thanks for the bump! I appreciate it.

GayHomo
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Does anyone have any MIT info regarding harmonica solos from the spillway...;)
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Repost from page 1450. There may be new people looking at this thread.

If you never watched this, its is crucial to see. Real numbers from an MIT hack into the DWR spillway page. Good footage too.

( Paveway 1V):
Harmonic tremors are an earthquake thing. Harmonic vibrations, especially low-frequency ones on a structure being hammered by nearly 100,000 CFS of fast-moving, flowing water are also... undesirable. Marty D'Angelo covered the issue in a few of his videos:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


The frequency of these vibrations are below the hearing threshold and measured by sensors in the spillway. I've never heard them in Marty's videos (because: crappy speakers) but I do remember people described the new spillway test flow sounding like a chugging (like a train), meaning the spillway or the rock underneath was heaving enough to change the sound of the water gushing down the spillway. Seems sketchy for a brand new spillway.


I think Marty got in trouble for getting that sensor data (because: DWR secrets). So, the main spillway may rip itself apart if it has to run full-bore for a day or two. Or it may be fine. DWR doesn't seem worried about it, so I guess we're good.

Plenty of other 'Dam problems' pre- and post-new-spillway snark from Marty on his YouTube channel. He hasn't posted in a while, AFIK.
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Crunch- if that didn't link go to page 1544 and scroll down to the post. The link takes you to the MIT numbers. Not being a wave physicist its all Greek to me, but I believe Marty and MIT and Paveway.

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Water release efforts have added 6,951 acre-feet to reservoir capacity over the last 24 hours and lowered the lake level by half a foot. 548,311 acre-feet of capacity remain, lake levels are 40.5' below maximum.

Warm rain is forecast to start tonight and continue through Wednesday.
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As long as the gates and the MS holds up, they should squeak by. But there is no excuse for DWR taking such risks by letting it fill way beyond the flood-storage requirements.
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And yet…


35,000 cfs…

atmospheric blow jobs…

concrete crapitation…


the

DDIF

(sounds like yer all facing the facts now, this series of storms, though it did blow over my lawn chairs- I WILL rebuild) It is no where near record levels,
the dam is fine.

you know it skull boomer, you inow crapman, DWR INOWS army corpse of enginerds knows it…

mebbe next tear orotards?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80838134


Your alleged sense of humor is as faulty as your trust in government and their contractors. Why do you keep making that stupid joke? There's a lot of people in the area who have lost a lot due to disasters in the area and your lame joke only belittles their experience.
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Repost from page 1450. There may be new people looking at this thread.

If you never watched this, its is crucial to see. Real numbers from an MIT hack into the DWR spillway page. Good footage too.

( Paveway 1V):
Harmonic tremors are an earthquake thing. Harmonic vibrations, especially low-frequency ones on a structure being hammered by nearly 100,000 CFS of fast-moving, flowing water are also... undesirable. Marty D'Angelo covered the issue in a few of his videos:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


The frequency of these vibrations are below the hearing threshold and measured by sensors in the spillway. I've never heard them in Marty's videos (because: crappy speakers) but I do remember people described the new spillway test flow sounding like a chugging (like a train), meaning the spillway or the rock underneath was heaving enough to change the sound of the water gushing down the spillway. Seems sketchy for a brand new spillway.


I think Marty got in trouble for getting that sensor data (because: DWR secrets). So, the main spillway may rip itself apart if it has to run full-bore for a day or two. Or it may be fine. DWR doesn't seem worried about it, so I guess we're good.

Plenty of other 'Dam problems' pre- and post-new-spillway snark from Marty on his YouTube channel. He hasn't posted in a while, AFIK.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


Given the 3 earthquakes around Oroville 3/6 3/10 3/14 and linkely 3/15, in conjunction with the opening of the spillway...and your post, this video is also relevant.


Efficiency of Ground Motion Intensity Measures with Earthquake-Induced Earth Dam Deformations

www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=Rwl5TFBSJxQ

The issue at ORO is that they have tuned down the ORO seimo til is is basically useless. I state that with 1000% certitude because the other non USBS seismo's around ORO pick up earthquakes.
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Crunch- if that didn't link go to page 1544 and scroll down to the post. The link takes you to the MIT numbers. Not being a wave physicist its all Greek to me, but I believe Marty and MIT and Paveway.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


Thank you, and the video is here.



Scary low frequencies.

Could shake anything apart. Tesla stuff.
What the Hell?...
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And yet…


35,000 cfs…

atmospheric blow jobs…

concrete crapitation…


the

DDIF

(sounds like yer all facing the facts now, this series of storms, though it did blow over my lawn chairs- I WILL rebuild) It is no where near record levels,
the dam is fine.

you know it skull boomer, you inow crapman, DWR INOWS army corpse of enginerds knows it…

mebbe next tear orotards?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80838134


'skull boomer' LOL.

catfilenails
What the Hell?...
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There are crazies out there....


"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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And here we go again......


"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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whatever happened to the gold that was discovered
after the dam broke?
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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 Quoting: High _Strangeness


VERY GOOD DATA FOR THE FIRST 3 MINUTES. EVERYTHING ABOVE IS
AT 100-99%. SO, THEY KNOW THE SNOW MELT WILL OVERWHELM ALL OF
THE LAKES UP TOP IN UH..COUPLE/FEW WEEKS..SO, THEY NEED TO UH,
DUMP AS MUCH HERE AS THEY CAN. IM TELLIN YA. GONNUH BE BHAD.UH
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MEMBUH...THERE'S NO ROOM LEFT UH-BOVE! YA GOT 3 MINS ? EVEN UH
THIS PROPAGANDA WATUH~WHORE VIDEO TELLS THE TRUTH UH-BOUT DA
SITUATION..JOEY.
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ALMOST DOWN 1~FOOT FROM PEAK HIGH OF 861.20 HOW LOW CAN IT GO?
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ALMOST DOWN 1~FOOT FROM PEAK HIGH OF 861.20 HOW LOW CAN IT GO?
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OUTFLOWS 36K

INFLOWS 27.5K

RIV REL 35K

NEW DATA IN 15ISH. UH

CAPMAN.
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guys? hey guys?, yeah you tards obsessing on the dam…

I’m glad to see you guys finally admitting “yeah the storms were not as bad as other years”

“yeah, the spillways fine”

“TEAH the DD is not leaking”

Thats the furst step, tacit admittal that you were wrong, you uneducated worry warts should be thinking about how yer gonna pay rent on yer shit boxes and avoid homelessness as we descend into the greater depression. And imminent reset…

The DDIF is the least of yer worries…


Have you seen the ddif spillway today??

ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS PURE LAMINAR FLOW AT 55000 CFS!

POETRY IN MOTION


PERFECT ENGINEERING

5000 psi concreted

surface finish designed to add foaming friction

it will be glorious at 125k, but we’ll never need to even flow it that high.


PERFECT MANAGEMENT

PERFECT WATER LEVELS

PERFECT WEATHER

yep, I’m one of those guys that’s ALWAYS right.

thats why i make the big bucks, in fact, when I retire, I’ll make more in one month than you make in 6! (3 at 50 BAYBEE!!!)
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Update for March 17:



 Quoting: High _Strangeness


VERY GOOD DATA FOR THE FIRST 3 MINUTES. EVERYTHING ABOVE IS
AT 100-99%. SO, THEY KNOW THE SNOW MELT WILL OVERWHELM ALL OF
THE LAKES UP TOP IN UH..COUPLE/FEW WEEKS..SO, THEY NEED TO UH,
DUMP AS MUCH HERE AS THEY CAN. IM TELLIN YA. GONNUH BE BHAD.UH
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MEMBUH...THERE'S NO ROOM LEFT UH-BOVE! YA GOT 3 MINS ? EVEN UH
THIS PROPAGANDA WATUH~WHORE VIDEO TELLS THE TRUTH UH-BOUT DA
SITUATION..JOEY.
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Oh look. Our retard is awake.

stfu
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whatever happened to the gold that was discovered
after the dam broke?
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What? They found gold at lake Oroville after the spillway broke? Nah… it all floated down stream and the panning folk found just little flakes. Nothing to write home about. Don’t worry about that.





GLP